Skip to comments.More advice from Joe Biden: 'Just fire the shotgun through the door'
Posted on 02/28/2013 11:14:47 AM PST by neverdem
In an interview with Field & Stream magazine on Monday, Vice President Joe Biden once again touted shotguns as the best weapon for self-defense, offering advice similar to the questionable instructions he gave during a Facebook town hall last week.
During that interview, Biden explained his suggestion to his wife Jill for handling an intruder.
If theres ever a problem, Biden said he told his wife, just walk out on the balcony here walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house.
The problem with Bidens advice is that it would empty the shotgun and possibly get the shooter in trouble with the law.
Undaunted, Biden gave similar advice in his interview with the hunting and fishing magazine.
Field & Stream asked the Vice President whether so-called assault rifles and high-capacity clips, which the administration wants banned, should be allowed for self-defense and target practice.
Well, the way in which we measure it isI think most scholars would sayis that as long as you have a weapon sufficient to be able to provide your self-defense, Biden said. I did one of these town-hall meetings on the Internet and one guy said, Well, what happens when the end days come? What happens when theres the earthquake? I live in California, and I have to protect myself.
I said, Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door. Most people can handle a shotgun a hell of a lot better than they can a semiautomatic weapon in terms of both their aim and in terms of their ability to deter people coming. We can argue whether thats true or not, but it is no argument that, for example, a shotgun could do the same job of protecting you. Now, granted, you can come back and say, Well, a machine gun could do a better job of protecting me. No ones arguing we should make machine guns legal.
“The problem with Bidens advice is that it would empty the shotgun and possibly get the shooter in trouble with the law.”
Yes, but we are dealing with the dumbest VP in American history. Stupidity and ignorance comes natural to him.
Great advice. Now Jill has an empty gun by which to defend herself when the intruder goes after her. Brilliant.
How is it Constitutionally lawfull that an imbecile can be Vice President?
The guy is a certified moron. A shotgun is not a Party Popper, even a 12 ga game load from Wal Mart has more knockdown power at close range than a 9 shot burst from a full auto 223
“even a 12 ga game load from Wal Mart has more knockdown power at close range than a 9 shot burst from a full auto 223 “
Horribly irresponsible advice.
Yeah a deer slug, center mass will do the trick. Plus the muzzle flash will blind them and the noise will deafen them.
Apparently Oscar Pistorius was just using a variation on Biden’s advice....
Liberals and their pet “media” would be having a friggin’ field day if Sarah Palin had said this.
First of all - “machine guns” are legal.
Secondly firing through a door in your home at someone is about as stupid as it gets. No matter who you hit, if anyone, you are probably going to jail. One exception I can think of is if you just retreated from a life threatening danger through that same door, and the threat was pulling a “Shining” style “here’s Johnny.”
“...Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15...”
Hmm...stupidity such as that doesn’t even require a response.
And this moron is a heartbeat away from the _residency.
Then again, how could he be any worse...
Don’t ask a question to which you really don’t want to know the answer...
State law in CA is they have to be through the door, shooting through a door at someone outside on the porch will get you in jail.
walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house.
That will alert the 12 secret service people here to the problem and you will be fine.
Not in every state my friend....but Biden is still a retarded monkey.
12 guage= 3200 lbs/PSI
I believe that the reason why the government is focusing on AR's first is because they know that the AR is a tactical long range combat weapon and they know that they are doing everything to bring on armed rebellion.
So Biden may not be as stupid as it appears
Its like how theives lock their own stuff up tighter than anyone
In a insurrection scenario close combat would be a fatal mistake when outnumbered and outgunned. Traditional combat in the AR range would be most effective, especially against helicopters and drones. And that is where they would take it. Eye contact assault against ones own people could prove a disaster for them. They would need to demonize and surgical bomb isolated groups
I think the government leaders are perplexed that a group has not yet attacked them for their obvious tyrannical activities in violation of the constitution
In their consciences, the leaders know they deserve to be slaughtered, the American people just dont realize it yet. The American population is peaceful, fat and happy so far. And they wont know they are slaves until it is way too late, the propaganda and mind control machine is working very well for the evil leaders.
....until the ATM's run dry and the store shelves go empty everything will be fine. The american dollar is teetering on the brink
Self Defense Instructions to Joe Biden:
Get yourself a double barreled 12 gauge shotgun,
Load it with Double Ought buck shot,
Insert both barrels in mouth,
Last week I purchased a burger at a fast food restaurant for $1.58. The counter girl took
my $ 2 and I was digging for my change when I pulled 8 cents from my pocket and gave it
to her. She stood there, holding the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on
I sensed her discomfort and tried to tell her to just give me two quarters, but she
hailed the manager for help. While he tried to explain the
transaction to her, she stood there and cried.
Why do I tell you this? Because of the evolution in teaching math since the 1950s:
1. Teaching Math In 1950s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the
price. What is his profit?
2. Teaching Math In 1960s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the
price, or $80. What is his profit?
3. Teaching Math In1970s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80. Did he make
4. Teaching Math In 1980s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his
profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
5. Teaching Math In 1990s
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares
nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so
he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living?
Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and
squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no
wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it’s ok. )
6. Teaching Math In 2009
Un hachero vende una carretada de maderapara $100. El costo de la producciones es $80.
Cuanto dinero ha hecho?
7. Teaching Math In 2013
Who cares, just steal the lumber from your rich neighbor’s property. He won’t have a gun
to stop you, and it’s OK anyway cuz it’s redistributing
I hear ya, friend...
Here’s another one:
Can he REALLY be THAT stupid, or is it just a condescending “gee-whiz, down home folksy good ol’ boy” act to make it look like HE has all the common sense, and we’re all just bumpkims suffering from TFS (Too F**ing Stoooopid) Syndrome?
If so, he’s a master actor at it. He pulled the same sh*t during the debate with Paul Ryan - a guy who should have just out and out called him a buffoon and a liar right on the stage.
If we had a working media, this clown would be laughed out of office. Or better yet, never have been elected to any public office.
This guy Biden takes a back-seat to anything uttered by Spiro Agnew....
I don’t mean to be critical or making trouble but what you’re using isn’t accurate. IMO its important to be accurate especially when discussing firearms and self defense.
.223 Remington isn’t Nato, 5.56 is NATA standard round with the main difference being the chamber pressure the rifles can handle. 5.56 NATO ammunition (60k CUP) shouldn’t be used in a rifle chambered for .223 (50k CUP).
Regardless the energy numbers are highly dependent on the ammunition.
The .223 round will have in the neighborhood of 2800 to 3200 fps and 1300 ftlbs at the muuzzle. The 5.56 NATO round will have slightly more, again depending on the specific ammunition being tested. A 12 ga 2 3/4” shell with 00 will have around 1500 ft lbs at 10 yds.
So there isn’t a huge difference in energy between the two calibers at distances encountered in the home. The only real difference is the 12ga fires 8-12 .32 caliber pellets at a time depending on the shell size. Also, since the 5.56/.223 firearm is rifled it has a longer effective range.
“I said, Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door. Most people can handle a shotgun a hell of a lot better than they can a semiautomatic weapon in terms of both their aim and in terms of their ability to deter people coming”
Speak for yourself, Slow Joe.
Some of us are hell on heels.
In MD, somebody has just to just be over the property line and make me ‘feel threatened’.
he was educated by the DHS that shotguns are for shooting down ducks and AR's are for shooting down his drones
..but Crazy Uncle Joe is a protected 'Rat.
Just sayin' . .
“just fire the shotgun through the door.
And kill you neighbor’s visiting drunken brother, who is at the wrong front door.
Buy a Shotgun - Joe Biden Lying (about) AR-15
LOL, but that was being sadistic to those girls by not warning them to expect some serious recoil! If I had to bet, those were magnum loads.
I feel really about about LMAO over that.
I feel really bad about LMAO over that.
My theory is that nobody employed in a tyrannical part of the government could ever go home again.
I’ve never heard one obama worshipper say they also like Biden. They know he’s retarded so they don’t want to talk about him. That convinces me that those who worship obama are just as retarded.
Wayne LaPierre should be all over this. The NRA should make an ad lambasting the irresponsibility and idiocy of Biteme’s so-called advice.
They have one ready here. It't in the right sidebar.
It's called, "Joe Biden on Women's Self Defense."
"I said, 'Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house.'"I won't be surprised if we're sick of seeing it in 2016.
What I had in mind was an ad with a more serious tone that strongly condemns Biden's recommendations as the dangerous and potentially illegal actions they are. Being pointed about the fact that 0bama chose him to be the lead man for the gun control agenda. I would be happy to suffer an overload of it if they would air it nationally and make sure that most of America saw how stupid and dangerous his advice is.