Skip to comments.Should Obama violate the Constitution to protect it?
Posted on 01/26/2013 9:12:19 AM PST by lowbridge
Our government is guided by the U.S. Constitution, the vital document created over 200 years ago that includes founding ideals which protect civil liberties of Americans. With the help of appointed and elected government officials, the United States runs on a set of unchangeable principles and carefully added amendments.
Recently, the debt ceiling debate called into question the Constitution and how the presidents power is demarcated in the original text. The issue lies in whether or not President Obama should bypass Congress and make the executive decision to raise the spending limit.
It is not unprecedented to violate the Constitution deliberately, with good intention. In 1861, Abraham Lincoln used this path when he suspended habeas corpus in an effort to save the country during the civil war. In doing so, President Lincoln was successful in reuniting the government. On Saturday, host Melissa Harris-Perry and her panel discussed when it would be necessary for the Commander-in-Chief to trump the age-old document.
The president needs to get his best legal advice and move forward [without Congress] said Seton Hall University law professor Mark Alexander on Saturdays Melissa Harris-Perry, urging that valuable time is being wasted in Washington debating the debt ceiling issue.
I wonder if the average citizen even realizes such.
(From Internet sources.)
When a man confined at Fort McHenry sued for a writ of habeas corpus Chief Justice Roger Taney ordered the government to show cause why the man should not be released. The Chief Justice was advised that the writ of habeas corpus had been suspended.The federal government we got now? Yes!
Taney issued an attachment -- law Legal seizure of property or a person. The writ ordering such a seizure -- for the commandant of Fort McHenry but the marshals were denied admission to the fort.
Taney then "issued an opinion in the case declaring that the President alone did not have the authority to suspend the writ of habeas corpus-only Congress could do that-and holding that Merryman's [the man at Ft. McHenry] confinement was illegal. The Chief Justice, knowing that he could not enforce his order, sent a copy of it to Lincoln."
Lincoln was not impressed and other victims -- mayors, police chiefs, journalists, everyone -- soon followed.
Lincoln said about writ of habeas corpus: should everything fail because that one law "made in such extreme tenderness of the citizens' liberty that practically it relieves more of the guilty than of the innocent . . . [cannot] to a very limited extent be violated?" You want "the government itself go to pieces?"
Void the bowels of Washington!
Does ANYONE drug test anymore?
Does ANYONE drug test anymore?
This situation definitely requires at least four impeachments.
That person rself is scareally believes what she wrote. That in itself is scary..
Stupid laptop, lets try it again..
It is scary that the person who wrote that silliness really believes it..
ROTFL. I think the paper has been had.
Obama’s emergency is the ticking clock.
The MSNBC retard assumes the Constitution needs saving. It doesn’t. It is just fine. It’s we the people who need to reign in government. We need saving from a tyrannical government.
Right. Who needs messy give and take of debate to reach a consensus conclusion. What we need is a communist dictator to make things run efficiently without all that horrid discussion.
The number of commies coming out the past few years saying cancel elections, no term limits for Pres, Constitution is outdated, bypass the Electoral College, confiscate all guns, etc is very scary. It all adds up to totalitarianism.
Our dictator is very proud.
Yes, Obama can save the Union by causing a civil war, just like America’s Hitler.
No, but it WAS/IS illegal!
Who was brave enough to watch MSLSD long enough to glean this piece of swill? Eww.
I used to not question that the USA and its Constitution had survived the Civil War because that is essentially what we are taught to assume in school. But some patriots like me who study the Constitution and its history now regard the original USA as having collapsed as a consequence of the Civil War, the original Constitution made worth no more than the paper that it was drafted on; so much for the Constitution’s “insure domestic Tranquility” clause.
And since war is hell, the winning side, the North, got not only one of the traditional spoils of winning a war, the “license” to rewrite history to make themselves hero, but in the case of winning the US Civil War the license to also rewrite the Constitution which I personally call Constitution II. The arguably unconstitutional rewriting of the Constitution by the North is evidenced not only by Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus, but also by the questionable ratification of the 14th Amendment which has remained controversial to this day.
But in broader perspective, the Civil War and the post Civil War rewriting of the Constitution by the North is arguably the turning point where the federal government had finally managed to do what the Founders had dreaded, the federal government having worked itself free from the shackles of it’s constitutionally limited powers, positioning itself to eventually destroy state sovereignty.
Sadly, generations of patriots have arguably been living their lives in the confusion of the ongoing post Civil War cold war without knowing it, Constitution-ignorant patriots oblivious to the idea that the federal government continues to ignore its constitutionally limited powers, usurping 10th Amendment protected state powers every opportunity that it gets.
I’ve a feeling you, like I, already pretty much do what you want. Wwithin reason.
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