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Who else just got notified by management about the 2% payroll tax increase?
Supervisor | 4 January 2013

Posted on 01/04/2013 8:40:47 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Our supervisor just notified us that the accountant will be placing a 2% increase in payroll tax on our checks per the "Fiscal Cliff" bill. They lied to the American people and taxed everyone more. Where's the media on this? Liars, liars, liars, liars, liars. Oh, so what! The people who voted that party into office doesn't pay taxes anyway.

TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; democrats; lies; taxes; vanity
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

This 2% SS tax cut was passed because you can’t give a income tax cut to those that don’t pay income tax anyway.

51 posted on 01/04/2013 9:23:51 AM PST by Starstruck (Washinton has now built a diving board on the fiscal cliff)
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To: Shery


According to every liberal I know, SS is fully funded and solvent til 2024....

Shame more of them don’t have jobs so they could see for themselves....

52 posted on 01/04/2013 9:24:21 AM PST by LadyBuck (I've read so much about the evils of drinking & smoking that I've given up reading.)
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To: MrB

I agree, and the blow to social security was much worse than the mere 2% reported by the brainfart media.

53 posted on 01/04/2013 9:24:29 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I was notified on the 2nd, but at least my company prefaced it with a bonus I was due on the 1st of the year that was coming to me and I was already aware of before lowering the boom......

54 posted on 01/04/2013 9:24:48 AM PST by The Mediterranean Right-Wing
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To: csmusaret

It’s [almost as if] he wanted SS to go bankrupt sooner.

55 posted on 01/04/2013 9:26:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ataDude
Geez... are you news-starved or what? That’s been talked about on at least FNC for the last week... continuously.

Nah. Just felt like posting it. Actually, I'm very self-disciplined, which actually does have to do with the comment you made. Think about it and one of these days you'll get it.

56 posted on 01/04/2013 9:29:19 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Aww come on now everyone. At least we have this: Our fearless leader gets to have a very nice vacation. We should all feel good.

57 posted on 01/04/2013 9:31:09 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Uncle Chip

Only if they reduced the benefit the federal retirees at the same time — since taxpayers are on the hook for those benefits.

58 posted on 01/04/2013 9:33:09 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: cripplecreek
Some funny stuff including a few desperate liberals.

Not many happy campers at twitter. I bet they will think twice next time.

59 posted on 01/04/2013 9:33:52 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Sorry, but I get it now. The 2% SSI tax reduction was a dumb idea when conceived and implemented and I, for one, am personally glad it’s gone.

60 posted on 01/04/2013 9:36:00 AM PST by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Your latest vanity only provides additional confirmation of what many of us have known about you since November of 1998.

61 posted on 01/04/2013 9:36:53 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

My taxes increased $1,820. Thanks a lot congress!!!

62 posted on 01/04/2013 9:37:05 AM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Do I have any of this wrong? Thanks.

Yes, you have it wrong. Except for the self-employed and those who overpaid SS taxes because of switching jobs, the tax return due in April has nothing to do with SS taxes. It is taken directly out of your paycheck and never has to be reported on a return or used to calculate the refund or amount owed.

Consumers got a temporary stimulus from lowered withholding but still owe the same in taxes.

No, taxes were actually lowered. Since I fill out forms as if I'm self employed (partner at a company not subject to withholding), I paid 4.2% for my "employee" half of the self employment tax and 6.2% for my "employer" half (along with 1.45% + 1.45% for Medicare). Before 2011 it was 6.2% + 6.2% + 1.45% + 1.45%.

63 posted on 01/04/2013 9:39:28 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: LadyBuck

Ours got cancelled........

64 posted on 01/04/2013 9:41:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Noamie
Like that money was/is really going into a "locked box" with the letters SSI on it???
65 posted on 01/04/2013 9:43:53 AM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Starstruck

Rich Lowry wrote about this five years ago.

Rebates for Non-Taxpayers?
By Rich Lowry
January 25, 2008 12:00 A.M.

Should non-taxpayers get a tax rebate? That had been the revealing sticking point in the Washington debate over an economic stimulus package.

Democrats insisted on spreading the rebate to people who don’t pay the federal income tax for a simple reason — there are so many of them. A literal rebate in the sense of giving back a bit of what people pay in federal income taxes was objectionable because it would exclude the 40 percent of households that pay none at all.

That fact is worth noting because it puts the lie to the notion that the federal tax code is a vampirish scheme by Republican economic elites to privilege the rich at the expense of the poor. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards can barely say the word “taxes” without retailing some version of this tale, which is detached from reality and has been getting steadily more so.

66 posted on 01/04/2013 9:46:56 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KarlInOhio

OK, thanks.

67 posted on 01/04/2013 9:49:30 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: KarlInOhio

Oh, trust me. I’ll be happy to inform them of their mistake.

68 posted on 01/04/2013 9:59:59 AM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: Osage Orange

Apologies, I mean “keeping the current recipients solvent.”

I didn’t mean to infer that anyone in the future will ever see their money.

69 posted on 01/04/2013 10:23:11 AM PST by Noamie
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To: Lou L
Lou L said: "Did you correct your supervisor and tell them the increase had nothing to do with the “Fiscal Cliff” bill?"

Whose definition of "Fiscal Cliff" have you been using?

My own definition included any tax rate or spending control which was going to happen on or around January 1.

Even the national debt ceiling issue coming up is included in my definition.

I would agree that the media shares your definition and I think the reason is that they didn't want to draw attention to what is happening now to wage earner's paychecks. The wailing over this has only just begun. I look forward to Obama explaining to his base that this reduction in their pay was not part of the "Fiscal Cliff" so there was no reason for him to insist on extending the reduction of the payroll tax. Even liberals aren't stupid enough not to notice that their taxes have gone up.

70 posted on 01/04/2013 10:26:29 AM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell
I was simply responding to the original poster who said:

Our supervisor just notified us that the accountant will be placing a 2% increase in payroll tax on our checks per the "Fiscal Cliff" bill.

To me, the "Fiscal Cliff" was the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, which would slam all income-earners. This "cliff" would be exacerbated by other events that would not necessarily be tied to those tax cuts; e.g., the imposition of new Obamacare taxes, and the expiration of the reduced Social Security rate. The elimination of this last item is what employers are talking about, and what wage-earners are seeing today, at least those receiving weekly checks.

Don't get me wrong, we've been teetering on a "fiscal cliff" for some time now, for all the reasons you mention. Some things we'll feel right away, others will take longer.

71 posted on 01/04/2013 10:42:23 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Noamie

Last year they raised the minimum wage in Santa Fe to over $10 and in Albuquerque to $8.50. Here in Rio Rancho it is still $7.50 and with our recently elected conservative city councilors it isn’t likely to change, fortunately.

72 posted on 01/04/2013 11:06:14 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Crusher138

The employer’s matching tax for SS was never dropped, so it shouldn’t “go back up”. The only increase will be that the cutoff will go up a bit for 2013, in line with inflation.

Since you are an employer, you should have known that, since you have been paying the 6.2% employer SS tax for the past two years, not the 4.2% employee SS tax.

73 posted on 01/04/2013 11:16:42 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Obama originally cut the payroll tax to compete with Bush.

Bush once gave everyone back a lump sum rebate about this amount in the mail.

Obama couldn't bring himself to cut rates so he cut the payroll tax (SS) which was stupid because everyone knows they would have to go back up later.

Just about everything Obama does is DUMB.

74 posted on 01/04/2013 11:26:54 AM PST by what's up
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I use a payroll service and am only passing on what was told to me. I will be the first one to dance a happy kazatski if it turns out to be an overstatement. The paperwork for the first payroll of 2013 will come through later today or Monday.

75 posted on 01/04/2013 12:40:10 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Nothing official from HR in HQ yet (1st paycheck of 2013 is 1/15), but the local HR made the rounds today telling us about it. Most of us already knew. If they do start exempting the first 25K there’s another incentive to cut back to part time work. Going Galt(ish) looks better every day.

76 posted on 01/04/2013 10:26:01 PM PST by TropicanaRose
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Nobody lied. The reduction in withholding was TEMPORARY, and everybody knew (or should have known) that it would expire unless action was taken to extend it. It should have risen last year instead of running another year so people could get used to it.

We were notified on the agency website, but no specific emails or anything.

77 posted on 01/05/2013 11:49:58 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (2 Corinthians 4:8)
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To: SandyInSeattle

No prob. — I’m sure we’ll find some other stuff later on.

78 posted on 01/05/2013 4:32:25 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MomwithHope
People need to look closely at their pay stubs.

This is why leftists created withholding many years ago. most don't look.especially with electronic banking.

79 posted on 01/11/2013 11:42:00 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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