Skip to comments.Nancy Lanza feared son, Adam, was ‘getting worse’; ‘he was burning himself with a lighter’
Posted on 12/16/2012 12:53:37 PM PST by jimbo123
Less than a week before her son would launch his horrifying attack on Sandy Hook Elementary School, gun-loving mom Nancy Lanza knew "she was losing him" and that "he was getting worse."
Adam, who the coroner's office said Sunday shot Nancy Lanza, 54, several times in the head before unleashing a nightmarish attack that killed 20 schoolchildren and six others Friday, was prone to hurting himself, the drinking buddy said.
"Nancy told me he was burning himself with a lighter. In the ankles or arms or something," he recalled of a conversation they had about a year ago. "It was like he was trying to feel something."
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“Snake Pit” with Olivia de Haviland, comes to mind. A great, but disturbing movie. Alot of those old movies revolved around characters in the insane asylum.
I remember one with Bette Davis but can’t remember the title. I’m kinda old. ;-)
You’re totally and absolute correct about what deadly weapons are. I served in the Army. I was special ops. I witnessed a violent crime one day. intervened and rescued a woman from her husband trying to kill her. I subdued the guy using military techniques. The guy got an attorney, need I say more, and sued me for causing physical damage to the moron. The attorney claimed I was a ‘lethal weapon’ and the idiots in the jury convicted me of using excessive force/. I didn’t do any jail time for saving his wife’s life but it cost me a ton of money. From that day on, I told myself, I will not get involved in any type of situation, no matter what.
The “Baby Jane” one? Betty played a loon in that one, but she wasn’t in the nut house. Another great movie.
Thanks for outstanding and very thoughtful addition to the conversation. You know whereof you speak. Amen.
“Adam, he [uncle Jonathan Lanza] said, was taking the anti-psychotic drug, Fanapt, but had never showed any violent tendencies.”
First report I’ve seen indicating this kid was on psych meds. Fanapt is used to treat schizophrenia.
I am not surprised.
side effects of this drug Fanapt.
Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.
Fanapt? Never heard of that one. Anything like Abiulfy, Risperdol, Selexa, Seroquel, or Welbutrin?
Adam, he [uncle Jonathan Lanza] said, was taking the anti-psychotic drug, Fanapt, but had never showed any violent tendencies.
This is a good find. Fanapt causes weight gain. There is a pic of Adam Lanza circulating around that shows a much heavier individual than his school pictures. This would explain the discrepancy in his weight.
Thanks for posting that info.
DeNiro's Taxi Driver character, Travis Bickle, used to hold his hand over a flame to test his endurance. First thing that came to mind when I read the headline.
I see they are smearing the mother now .
Figures , she was left dealing with the son after her
Husband bailed .
Kid had no contact with his Dad .
Causing the kids mental / schizo paranoid situation to progress rapidly .
If liberals had a permmissive enviornment for deeming people mentally ill and institutionalizing them, it would be another tool they could use like the Soviets or Chi-coms.
Liberals are psychopaths.
I don’t know much about psych meds; the Wiki page for it says it just got FDA approval in 2009, so it’s pretty new.
He was reportedly taking Fanapt - side effects include wanting to hurt yourself and suicidal thoughts.
She was reportedly a “prepper”. I think that’s why she had the guns.
The government has centralized power over life and death now with deathcare. Liberals have said they will kill people based on an economic formula deeming the value of their lives. Marxism has no sense of justice, no limits on it’s power and no ethics and morals. Everything is political and the means justifies the ends.
The communists are known for putting political refusniks in “mental institutions” where they are systematically brainwashed and often murdered. The Soviets, were famous for it. Communists all agree in social and economic policy because they will torture and kill you if you disagee with them.
Our liberals would hesitate to name political incorrectness violent and dangerous; mental illness. They have already tried to ban Christians from speaking out on sodomy saying that the speech/ideas that the behavior and lifestyle is not the best for people, are “violent.” They have done it with many issues and they reject religious freedom and free speech.
If liberals had the power, they would re-create the Soviet Union. Soviet Marxism is the social ideology and basis of their Utopia. The CEO of GE has come out and said he wants to replace our system of government with a communist one like the Chi-coms. He said it’s more efficient. Alot of America’s “liberals” in power are on that bandwagon. They would murder you just as soon as look at you. Humans are like roaches infesting their enviornment. They are disgusted by human life.
You've got to be kidding me.
Geez, the side effects are also symptoms associated with schizophrenia, which begs the questions; why give a medication whose side effects mimic the diseases or how do they know those are side effects of the medication and not symptoms of worsening schizophrenia and the medication is ineffective?
Pharmaceutical Psychiatry is just high tech chemical shamanism.
Schizophrenia tends to manifest itself around age 18-20 and it can often come on quite suddenly. There was a case locally where a 17 year old cut up his grandfather with an axe, just a couple weeks after his parents started to notice changes in his behavior.
That's a little more than odd.
WHy would an anarchist want to feel something?
>> (this couple got divorced in 2009
Thought it was around 2006. Nonetheless, I’m wondering what the deal is with “daddy”.
Or are people speculating that he had that condition based on this barfly’s analysis.
Burning oneself sounds like a variation on ‘cutting’, which people do to lessen psychic pain.
Sounds like that crazy Joe Davola.
The young man was burning himself (if true. not too sure I believe of all these second hand stories about how mentally ill the son was since many speaking out hardly even knew him personally). He qualified for a full evaluation because he was harming himself. If you really want if you are desperate and lie and say threatened to kill himself so they can get some treatment.
And THAT is a crying shame!
The government condones removing the father, and with it, any semblence of boundaries and structure--equating it all as "abuse." The mom is free to treat Junior like the little "man of the house" which in itself is abusive. Mom gives the child what I call A.S.S. (adult spousal status) allowing him to call the shots in the home. She assassinates dad's character in front of Junior, creating massive loyalty conflicts ("if you love mommy you'll hate your dad"). When Junior, who is now confused, extremely angry and hateful, gets physically too strong to handle, she puts him on mind bending meds.
When dad finally gives up in sheer hopelessness, having spent tens of thousands in legal fees just to preserve his basic parental rights, and decides to move on, mom gets further enraged:
see my post #130
See my post #130
For every story of woe you can give me for a man I can give you two for a woman.
Most "single moms" don't have the "dad gene" aka the ability to put their boot up their kids backside. They'd rather be lenient and molly coddle them; especially if it means going against dad's wishes.
Not in this case .
The guy took off and got remarried within just over a year .
She was left alone to deal with the messy kid and even the other son ran off .
That is what happens in situations with a mentally ill kid who is dangerous and very hostile .
Everyone gets burned out and flee once they see a chance .
Dad had not seen the kid in over a year ! He ran which is normal with
Schizoid child .
They are never ending drain .
My on laws / relative has one but she is very
Stable and takes her meds because her Dad and mom
Are very strict and loving .
We watch her so they can vacation every few months .
You don’t think this lady needed a vacation from this kid but
There was no one to watch him !
I don’t doubt anything in your post. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
I just happened to watch an old “Criminal Minds” episode over the weekend. It was from 2011, but was eerily similar to this recent shooting, with the bad guy (”unsub”) not feeling pain. also the outcast, loner, etc. I was thinking “if a dumb TV show can profile these guys, too bad we can’t do it in real life and get them help”:
Back at police HQ, the team presents its theory to the team: the original killer had a silent partner, someone so inconsequential in the high-school social scene that he would have never stood out. “This unsub was the outcast that the outcasts rejected,” Reid explains....
Later that night, the team finds Jerry has been beaten to death in the high school hallway. “This unsub doesn’t feel pain,” Reid theorizes, noting that the mystery man punched through a glass display case BEFORE savagely beating Jerry.
Hotch theorizes that the unsub never developed a sense of empathy because he has never felt pain. [Reid then explained some medical condition]...
So the unsub, already an outcast in high school, is super angry that he survived only to be shunned again...
CUT to the restaurant, where a bomb EXPLODES. Sure enough, Robert soon emerges to confront the special survivor clique that has gathered for a dinner.... Moments later, Emily, Hotch and Derek enter the restaurant to find Robert holding a gun to a woman’s head. “Before tonight, they didn’t know my name!” Robert rages....