Skip to comments.George Will: “Opposition to Gay Marriage is Dying—It’s Old People”
Posted on 12/10/2012 5:39:44 PM PST by Olog-hai
Syndicated columnist George Will, appearing Sunday on ABCs This Week, said opposition to same-sex marriage is quite literally dying, because opponents tend to be older Americans.
There is something like an emerging consensus. Quite literally, the opposition to gay marriage is dying. Its old people, Will said.
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(What college, incidentally?)
Sorry, I'd rather not say.
He’s right. Outside of weekly churchgoers, you’re going to struggle to find anyone under the age of 40 who doesn’t either support gay marriage, or regard it as insufficiently bothersome to merit opposition. Frankly there are plenty of weekly churchgoers who are in the same position: they have gay friends, family, co-workers, etc. — it’s just not something that offends them personally even if they acknowledge that religious orthodoxy might invoke their opposition.
And this is to say nothing of the fact that conspicuous opposition to gay marriage has, in many social and professional circles, become simply regarded as bigotry: an opinion entirely beyond the pale. While some people rebel against those kind of strictures, human nature leads most people to adopt — ideologies which are not permitted to be questioned become, for the most part, unquestionable.
In any event, there’s a very good chance that the Supreme Court ends this within the next six months. 40 years of fervent pro-life campaigning hasn’t laid a finger on Roe and my guess is that nobody even bothers with a movement against gay marriage once the Supremes have legalized it nationally.
“Everything else tells us government shouldnt be in the business.”
Not really. Rights of succession, inheritance, power of attorney, child custody, visitation, and support, even testimony in courts of law legitimately affect the state in the area of marriage. Society can’t function without legitimate marriage.
Government has an obligation to its youngest citizens, minor children to protect them from such known hazards as abuse and neglect, and being raised for faggot fodder.
“Marriage is a spiritual act, I agree the government has no business having anything to do with it.”
Marriage is spiritual but also civil and societal.
It transcends categories. It is the basic building block of human society.
You trying to say that the vast numbers of blacks that voted for Obama are pro-gay-marriage . . . ? or the Hispanics and Asians?
I think I can tell the difference between stating fact and propagandizing for the other side. And blatant ageism is in Will’s statements, which is not only of a leftist source but reveals the man’s own thoughts rather than a continued support of conservatism as a conviction.
Oh wow. Personal attack.
Yeah, you are in league with them, because you don’t see marriage as an essential part of civic society. You see marriage as a contract between two individuals.
but so be it....
there are consequences when there are no rules, no traditions, no sacred rites, no established patterns, no morals, no ethics, no common sense, no fear of God....
for those people, may all your dreams come true...because they will, and you will hate that day...
Even Lenin said “Destroy the family and you destroy society”, outlining how leftists would chip away at a strong society. Part of the family is marriage between one man and one woman. It certainly is not a mere “contract”. The Founding Fathers were adamant that religion and private morality (which the family cannot be extricated from) were the pillars upon which the USA had to stand, and without them it would fall.
Civilization is dying.
I did not change the subject at all. But by all means, do the liberal run-away thingy.
Jesus criticized the religious scholars of his day for not being able to recognize the signs of the times, even though they were written down in their law. If civilization is starting to die, that is a very big sign of something biblical impending.
Your posts to me in this thread have not been exactly civil. I cannot recall reading a more egregious post than #87, so obviously trolling for a volatile response. So spare me your feigned offense.
At least *this* post of yours doesn't seem offensive - probably because your reasoning escapes me. I just don't quite follow the link from "being in league with Islamists" to "don't see traditional marriage as essential...." Care to connect those nonsensical dots?
As a matter of fact, I DO see traditional marriage as an essential part of American (and more generally, Western Judeo-Christian) society. What's more, I didn't even mention it in this thread. I didn't deride traditional marriage and certainly didn't speak up in favor of gay "marriage". But, since you allege otherwise, I challenge you to find and cite this comment of mine which supposedly minimizes marriage to the point of a "contract between two individuals". Take your time, dig though my old posts.
I'll check back tomorrow. Be thorough, now.
I guess that is why it has only been voted in by the popular vote in one state I think Hawaii
and been voted out in over half the states
man...with GOP establishment who needs Democrats
I don’t know how old you are but 25 year olds change a lot
or they should
I sure as hell did
Anyone who lives anywhere near concentrations of youth knows that youth is far more leftist than boomer parents, boomers or Xers
to think otherwise is absolute nuts
and said poster is so daft as not to realize that all that 50s/60s/70s crap we all deride...well most us anyhow, some here applaud 60s race legislation...was foisted on us by boomers parents and grandparents in their electoral prime
has doofuss ever even looked at how youth under 30 voted in 1972 for Nixon(52-54%) versus McGovern juxtaposed by how youth vote today for Obama(66-68%)...
today's youth are far more liberal...brainwashed by the culture and education
Charles...you merit your nick very well sir...far better than said poster's service to the inestimable antebellum Senator from Kentucky
Right or wrong? Good or bad? As long as most people support it, it must be OK.
There’s also “true or false”. I see a lot of governmental support, and the media is so distorted that I can’t really see just how strong or weak the popular support might be. Will’s ageism is simply not a conservative tenetthat is the weapon of leftists and leftists alone, and I see absolutely no basis in fact, even among Obama’s voters (unless someone can definitively prove that a majority of blacks, Hispanics and Catholics actually support this abomination when everything I hear from those segments of society is to the contrary no matter what age group).
“It was a younger generation in Sodom and Gomorrah that decided homosexuality was the only way. And we know that ended badly”
Nowadays the old ways are just trivialized into myths by our media; the existence of Sodom and Gomorrah is questioned (as is Christ Himself) by atheist scholars on the “intelligent” channels (History Channel, for example). I used to be a big fan, though now I never watch it because nothing on it is true. We’re in the season (Easter is another one) where we’ll be bombarded with scholars questioning the birth of Christ and what that meant.
“Ultimately, it is a social contract, when society is ready, it will happen.”
It is a legal contract; that is why “marriage” itself is disappearing for American men while it flourishes with mental patients “playing normal”. Anyone who knows what the freaks do to each other opposes everything about them; they are plainly sick.
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