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NYT: Obama admin approved secret weapons deals that ended up arming Islamists in Libya
Hotair ^ | 12/06/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/06/2012 10:49:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Oopsie! In what has to be one of the least-shocking outcomes of Barack Obama's Libyan adventure, the New York Times reports that his administration secretly gave approval of weapons shipments to Libyan resistance fighters, only to learn that the weapons ended up arming Islamist terror networks. Who could have seen that coming, right?

The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.

No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September.

But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.

Maybe we can offer an alternative headline for this: Reporting that might have been valuable before the election. Tammy Bruce tweeted:

A month after the election the NYT tells us: “U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadis’ Hands” nytimes.com/2012/12/06/wor…

— Tammy Bruce (@HeyTammyBruce) December 6, 2012

This is yet another indictment of the Obama approach to decapitating regimes. In the immediate aftermath of the fall of Qaddafi, the administration didn’t hesitate to favorably compare the outcome in Libya to that in Iraq, where hundreds of thousands of American troops were used to secure the gains after the fall of Saddam Hussein. The NYT provides a post-mortem on that strategy courtesy of a former State Department adviser on the region:

The Qatari assistance to fighters viewed as hostile by the United States demonstrates the Obama administration’s continuing struggles in dealing with the Arab Spring uprisings, as it tries to support popular protest movements while avoiding American military entanglements. Relying on surrogates allows the United States to keep its fingerprints off operations, but also means they may play out in ways that conflict with American interests.

“To do this right, you have to have on-the-ground intelligence and you have to have experience,” said Vali Nasr, a former State Department adviser who is now dean of the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, part of Johns Hopkins University. “If you rely on a country that doesn’t have those things, you are really flying blind. When you have an intermediary, you are going to lose control.”

And when you don’t have any way to control what happens on the ground, you can bet that “control” will be the first thing to go. The US knew that Islamist terrorists operated in eastern Libya for years before Obama came into office. Al-Qaeda recruited heavily in the region for its fight against the US in Iraq. Decapitating Qaddafi meant losing pressure on AQ and other Islamist terror networks, and flooding the area with uncontrolled weapons almost guaranteed that the already-organized terror networks would hijack them from other less-organized resistance movements.

But this brings up another important question. The Obama administration knew that the Islamist terror networks ended up controlling many if not most of these weapons, and had become much more dangerous as a result. If that’s the case, how could they possibly have left the consulate in Benghazi as unprotected as it was?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2012; benghazi; bhoislamism; democrats; islam; jihad; libya; obama; terrorism; waronterror; wot

1 posted on 12/06/2012 10:49:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: MestaMachine

Ping.


2 posted on 12/06/2012 10:51:47 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

And having armed Al Qaeda in Libya to successfully depose Gadhaffi, they then rounded up the arms in Benghazi and shipped them to Al Qaeda in Syria to depose Assad!

What could possibly go wrong?


3 posted on 12/06/2012 10:54:06 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was intentional.


4 posted on 12/06/2012 10:54:28 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

Very interesting.

And why would the NYT suddenly drop this little bombshell on their boy Barry?

Warning shot that he’d better toe the line on Socialism a whole lot better in his second term? Or an implied threat if dead-tree media does not receive a financial bailout?


5 posted on 12/06/2012 10:54:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/was-ambassador-stevens-running-guns-to-the-jihadist-rebels-who-murdered-him.html

Was Ambassador Stevens running guns to the jihadist rebels who murdered him?


6 posted on 12/06/2012 10:57:13 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind
In case you missed it.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

7 posted on 12/06/2012 11:00:37 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassador’s Benghazi visit?

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/25/was-syrian-weapons-shipment-factor-in-ambassadors-benghazi-visit/#ixzz2EIdfiG3g

A mysterious Libyan ship — reportedly carrying weapons and bound for Syrian rebels — may have some link to the Sept. 11 terror attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Fox News has learned.

Through shipping records, Fox News has confirmed that the Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means “The Victory,” was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun — 35 miles from the Syrian border — on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed during an extended assault by more than 100 Islamist militants.

On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/25/was-syrian-weapons-shipment-factor-in-ambassadors-benghazi-visit/#ixzz2EIdbHwuF


8 posted on 12/06/2012 11:00:52 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: MestaMachine

“This is the Libyan ship ... which is basically carrying weapons that are found in Libya,” said Walid Phares, a Fox News Middle East and terrorism analyst. “So the ship came all the way up to Iskenderun in Turkey. Now from the information that is available, there was aid material, but there were also weapons, a lot of weapons.”

The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG’s and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/25/was-syrian-weapons-shipment-factor-in-ambassadors-benghazi-visit/#ixzz2EIdxlrNG


9 posted on 12/06/2012 11:02:14 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: MestaMachine
Syrian rebel army got surface-air missile, threat to Assad increases

Aug 1, Damascus: Free Syrian Army rebels fighting the Assad regime obtained nearly two dozen man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS), NBC News reported on Tuesday night. The missiles were delivered to them via neighboring Turkey, whose moderate Islamist government has been demanding Assad’s departure with increasing vehemence.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 11:04:21 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: MestaMachine

Syrian Rebels Claim They Shot Down Fighter Jet With A Missile

November 28, 2012 3:00 PM

Syrian rebels claim they shot down a MiG fighter jet not far from the Syrian-Turkish border on Wednesday. Along with the downing of a military helicopter on Tuesday, it would appear to be one of the first times rebels have successfully used a kind of weapon called a MANPAD, or portable, shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missile that can hit a plane in fight.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/11/28/166093048/syrian-rebels-claim-they-shot-down-fighter-jet-with-a-missile

Then another video was released, this one showing a bearded man in a heavy coat and sunglasses describing how he shot down the plane with a rocket that’s resting on his shoulder. He calls it an “Igla,” which is the Russian name for an SA-16 or an SA-18.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 11:05:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: SeekAndFind
So. When do we think we might actually have an impeachable offense here? They tried everything they could to impeach Ronald Reagan over Iran-Contra (the covert movement of arms to Iranians and the Nicaraguan rebels) and they almost impeached Nixon over a coverup of covert activities by his reelection campaign.

So, what does "president" Barry have to do, kill somebody? No, wait Ted Kennedy did that and nothing happened to him.

12 posted on 12/06/2012 11:06:12 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The fighter says the rebels seized the weapon when they overtook a Syrian army base earlier this month. Rebels have seized similar weapons before but this is the first time they appear to have used this particular system successfully.


13 posted on 12/06/2012 11:06:50 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Benghazi Barry...what a tactician!


14 posted on 12/06/2012 11:07:49 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t suppose the American public, its collective head up its collective a$$, will realize how wrong it was to reelect the marxist-middle-eastern-cultist?

I don’t suppose the Republicans will start impeachment proceedings any time soon?

I don’t suppose the networks will run crawlers 24/7 “Obama committed treason. American public duped.”

Nah.


15 posted on 12/06/2012 11:08:29 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Uncle Miltie

And these don’t include the OTHER weapons filtered through Turkey that made their way to hamas in Gaza through Egypt.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 11:08:29 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

Lebanon halts ship with arms ‘destined for Syria’

Latest update: 29/04/2012

The Lebanese navy on Saturday intercepted a ship sailing from Libya with weapons believed to be destined for Syrian rebel forces, security officials said. The cargo included machineguns, artillery shells and rocket launchers.

Labelling on one box said it contained fragmentation explosives, and several identified them as coming from Libya.

One was marked “Tripoli/Benghazi SPLAJ”, referring to LIbya’s formal name during the 42-year rule of Muammar Gaddafi - the Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.

Another was stamped Misrata, the Libyan town which formed a base for rebels who overthrew Gaddafi last year in one of several uprising which swept the Arab world.

http://www.france24.com/en/20120428-lebanon-intercepts-libyan-arms-ship-headed-syrian-rebels-weapons-navy-assad


17 posted on 12/06/2012 11:10:14 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: MestaMachine

Front-line Syrian rebel group linked to al Qaeda, U.S. believes

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12/02/4454648/front-line-syrian-rebel-group.html#storylink=cpy

Posted Sunday, Dec. 02, 2012

QALAT AL MUDIQ, Syria — When the group Jabhat al-Nusra claimed responsibility for car and suicide bombings in Damascus that killed dozens of people in January, many of Syria’s revolutionaries said the organization was a creation of the Syrian government, designed to discredit those who opposed the regime of President Bashar Assad.

Nearly a year later, however, Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaeda, has become essential to the front-line operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12/02/4454648/front-line-syrian-rebel-group.html#storylink=cpy


18 posted on 12/06/2012 11:12:31 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Not only does the group still conduct suicide bombings that have killed hundreds, but it also has proven to be critical to the rebels’ military advance. In battle after battle across the country, Nusra and similar groups do the heaviest front-line fighting. Groups that call themselves the Free Syrian Army and report to military councils led by defected Syrian army officers move into the captured territory afterward.

The prominence of Nusra in the rebel cause worries U.S. and other Western officials, who say its operations rely on the same people and tactics that fueled al Qaeda in Iraq — an assertion that is borne out by interviews with Nusra members in Syria.

Among Nusra fighters are many Syrians who say they fought with al Qaeda in Iraq, which waged a violent campaign against the U.S. presence in that country and is blamed for suicide and car bombings that have killed hundreds of Iraqis since the U.S. troops left a year ago.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12/02/4454648/front-line-syrian-rebel-group.html#storylink=cpy


19 posted on 12/06/2012 11:14:41 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I presume these were the weapons the administration repeatedly claimed we weren’t shipping?


20 posted on 12/06/2012 11:23:28 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: I want the USA back

Why would the House waste it’s time with the Current Senate lineup?


21 posted on 12/06/2012 11:27:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the guy who said:
“I will side with the muslims in any conflict”.
Since it is not a religion, but a violent world-domination movement cleverly disguised as a religion, this man is a traitor.


22 posted on 12/06/2012 11:27:00 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Buckeye McFrog

>> And why would the NYT suddenly drop this little bombshell on their boy Barry?

If “suddenly” normally takes about a month or two, then you have a good question there.


23 posted on 12/06/2012 11:30:11 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Uncle Miltie; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; onyx; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; BOBTHENAILER; NormsRevenge; ..

Thanks for the info,....disturbing for sure....but no surprise.


24 posted on 12/06/2012 11:31:12 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Gene Eric

I agree. What I meant to say is, interesting timing.


25 posted on 12/06/2012 11:32:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I know — just having fun at the expense of the NYT.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 11:35:32 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: All
One more time:

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David Horowitz (Author)

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27 posted on 12/06/2012 11:35:35 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: SeekAndFind

Fast and Furious Middle East edition.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 11:47:38 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Impeach Obama and get Johnny Eisl...I mean, Joe Biden.


29 posted on 12/06/2012 11:58:08 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Chainmail
You have to have a law before it can be enforced. You have to have people willing to enforce the law before a criminal gets punished. Obviously this nation has gone lawless for those at the top.
30 posted on 12/06/2012 12:02:06 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes: The only surprise is that the New York Times is printing the story.

Gives one some thought.


31 posted on 12/06/2012 12:03:19 PM PST by Venturer
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To: I want the USA back

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting if I were you.


32 posted on 12/06/2012 12:05:45 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"By the age of 14, (Ayman) al-Zawahiri had joined the Muslim Brotherhood. The following year the Egyptian government executed Qutb for conspiracy, and al-Zawahiri, along with four other secondary school students, helped form an "underground cell devoted to overthrowing the government and establishing an Islamist state." It was at this early age that al-Zawahiri developed a mission in life, "to put Qutb's vision into action."[20] His cell eventually merged with others to form al-Jihad or Egyptian Islamic Jihad.[14]"

al-Zawahiri is the "current leader of the militant Islamist organization al-Qaeda."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Zawahiri

So far, 0bambi has helped Al Qaeda's font, The Muslim Brotherhood take Egypt.

0bambi helped arm Al Qaeda in Libya (with the Qataris) to overthrow Ghaddafi. Who will win that state is currently being contested.

Finally, 0bambi is apparently arming Al Qaeda in Syria with arms from Libya, and Benghazi is a cover up of that operation.

So, in each country so far, Egypt, Libya, and Syria, 0bambi is on the side of Al Qaeda.

33 posted on 12/06/2012 12:32:10 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting in light of the UN Arms Treaty that was almost pushed on us. So, the states trying to disarm their citizens are running small arms and perhaps more. Hmmmmm.....


34 posted on 12/06/2012 12:35:18 PM PST by 556x45
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To: 556x45

Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along.


35 posted on 12/06/2012 12:46:17 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow. In the New York Times. That means there’s misdirection going on. Notice how the Times article keeps referring to Qatar. It was Qatar that was bombing Libya. Oh, no, that was us.
I think this article shows that the Democrats are afraid that this is going to blow open on them. They’re trying to put out pre-emptive excuses.
Why did Obama and Hillary feel the need to overthrow the government in Libya? And isn’t it convenient that Gadaffi died. He can’t tell anybody if him and Soros were arguing about Gadaffi’s cut in those new Libyan oil fields.

The Middle East. Oil. Soros. Obama. Hillary.


36 posted on 12/06/2012 1:10:28 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Uncle Miltie

Thank you. This is as close to “aid and comfort to the enemy” as it gets. Sadly, it will be a cold day in hell before a Republican in the Senate has the guts to let those words pass his lips.


37 posted on 12/06/2012 1:12:02 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Chainmail

Well, when you are dealing with a political party that has no ethics or morals, their only goal is tyrannical control, did you expect otherwise?


38 posted on 12/06/2012 3:55:26 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: I want the USA back

Yeah, he already told us whose side he was on. So why did retards elect him anyway?


39 posted on 12/06/2012 3:59:56 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: SeekAndFind

The even bigger news:

“NY Times Publishes Article Vaguely Critical of Obama”


40 posted on 12/06/2012 4:04:08 PM PST by tweakDU (Romney Ryan 2012 Vote!)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Ernest_at_the_Beach
post #19: From the StarGram article:

Among Nusra fighters are many Syrians who say they fought with al Qaeda in Iraq, which waged a violent campaign against the U.S. presence in that country and is blamed for suicide and car bombings that have killed hundreds of Iraqis since the U.S. troops left a year ago. ------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Saddam's old red mustached general Izzat IBRAHIM al-Duri, the Vice Chair of the RCC, North Reg Cmdr., did not suddenly show up on the scene among this Jabhat al-Nusra Islamist group.

al Duri of course was never shown to be captured. Only early reports that where never proven true, surfaced.
41 posted on 12/06/2012 4:33:30 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.
the New York Times reports
If this were before the election, I wouldn't believe this story.


42 posted on 12/06/2012 4:43:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind

jihad bump


43 posted on 12/06/2012 9:40:51 PM PST by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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