Skip to comments.EXCLUSIVE: Massacre suspect James Holmes' gun-range application drew red flag
Posted on 07/22/2012 11:35:51 AM PDT by ColdOne
BYERS, Colo. Less than a month before carrying out the midnight movie massacre that left 12 dead, suspected shooter James Holmes applied for membership at a private gun range, unnerving the clubs owner whose calls to Holmes apartment reached a creepy, weird Batman-inspired voicemail message.
His answering machine message was incoherent, just bizarre, really bizarre -- slurring words, but he didnt sound drunk, just strange -- I could make out James somewhere in it, Glenn Rotkovich, of the Lead Valley Range, in Byers, Colo., told
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In reading the article, it seems Mr. Rotkovich did a better job of determining the right person than Brian Ross did. It's not that hard if you really want to...
Obviously we need to ban comic books.
Well, there is one place he didn’t practice.
.... a lot of people?
And you wonder why so many people think you’re a psycho, Laz?
Well then, try not to use that limey poofery anywhere in the western US.
The term “cheers” is something that you pick up with the European base. A lot of Americans who spend years in Germany or the UK....end up using the expression a good bit. I used to work with a guy in my office who made twenty phone calls a day....and typically ended the call with “cheers” every single time.
I noted the kid played soccer a lot...so I’m guessing he picked up various European terms while hanging around the field.
Who says Cheers?
Hey, whats so strange about ‘Cheers’? I say it sometimes, the British say it...
Why did his Mother, confirm so readily; that this monster Joker; could well be her son. When did the 'split' begin?
And yes, for sure; was he 'aided' and abetted along the way; per this entire scenario.
Is schizohrenia and 'neuro science' a bad combination? Seems there is a threshold here; am wondering what is was; or whom. Maybe, only the 'Joker'; his guide; or, maybe not.
(Do wonder when the pic taken - with Holmes red hair, blazing.)
Seems to me that the “Gun Lobby” figured this guy out pretty quickly. It’s tragic that our “finest” could not do the same.
We need to put him in charge of vetting presidential candidates and foreigners wanting flying lessons.
The slurring and withdraw from society really beginning to back up schizophrenia as a reason.
I’m certain Laz’s “Cheers” would be better received in the intermountain west than answering the phone with “moshi moshi” after spending some time in Japan.
We need to put him in charge of vetting presidential candidates and foreigners wanting flying lessons.”
How about we let him run airport security. Maybe then some of us could return to flying.
Exactly, many people use the word Cheers...especially Anglophiles.
The slurring was probably an attempt to impersonate that Joker persona.
Don’t forget gun ranges, guns, movie theaters, hair dye, and answering machines.
I spent a year working in the UK in the late eighties, and picked up a lot of British slang. After I came home in 1990, it took years and years for me to lose the habit of using those words.
I still pop out with the occasional ‘crikey’.
I think the action necessary is to ban Hollywood from inciting riot and yelling fire in a crowded theater , It is the left in Hollywood that warp the minds of our youth with evil and they do it for money
I’d be curious to know if James’ parents knew or anticipated that he would do something like this. Obviously, James is responsible but his mother knows her son was a powder keg. “Was your son an OWS black bloc groupie?” would be a good question to ask her.
***Obviously we need to ban comic books.****
Comic books ( movies, tv and army surplus rifles) were blamed for the two Kennedy shootings back in the 1960s.
Someone on the internet claimed to post some pages from a 1980s Batman comic in which a nut shoots up a movie theater.
Ain't that the truth.
Just got back from a he!! trip.
Stuck in Charlotte, spent the night in the airport.
At midnight they came through and ran all us poor boobs out of the concourses, into the ticketing area.
Why you ask?
Per:TSA you have to be screened the same day you fly.
Midnight was rollover to next day.
Hundreds of people sleeping on the floor until TSA opened for business at 4:30 AM.
I've told everyone that I'm taking all my carry on luggage to Goodwill so I'll never be tempted to fly again.
Who actually says “Sincerely?”
Thats “GOVERNMENT” for YOU! Wait till they take over Healthcare!
I do. I also say Cheers and Regards or even Kind Regards. Depends on who I’m writing to and the occasion for writing.
I saw Prof Stanton Samenow on TV last night and he said this guy is most likely a criminal, sadistic sociopath, not schizophrenic.
That says it for me!
Samenow works at St Elizabeth’s (where Hinkcley was sent). I have seen Dr Samenow present in person..He has written the excellant book “The Criminal Mind”. he works with these types all the time and is well versed on this.
As a very astute movie audience member stated “let’s face it, there are a few Fruit Loops out their that are going to kill regardless of the means, bombs, guns, gas whatever. You’re not going to stop this kind of thing unless you completely control ever single member of society.”
With liberty and freedom comes a certain degree of risk. Personally I’ll take that risk, thank you.
English speakers. We find it less impertinant than "Have a nice day"
“Ciao Baby” probably wouldn’t go over too well either.
There is always a well meant “have sexual congress”
I hated that show. Could tell Ted was a butthead, and I knew that broad was gonna get fat and fugly!
Sometimes you want to go
where everybody knows your name.
my neighbor says cheers
my neighbor is a leftist
Therefore holmes is a leftist?
Borderline Personality Disorder.
I used to say it a lot back when I was drinking.
Half the pundits on FAUX News, including one female “Judge” have already convicted him of being evil. (I agree that what he did was evil.)
Sorry to hear about your misreable experience.
My line in the sand. Waiting to board flight in KC late at night with several others to return to Texas. Had already been groped once. Male Gestapo member of TSA said all of us had to be screened again because it was shift change time and there weren’t enough new people in line for them to complete their designated quota of complete searches at the beginning of each shift.
I completely lost it and didn’t care. Used to live in KC and have friends there that are attorneys. They left me until last and then waved me through saying it was because they had no female TSA agents available on that shift but they would make sure that I was screened at my destination before I was allowed to leave the boarding area. Once in the air, I talked with one of the flight attendants and the Captain and I was not rescreened in Houston but did walk out with them.
Neither I nor any member of my family will fly again until TSA is gone. If we can’t drive, we just won’t go. All of my business clients in other cities understand and are very supportive of my decision.
I think what we know of his history clearly points to Schizoid Personality Disorder possibly progressing into Delayed Adolescent-Onset Schizophrenia. Borderline Personality Disorder, OTOH, would ordinarily involve a lengthy history of stormy interpersonal conflicts and contacts with social agencies and/or law enforcement with impulsive acts (this episode seemed to be anything but impulsive as it was planned for months). This guy was just a “different” sort: a loner. Obviously the act itself involves sociopathic behavior. Whatever his correct diagnosis I do believe his ability to understand right and wrong was intact, although possibly distorted. His telephone message seems just like one a guy I knew in high school and college would make; that guy committed suicide after becoming increasingly more bizarre and being diagnosed as schizophrenic. He would do things like come and bang on my dorm room door late at night for no reason and giggling like The Joker.
>>involve a lengthy history of stormy interpersonal conflicts and contacts with social agencies and/or law enforcement with impulsive acts <<
My sister is diagnosed with BPD. Short of a suicide attempt or rather a fake one that she told a friend about, she has never had contact with social agencies nor law enforcement.
My SIL as well. Never in trouble. The big thing about BPD patients is they refuse to believe their diagnosis. They just walk away from it. No follow up, no post care. If it’s an adult, even the parents can’t do anything to help. In most states, they can only be held for three days in a Ward.
They KNOW how to play people, they are quiet and dangerous. They cling when they need to and are easy to come up with a past that fits their plans.
I worked Psych. I saw lots of them as well. P/S are easy to work with as long as they stay on their med and don’t drink away their monthly Prolixin depot. BPD patients are the planners. As long as their end task is at hand, (like stalking someone) they will do whatever it takes to complete it.
>> “And you wonder why so many people think youre a psycho, Laz?” <<
Most of us do not think he is a psycho.
We think he is a funny guy that we enjoy having around; what do you imagine we think of those that exist to attack our friends?
>> “Seems to me that the Gun Lobby figured this guy out pretty quickly” <<
They keep those ‘useful idiots’ in store for when they need them to influence public opinion, just like the guy in Tucson that assassinated the judge, and Tim McVey, and they’re always liberals, or had you noticed?
Dude, I think ozzy was jokin’. Holster that weapon. ;)
>> “ I knew that broad was gonna get fat and fugly!” <<
She got skinny and old looking.
So many of our old timers here have gone bad lately, I must be getting flinchy.
No! not her! The other one that so many guys thought was hot! Her pic is in post#42
Leads one to suspect this might be a false flag operation. Reichstag fire, anyone?