The Dangerous Self-Delusion of Some Conservatives

markamerica.com ^ | June 30. 2012 | Mark America

[Tau Food]

I couldn't disagree more,

And, that's okay, because we at least understand one another.

If Romney keeps moving to the left in preparation for November, there may come a time when you'll be looking for another candidate. And, maybe, if Romney renounces and sincerely apologizes for Romneycare, and commits himself publicly to getting the federal government completely out of all health care, there may come a time when I can give him a second look.

Anything's possible, I guess, but I think that in his heart, Romney's a liberal.

[Junior_G]

My mission is to seek and spread the truth and to battle falsehood.

You must have a pretty sweet superhero costume.

[greyfoxx39]

The reason you're seeing so much push back against Romney on this forum, is because he's such a blatant example of the compromise I speak of.

I agree BUT...another reason is the nasty bullying by MIttBots against Jim Robinson and every other FReeper who doesn't kiss Mitt's "Choose the Right" mormon symbol ring.

These bullies are the best advertisement for thinking that "if this an example of Romney voters, I want no part of him!"

[Junior_G]

Unfortunately, we have a lot of Wisconsin crying men (WCM’s) on the conservative side. It would not surprise me to find that some who mocked the guy a few weeks ago are now saying the exact same thing from the opposite side.

By equating the two, it sounds like you don't see a substantive difference between what happened in Wisconsin and what happened in the Supreme Court ruling.

[Norm Lenhart]

“You must have a pretty sweet superhero costume. “

It’s a team uniform. Kinda like the Avengers. Except the group is called “The John Roberts Conservatives”.

They will be there to defend your honor, safety and bring justice to everyone! Except when it’s not expedient for them to do so.

[EternalVigilance]

[rogue yam]

If Romney keeps moving to the left in preparation for November, there may come a time when you'll be looking for another candidate.

In what way, specifically, has Romney moved to the left since beginning his 2012 campaign?

[rogue yam]

You must have a pretty sweet superhero costume.

You must have nothing intelligent to say.

[Norm Lenhart]

Any person claiming to be a conservative and campaigning for a person with Mitt Romney’s voting record and history of liberal actions questioning the intelligence of ANYONE is the height of the absurd.

[Junior_G]

You must have nothing intelligent to say.

I don't claim to be more intelligent than anyone else. I was merely making a comment on your hilariously inflated sense of self-importance. Carry on, Crusader for Truth.

[wintertime]

IF Mitt Romney is elected, and IF he doesn’t sell us out, and IF we hold the House, and IF we recapture the Senate(and at least 60 votes) and IF the moderates in either house don’t screw us, and IF Boehner and McConnell have the guts to do in repealing what the villains Reid and Pelosi did in passing the ACA, and IF they can deliver a bill to President Romney’s desk, and IF John Roberts and the other liberals on the court can be replaced, and IF Mitt Romney can replace them with actual strict constructionists, THEN you might have a chance to undo this damage. IF any of these don’t happen, your constitution is effectively dead as a restraint on government.

[Tau Food]

I recall that Romney, when he was pitching to conservatives in the primary, was once talking about forcing all of the illegals to "self deport" themselves back to Mexico. He once said that he would veto the so-called "Dream Act." More recently, he's become very evasive about his immigration policy. Rather than veto the "Dream Act," he's now saying that the substance of the Dream Act would be covered by a more comprehensive (and presumably more liberal) immigration reform that he will pass as president.

Now that the primaries are over, do you expect him to say that he will force all of the illegal Mexicans to return to Mexico?

Okay, let's add that to my short list in post 341.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

That comment looks very familiar.

It should, I took those 4 examples from one of your posts!

[Cap Huff]

You are trying to read assumptions into my post that were not there in the first place. I was not trying to “equate” the recall results with the decision on Obamacare. My post was not intended to be a comparison of the election in Wisconsin with the Supreme Court decision.

The point of my post had to do with comparing reactions to a political defeat. I was comparing (not necessarily equating) the reaction of the crying man in Madison with the the hand wringing that seems to be occupying the attention of a number of conservatives. It is not a flattering comparison and I did not intend it to be so. It is my hope that the grieving process (if that is what it is) will quickly end and all can get focused on what comes next.

I would want to point out that in my post I specifically said that we should not sugar coat the decision or pretend that it is really a good thing. I feel horrible about it and said so. But dwelling on an attitude of “all is lost” is not realistic or helpful. What I believe is realistic is understanding that it will be a tough road ahead and the sooner we get off the grief thing the better.

[Kazan]

If your POS wins, you should consider vacating FR immediately because you will be deemed responsible for his each and every heresy in office. Lay in an infinite supply of asbestos undies, FRiend, because you will need them. Pass the advice to your fellow Mythbots.

Amen to that!

[Rocky]

I believe he is right. I find no comfort in the words of those who proclaim otherwise.

[Gene Eric]

>> If your POS wins, you should consider vacating FR immediately because you will be deemed responsible for his each and every heresy in office.

I’m confused about the benefits of continuing Obama’s tyranny. Do you know something I don’t know?

[raccoonnookkeeper]

I’d agree, that’s trolling beyond the pale, and you never know who is actually doing this (on the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog). For many others it’s the choice of the more tolerable of two stenches. With enough pressure (and the USA in general is going to loudly demand “severely conservative” things of him that Massachusetts only did feebly if at all), Mitt could be pliable — but to not recognize Mitt’s default shape is, agreed, self delusion.

[Tennessee Nana]

“mission” is a Romney talking point...

Willard has started talking about “my mission”

So it seems the RomneyBots have picked up the mantra..

eagerly doing the dirty work of their little master...

“my mission” sounds quite heroic and soldierly doesnt it ???

Except Wee Willie Mitty dodged the draft and ran off to France during Nam...

and has never served his country..

the term also sounds brave and self sacrificing for law and order and the country with concern for the life and liberty of others the old Mission Impossible...

“Your mission if you choose to take it is to...”

But Willie Mitty is none of those either...

Willie Mitty is a coward and self serving...an opportunist and a polititian first...

The reinvention and reimaging of Willard Mitt Romney continues...

[Sola Veritas]

“I’m also concerned about too much Mitt bashing discouraging turnout for the down-ticket races. That is something we really can’t afford.”

I don’t think you need worry about that. Although I “preach” against Romney and the GOPe at every opportunity...I equally encourage folks to get out a VOTE FOR CONSERVATIVES for the House and Senate. In my current state of residence, Missouri, I have a conservative congresswoman (elected in 2010) to help get reelected. Plus, a terrible Senator, McCaskill, to help get rid of...she is very vulnerable. I will being supporting (donations, etc.) the eventual Republican nominee (he have several to chose from).

“As conservatives we really have to start thinking two or three moves ahead.....”

I AM thinking “moves” ahead. Supporting Romney would be a serious blow to conservatives getting control of the GOP, and thus the national government. The GOPe approved candidates, like Romney, are not for the good of the country. The GOPe needs to go down in flames. However, I mainly just cannot support someone so antithetical to what I believe and am. Ergo, I cannot suport Romney. He is just too much compromise for me stomach and soul.