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Roberts jokes about trip to 'impregnable' fortress
AP ^ | Jun 29, 3:10 PM EDT | JOE MANDAK

Posted on 06/29/2012 1:57:30 PM PDT by Alissa

FARMINGTON, Pa. (AP) -- U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts joked that he'll spend some time on an "impregnable island fortress" now that the court has ended a session that featured him casting the decisive vote to uphold President Barack Obama's health care law.

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51 posted on 06/29/2012 3:06:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Smokeyblue
How may politicians have campaigned saying one thing and do a completely different thing?

They have been getting away with that only because we let them. They know that once they get in, it is awfully hard to unseat them and they get re-elected over and over again.

If politicians who didn't keep their campaign promises were thrown out of office at the next election, they would start keeping their promises. Right now, there is no penalty for that and it is us (collectively speaking) to blame.

Too many Americans are either apathetic or they have decided to live off the dole and thus accept the freebies thrown their way. Sort of like "Mollie", the horse in Orwell's Animal Farm, who is content to allow herself to be enslaved because she gets the occasional sugar cube from her oppressors.

We can no longer afford to put dishonorable people in office and expect the SCOTUS to bail us out. Don't forget that the composition of the SCOTUS is the result of the liberals and RINOS we have put in position to appoint them.

A hard turn to the right (conservatism) is the only way we are going to save the country. Being that Mitt Romney is going to be the GOP nominee, it is even more crucial to put as many conservatives into the Congress and Senate as we possibly can.

52 posted on 06/29/2012 3:07:49 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Iron Munro

Can anyone tell me where Roberts is going to be buried?

I want to start pissing on his grave right away. No reason to wait.

Maybe I should start a business. Send me your urine and I will pour it on Roberts’ grave.


53 posted on 06/29/2012 3:08:24 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: SamAdams76
Hey! We Pay HIM to protect the Constitution. Unlike the rest of us IT IS HIS ONLY JOB.

Don't carry this turds water. He told you to eat Shiite! He doesn't give a damn about the constitution. He is worse than a liberal since he can not be read to follow the law at all!

54 posted on 06/29/2012 3:12:55 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: uncbob
This bill was just a symptom not a cause

Exactly. The American people don't care about the constitution, they care about getting freebies from the gubmint.

55 posted on 06/29/2012 3:13:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Jim from C-Town
You're not going to get an argument out of me on that. But the ball is now in our court and we can put ourselves on the road to recovery with a resounding GOP/Tea Party victory in November.

Contrary to what I have read in other threads, we CAN overturn the horrendous SCOTUS decision. Over time, provided we elect conservative presidents on a regular basis, we will eventually turn the SCOTUS back to a body that defends and upholds the Constitution. But it will take a generation or two of commitment on the part of conservatives to make it happen. It won't be enough to have one blowout election this year and then go back to sitting on our hands on the sidelines.

I know I am rubbing some the wrong way with this approach but we need to convert our anger towards the SCOTUS decision into positive energy for the upcoming campaign.

After a full day of digesting what has happened, I have determined that we need to focus our energies on getting conservatives elected to office at all levels of government.

56 posted on 06/29/2012 3:20:56 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: UCANSEE2

You really don’t think his supporters can’t get out of any fee, tax, penalty, etc.? Remind me again how many in Congress forget to pay their taxes. It happens every day.


57 posted on 06/29/2012 3:22:44 PM PDT by bgill
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To: rightwingcrazy

“impregnable”


I think he means Elena Kagan.


58 posted on 06/29/2012 3:22:44 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: SamAdams76
We should not rely upon the SCUS to do our dirty work for us. Time to roll up our sleeves and get the job done ourselves this November. (I'd like to think this might have been the message Roberts was trying to send.)

I think you are engaging in some seriously tortured logic in order to make sense of what Roberts did. Granted, the citizenry should not be electing greedy elitist halfwits to the Congress, but when the franchise was extended to women and non-productive men, that was an inevitability. However, your logic implies that the design of our government is such that the voting mob has the power to do whatever it wants. That was actually the opposite of the Founders' intentions.

So, you'll have to explain to me, if it is not the job of the Supreme Court to judge bills passed by Congress for their Constitutionality, then why do we have a Supreme Court? And if the Constitution is NOT a limit on the powers of Congress, then why do we bother having a Constitution?
59 posted on 06/29/2012 3:28:26 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Alissa

I guess Roberts falls in this category now, too.....

Posted on January 3, 2012
“Michelle Obama Jokes: “I Kind Of Like” Being Called “Your Excellency”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/01/03/michelle_obama_i_kind_of_like_being_called_your_excellency.html


60 posted on 06/29/2012 3:31:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Obama is being hoisted by his own petard, and yet most seem to think Roberts should be hanged.

Obama is vermin. He's still going around saying it's a penalty. Now how does that work?! The Supreme Court rules, albeit a weak ruling, so the emperor thinks he can still change the ruling!?! What the heck?

61 posted on 06/29/2012 3:33:05 PM PDT by madison10 (I can FEEL November from here...)
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To: SamAdams76
After a full day of digesting what has happened, I have determined that we need to focus our energies on getting conservatives elected to office at all levels of government.

This is not news, we've known it for years. But the GOP has a tendency to throw a wrench into that idea, don't they? For me, this is the GOP's last chance. If they blow this, I will happily work to turn the Tea Party into a true political party that will do what they say and send the GOP to the scrap heap of history.

As for Roberts, he could have simply done the right thing and sided with Alito & Co. As far as I'm concerned, he's an elitist a$$hole undeserving of respect from true Americans. Stop defending this guy.

62 posted on 06/29/2012 3:35:21 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Arm_Bears
I hope the son-of-a-bitch lives the rest of his days nervous as a whore in church.

Along with getting a long lasting debilitating disease.

63 posted on 06/29/2012 3:36:38 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SamAdams76
I do not agree. We have had Conservative presidents who have bent over backwards to put who they believed to be true Conservatives LIKE ROBERTS on the bench. Try David Souter, John Paul Stevens, EARL WARREN!

It makes no difference who you vote for as long as the SCOTUS is allowed to legislate, which is exactly what Roberts did!

He should be Impeached and removed from the bench at loss of pension and benefits if not thrown into prison.

Enough is enough!

64 posted on 06/29/2012 3:38:32 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Alissa
Roberts jokes about trip to 'impregnable' fortress

And may I suggest a 30 year mortgage?
65 posted on 06/29/2012 3:41:12 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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66 posted on 06/29/2012 3:47:51 PM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: dfwgator

Ditto. He just admitted he voted the opposite of the way he KNEW he SHOULD have voted.


67 posted on 06/29/2012 3:52:36 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Roberts is a mole or shill for the internationalists. He has his good friend Richard Haass of the Council of Foreign Relations to follow in the New World Order. Of course there are more than a few others who want the USA to go down that path to losing It’s exceptionalism. Recall Bush1, Soros, the Rockefellers, and all the Bildebergers. And lets’ not forget the Rothchilds who seem to have had money for years to corrupt governments. As long as these enablers don’t stand in the way of ball games, casinos, and the entertainment idols the path is cleared. I’m wondering what all the celebration on the 4th of July will really mean as to our Founder’s Constitution. I will think about WWII in which I served and in which my brother died on Okinawa.


68 posted on 06/29/2012 3:58:06 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: dfwgator

I think that he knew this decision of his would be controversial. But I think he really under-estimated the response. He has no idea to what extent the reaction to his decisions will wrought.


69 posted on 06/29/2012 4:01:07 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: Alissa

What happened you ask?

I simply think Roberts is not a conservative, or as conservative as people think. I firmly believe the story that he did not like the dissenting opinions written by the other conservatives and thought they were too far right wing.

I think it’s as simple as that. The whole “evil genius” thing, or “did it on purpose”, etc, etc, etc...is just not true. I just think it’s as simple as Roberts is a middle of the road individual in terms of his politics.


70 posted on 06/29/2012 4:15:56 PM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: Alissa
What happened??????????????????

That's what I've been wondering since yesterday morning. I suspect at least one of the Liberal Messiah's apostles paid the Chief Justice a visit. I'm not convinced Roberts wanted to uphold the Individual Mandate or even ObamaCare at all. Would any of us be surprised to learn that the Liberal Messiah threatened the Chief Justice? It would be the Chicago Way.

71 posted on 06/29/2012 4:21:03 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Alissa

Roberts is just another pop star idiot.


72 posted on 06/29/2012 4:25:11 PM PDT by pallis
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To: dfwgator
He would have to be dead not to be aware of how hated his opinion was.

He won't suffer because only a person who could rationalize anything could have excreted the dreck that in contained in his opinion.

73 posted on 06/29/2012 4:33:52 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Terry Mross

Nah. He’s unrepentant. Here is his quote:

“Well, I won’t answer anything that has to do with the second part of that,” Roberts said. But he said he hopes that the court under him is remembered as one that “did our job according to the Constitution, of protecting equal justice under the law.”

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEALTH_CARE_CHIEF_JUSTICE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-06-29-11-54-34


74 posted on 06/29/2012 4:38:11 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

Lamberth hinted at the controversial decision when he asked Roberts if it bothered him that he can’t respond to his critics.

“No,” Roberts said, his brief answer hanging in the air to more laughter.


75 posted on 06/29/2012 4:39:36 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: fr_freak
However, your logic implies that the design of our government is such that the voting mob has the power to do whatever it wants. That was actually the opposite of the Founders' intentions.

True and true. Not that I'm happy about it but it's the environment we operate in. I'm quite sure that the Founding Fathers did not intend for our nation to end up like this.

The Supreme Court is ultimately a product of the presidents we have been electing for the past 40 years. Aside from perhaps Reagan, all of them have been either liberals or RINOs. Thus we cannot be surprised at the results.

The reason we cannot seem to get a truly conservative president is because candidates for the job must appeal to women, who in large part have liberal, big-government views. Now I know there are some great conservative women out there but even they have to admit that they are in the minority. Increasingly, presidential candidates must also pander to the non-productive members of society in order to get elected. The welfare class and what not.

I would love to live in a republic where only tax-paying citizens had the right to vote. But you know and I know that is just not going to happen. So we must work hard to convert enough people to the Tea Party/conservative cause where we can start electing people who share our views.

I believe that we have a chance to make some inroads this November. A lot of people who thought they were liberal or "moderate" now see the Ponzi scheme that is welfare, food stamps, socialized medicine, etc. They are realizing that the center can no longer hold. Unless we reverse direction, we are going to lose everything.

We need to win those people over and we need to get out and vote this November to drive these big-government socialists out of power once and for all.

76 posted on 06/29/2012 4:49:27 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Alissa

I never cared a whole lot for Roberts from the gitgo——thot he was a weak link and a soft choice by Bush to get somebody past Kennedy and Leahi. And he did not look like a leader, command presence and all, being important. I always thot something was wrong with him but did not know what. When he did the double cross deal with the girls I told my wife he must be off his meds. I guess the guy is epileptic. That’s what my wife thot I meant but I wasn’t aware of his actual condition. Don’t want to beat up on epileptics but have been there numerous times when one had an event. It takes awhile for them to get back to normal in my experience. Just seems to me that Roberts has had some sort of event that has messed his head up because there is nothing consistent/logical/thorough/disciplined/constitutionally rigorous about his whole filing-———just sayin’


77 posted on 06/29/2012 4:54:42 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SamAdams76

“Time to roll up our sleeves and get the job done ourselves this November.”

The Old North Bridge is coming into view, buddy. Get ready for more than elections. Polling places and entire states are about to become battlegrounds. Buckwheat will try to lie, cheat and steal for himself a second term. The courts can no longer be trusted as disinterested arbiters upholding the Constitution and rule of law. On November 6, it may be necessary to be on the streets killing Buckwheat fascists and commies by the tens of thousands. Prepare yourself. Sorry to be so negative.

If you don’t like my words, then listen to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn...

“Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if..”


78 posted on 06/29/2012 5:49:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: UCANSEE2

Obama is being hoisted by his own petard, and yet most seem to think Roberts should be hanged.

Misinformed public, is all I can say.

What part of voting with Kagan did you miss?


79 posted on 06/29/2012 5:51:18 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Obama is being hoisted by his own petard, and yet most seem to think Roberts should be hanged.

Misinformed public, is all I can say.

What part of voting with Kagan did you miss? The court ruled that there is no limit to the Federal government as long as they call it a tax.


80 posted on 06/29/2012 5:52:36 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Alissa

Think Chicago style Obama tactics.

I bet you can figure that out in the wink of an eye.


81 posted on 06/29/2012 6:03:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rightwingcrazy

The Roberts children are adopted. Your comment I don’t like at all.


82 posted on 06/29/2012 6:04:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alissa

It’s bad taste to joke about such a monumental decision.

He looked promising when nominated, but has turned out to be a huge disappointment. Typical.

The GOP has a terrible record in picking justices. It’s sickening. The only reason I voted for some GOP presidential candidates was concern over the Supreme Court. Turns out that it is mostly an exercise in futility. Even if the GOP when, another damn progressive lands on on the bench.

Anyway, from now on I’ll always count Chief Judicial Legislator Roberts as a vote for the bad guys and against the Constitution, or what’s left of it.


83 posted on 06/29/2012 6:05:06 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Salvation

Question is, were they LEGALLY adopted? Did someone in the ObamaGubmit threaten him with exposing this if he didn’t rule in favor of 0bamugabe?


84 posted on 06/29/2012 6:23:35 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Smokeyblue

Well that ain’t gonna happen NOW, genius.


85 posted on 06/29/2012 6:23:39 PM PDT by madison10 (Still trying to find that silver lining in that Death of the U.S.A. tornado funnel...)
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To: Iron Munro

LOL!


86 posted on 06/29/2012 6:24:17 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Major Matt Mason
For me, this is the GOP's last chance. If they blow this, I will happily work to turn the Tea Party into a true political party that will do what they say and send the GOP to the scrap heap of history.

Why wait? The GOPe doesn't have a problem sending US to history's scrap heap.

Why else would they keep voting for a bigger and bigger, more and more powerful Federal Government, with more ABC agencies, each with ever more intrusive power, every time they have power?

They've been infected. The only thing they understand is the threat of losing their jobs, so the TEA party is the only thing that scares them.

87 posted on 06/29/2012 6:27:39 PM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: Iron Munro

Uncle Sam's last words: "F*** Y** JOHN ROBERTS.

88 posted on 06/29/2012 6:28:26 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: sergeantdave; SamAdams76
Here's a bit more of that paragraph, I need to get a copy of the Gulag and read the whole thing, I didn't read it carefully enough years ago.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

89 posted on 06/29/2012 6:29:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: GBA
They've been infected. The only thing they understand is the threat of losing their jobs, so the TEA party is the only thing that scares them.

That's it in a nutshell.

90 posted on 06/29/2012 6:39:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Wow, I have the book. Just have to dig it out. That’s a great quote.


91 posted on 06/29/2012 6:40:53 PM PDT by madison10 (Still trying to find that silver lining in that Death of the U.S.A. tornado funnel...)
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To: CriticalJ
The GOP has a terrible record in picking justices. It’s sickening.

This is a function of the fact that the GOP has to worry about getting their justice confirmed by what is almost always a Democrat-controlled Senate.

This is why things won't change until we elect conservatives to a clear majority in the Senate. It's not enough to take back the White House and maintain a slim majority in the House. We need to get control of the Senate and maintain control for at least two or three decades to ensure that the SCOTUS is composed of people who will respect and defend the Constitution.

92 posted on 06/29/2012 6:42:47 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: little jeremiah
I have to re-read that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn book too. A Freeper turned me on to it some years ago when we had a Free Republic monthly book club going (something we ought to bring back).

That paragraph you quoted is one of the best advertisements for the Second Amendment that I have ever read.

93 posted on 06/29/2012 6:46:11 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
I'm quite sure that the Founding Fathers did not intend for our nation to end up like this.

No, but the FFs expected it would if we quit fighting for what they fought and risked it all for to create.

We are a lot sicker now than when Pearl Harbor woke us up and "they" have us right where "they" want us.

94 posted on 06/29/2012 6:48:17 PM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: madison10

I read a lot of it while visiting my parents many years ago, but it was so long I couldn’t finish it. I shoudl get one on Amazon. But I’m totally, totally broke.


95 posted on 06/29/2012 6:50:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: SamAdams76

Absolutely. I read “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” but didn’t have time to finish “Gulag”.

BTW my hub escaped from Eastern Europe during Communism. Lots of stories.


96 posted on 06/29/2012 6:52:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for filling in more of Solzhenitsyn’s quote.

He’s a powerful writer who places the reader into the gulags.

Every American patriot needs to read Solzhenitsyn in order to understand what Buckwheat has in store for us in his second term.

Obuma has alotted $100 billion to the IRS to set up a gestapo. I hope these IRS pricks won’t mind people taking their pictures as they swing from lampposts. These IRS a-holes have never been tested in combat. Most are wimpy leftists who would lose a barroom fight trying to sit on a barstool.

Cheers, FRiend


97 posted on 06/29/2012 7:21:13 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: Smokeyblue
he said he hopes that the court under him is remembered as one that “did our job according to the Constitution, of protecting equal justice under the law.”

Equal justice under the law comes from the 14th amendment which was to protect individual rights at the federal level, and limited the states'. The Constitution is made up of more than the 14th amendment, but he specifically brings up this one point. Interesting.
98 posted on 06/29/2012 7:57:53 PM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: Alissa

Wow, what a sense of humor. Too bad the joke is on the citizens of the USA and the Constitution.

Maybe, he won’t come back to the Supreme Court.


99 posted on 06/29/2012 8:04:41 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: Alissa; mickie
Elba.

Leni

100 posted on 06/29/2012 8:22:06 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Chief Justice Judas- 30 pieces of silver of my tax money for your betrayal?)
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