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Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
SCOTUSblog ^ | June 28, 2012 | SCOTUSblog

Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W

Today is the day. SCOTUSblog live at 8:45 AM.

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It has been stated on this thread that Chief Justice Roberts is another blemish on the record of President George Bush. I would like to address that point.

President Bush was not someone I could support a good portion of the time. I have railed on him here many times over the years.

When it comes to appointments to the court, they can look pretty good when they are made and voted upon. Years later, they stand a good chance of being viewed quite differently.

When President Reagan appointed Sandra Day O’Conner, it’s my understanding she didn’t look bad. Today we consider her to be quite a liberal SCOTUS Justice.

When Roberts was approved, we were all quite happy about it. He seemed like a good choice. Now we’re aware that at least with regard to this Obamacare ruling, he’s Dufus Maximus.

I don’t think we should blame President Bush for this anymore than we should blame ourselves, since we were in favor of Robert’s appointment.

This sucks, but Chief Justice Roberts should be the focus.

This is one instance where I’m not going to take Bush to task.

I thought Roberts was a good selection. I never saw him screwing a ruling this badly.

And yes, he really f’d up on this one. His ruling was an embarrassment to himself. It was an embarrassment to the court. It was an embarrassment to the nation.

Citizens have every right to be furious about this.


621 posted on 06/28/2012 8:35:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: PJ-Comix; paul544
"So are you saying that ObamaCare now has to go back to Congress for approval as a TAX?"

Roberts has said, in so many words, Obamacare's soft underbelly is that it's a tax. Meaning Congress can have at it. It's a creature of Congress, they can unmake it in like kind.

Like Paul544 just said, 'Congress could, in theory, pass a tax code revision that says the penalty for not having insurance is $1.'

622 posted on 06/28/2012 8:36:01 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: wk4bush2004

I believe it happened the day of SCOTUS’ conference on Donofrio’s eligibility lawsuit. That’s the day Roberts issued an unprecedented and unethical ex parte invitation to Obama to visit SCOTUS. Deliberately timed the same day as the conference to give the maximum appearance of corruption - as a red flag that he was compromised. The botching of the oath of office and the “re-do” never being videotaped was another red flag. I suspect that Justice Souter (?) addressing Joe Biden as “Mr. President” was another deliberate signal. As was Dick Cheney’s failure to ask for objections during the electoral count.


623 posted on 06/28/2012 8:36:15 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: reegs
How does this prevent a freedom-loving “insurance” company from providing health insurance for $.01 a month with an extensive rider that indicates no actual healthcare (with maybe the exception of aspirin) will be provided?

Because I'm pretty sure puts all kinds of restrictions on what insurance companies can do. It sounds like they essentially become agencies of the government based on how many rules they have to follow to be allowed to operate as insurance companies.

624 posted on 06/28/2012 8:36:26 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: pollywog
202-225-0600 John Boehner REPEAL! REPEAL! REPEAL!

Just called. It was not busy at all.

625 posted on 06/28/2012 8:36:31 AM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: Deo volente

It stands. But it can be repealed. Chances of repeal are that much greater now that is universally understood as a TAX


626 posted on 06/28/2012 8:36:43 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: untwist; PJ-Comix
So are you saying that ObamaCare now has to go back to Congress for approval as a TAX?

It doesn't have to go anywhere. It was construed to be a tax as is.

Based on this ruling, nothing needs Congressional action except the MediCaid portion that was struck down.

627 posted on 06/28/2012 8:37:47 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: DaveInDallas

The current law allowed criminal sanctions for non-compliance. The SC disallowed this, and allowed sanctions as a tax only. It appears it WILL have to be re-written.


628 posted on 06/28/2012 8:37:58 AM PDT by alamogal
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To: Varsity Flight

Rubio on Fox: “If you do not buy insurance the IRS ... is going to come after you.”


629 posted on 06/28/2012 8:38:38 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Aurorales

Every American should be very afraid of the power of the IRS.


Absolutely. To many people have know idea what a nightmere it is once the g’mints get its claws in you.
Whether its the IRS or the EPA.
I haven’t been through it personally but I know people who have.
Good luck to you.
Good luck to us all!


630 posted on 06/28/2012 8:40:26 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

And thank you again. It’s a nice little glimmer of hope on a day that is primarily depressing and frightening. I’ve seen first hand what places without freedom can become. My only solace is that I don’t have too many years left and no kids who will suffer under tyranny in America.


631 posted on 06/28/2012 8:40:34 AM PDT by Stat Man
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To: over3Owithabrain

But you can avoid paying income tax by not making any income. I can’t think of another tax that you MUST pay or be jailed. It might as well be a tax on breathing.


632 posted on 06/28/2012 8:41:02 AM PDT by GnL
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To: Windflier

I agree with you on this, Justice Roberts has just SLAPPED the
American people upside the head and said FIGHT for your country!!!
Elect legislators that will give you back your freedoms THIS IS NOW A
TAX AND THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR SIDE!!!!!


633 posted on 06/28/2012 8:41:02 AM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: newzjunkey
........adding to what you just said , we need to

" roll up our sleeves, stop lamenting , and FIGHT to regain DC in November." Presidency , Senate, Congress, down to the dishwashers!!!

Someone could make a list of all the possible victories and close races and we need to fund money and get out there and work!

In the meantime, encourage Boehner to

call for a REPEAL!

202-225-0600

634 posted on 06/28/2012 8:41:10 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Deo volente
Okay, I’m confused here. Does this have to back to Congress to be re-written and passed as a tax, or does it stand, although redefined by the Court as a tax?

It stands and it has NOT been redefined as a tax.

Roberts just justified his decision by stating that the mandate could fall under the taxation powers of the government. The Commerce Clause is used for many of the same things, but it doesn't redefine everything under it's umbrella as commerce.

635 posted on 06/28/2012 8:41:14 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: butterdezillion

Source please.


636 posted on 06/28/2012 8:41:31 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: DaveInDallas

I agree that the ruling does not force this to be rewritten. The ruling took away Congress’ ability to use the Commerce Clause as a backdoor forced tax. If the Democrats had tried to pass this disaster the legal way as a tax, it never would have passed. How now to pay for it?

The House now has the ball. It is up to us to play this under the ‘legal’ process. We have the power to kill it. Will we?


637 posted on 06/28/2012 8:41:49 AM PDT by untwist
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To: John W

Face it folks. For America the Fat Lady has not only sung, she’s well into her 2nd encore.


638 posted on 06/28/2012 8:42:27 AM PDT by LaybackLenny (Principles aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. I'm voting Romney. God help me.)
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To: Dead Corpse

How many Democrats running for re election will stand with Harry? I don’t think too many will unless they come from big lib states. Tester, McGaskill ? I don’t think so.


639 posted on 06/28/2012 8:42:33 AM PDT by surrey
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To: JeffAtlanta

Thanks for clearing that up.


640 posted on 06/28/2012 8:43:07 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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