Skip to comments.George Zimmerman Passed Police Lie Detector Test Day After Trayvon Martin Killing
Posted on 06/26/2012 11:32:48 AM PDT by TSgt
A day after killing Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman passed a police lie detector test when asked if he confronted the teenager and whether he feared for his life when you shot the guy, according to documents released today by Florida prosecutors.
According to a confidential report prepared by the Sanford Police Department, Zimmerman willingly submitted to a computer voice stress analyzer (CVSA) truth verification on February 27. Investigators concluded that he has told substantially the complete truth in regards to this examination.
Zimmerman, the report noted, was classified as No Deception Indicated (NDI).
Along with questions about whether his first name was George and if it was Monday, Zimmerman was asked, Did you confront the guy you shot? He answered, No. He was also asked, Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy. Zimmerman replied, Yes.
All poly operators will say the instrument is not 100% accurate.
However, ALL poly operators will individually say THEY are 100% accurate.
It’s only dishonest if the person who posts it KNOWS it is not accurate. You seem to be claiming that Responsibility2nd knew this. Kindly provide proof that he knew. Thanks.
Technically, he did not. But speculation was rampant that he probably could have done so because he was such a good liar. Nebraska’s ex-senator said “Bill Clinton would rather climb a mountain and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.”
That's a Rather interesting argument
Tell me more. What is meant by that?
The records of GZ' assault on a cop and literally throwing his girl friend around have been posted here. TM has no record beyond school suspensions and no history of violence.
Please explain why a stupid seventeen year old posting pictures flipping the bird means that he's a thug deserving to be shot. If that were so half the kids in the country would qualify.
2) I'm not anti-freeper at all...I am absolutely anti-lying-racist-stupid people and there are freepers who fit that bill.
He does now, as of 2/26/2012.
It doesn't. Assaulting GZ and bashing his head on the concrete does.
Why do you keep trolling these threads?
Name 'em troll.
You posted a whole series of lies saying that I was freepmailing you and telling me to stop and so on, when I wasn't, and never have freepmailed you.
It was probably the worst case of blatant lying that I have ever seen on freerepublic.
The operative statement was "from what I have read"
I'd "Rather" not comment further ;)
Your conclusion is stupid an one of a libtard troll.
Who ever said that someone who flips a bird is worthy of being shot?
The post I made was in reference to the said character and dismissing the "yout" portrayed by the media.
The "kid" was shot because he was bashing another man's head into the cement, something that obviously happened to you on more than one occasion.
Freaking idiot troll.
I would have great difficulty finding any truth in anything you post.
In other news, the son of the judge in the case went to school with Shellie Zimmerman
And, although it has nothing to do with this case, read about Shellie's father, David Bryant Dean. The article is from 1991 so he's now 57, not 36.
To lie by failing to tell the truth:
>> “TM has no record beyond school suspensions and no history of violence.” <<
TM’s record is not officially available, but he does have a long record of violence and general antisocial behavior.
<>The Orlando Sentinel has identified Witness 9 as Zimmerman’s former girlfriend.<>
That explains her irrational irrelevant rant and why he had to file a restraining order against her.
<>In other news, the son of the judge in the case went to school with Shellie Zimmerman<>
Any yet he still revokes her husband’s bail contrary what the law requires. Must not have liked her.
<>And, although it has nothing to do with this case, read about Shellie’s father, David Bryant Dean.<>
You’re right it does have nothing to do with the case but this sure does:
Thanks for sharing. Don’t be a stranger. Please come again.
It was probably the worst case of blatant lying that I have ever seen on freerepublic.
I'd for one....be interested in your reply here, wtc911.
Not available but you know what's in it? Please provide proof of what you say.
I, along with other freepers, have stopped replying to that particular freeper a long time ago. He/she has a reputstion for pulling folks into non-sensical, increasingly insulting arguments. You of course are free to engage him/her all you like.
Then it should be easy to prove dozens of lies....go ahead.
Oh, so you agree that TM’s flipping the bird shot has absolutely nothing to do with what happened that night. Thanks.
Considering the "charge" ansel12 leveled....I figured you might want to rebut it.
Apparently that isn't so.........
You aren't winning the arguments here....
Then why bother to bring it up at all?
I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think about my ‘winning’ arguments...fwiw.
Apparently that’s your mantra here..........
We all know what his ownbrother said. On suspension for the severe beating of a bus driver.
You're right. Except it does give us all a lasting picture of the mentality of the drug-using antagonistic headbanger that he was.
Because we need a picture of Trayvon to go with the description of the assailant who instigated and carried out the beating of GZ that fateful night in February -- and that picture is worth a thousand words.
VSAs are very reliable. Still can’t be used in court, but better than polys.
They look more like....”lady fingers.”
Pathetic moron troll. Please learn to not only read but comprehend what you read.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
That's my “nice” response; I'll keep the others in my sock drawer until garbage day comes...
Because of your lame straw man: Please explain why a stupid seventeen year old posting pictures flipping the bird means that he's a thug deserving to be shot.
That is not why he was shot, but it goes to his character. As does his thuggish, gangster wannabe facebook posts or tweets
Still, keep trolling.
There is lots of movement around the clubhouse for about 6-8 minutes, before George calls dispatch.
It's amazing what all is on those clubhouse videos, once you know where to start looking ... most all the action in the videos is during the 20 to 26/27 min. marks. The east pool video shows the police arriving at at 7:17, so you can figure out the rest of the times in the videos. No doubt about it though, George (and his crew?) were a-hunting.
I don't think George just happened to be going to the store at that exact moment ... I think he got a call from Frank Taffee who saw Trayvon walking on the shortcut which just happens to go right by his house (1460 Retreat View Circle). George says he first spied Trayvon on Taffee's lawn. There is rumor they did stalk him for days leading to his death ... I don't know how true that is, but its floating around out there.
Taffee's house is also the house that George says he called cops a few weeks earlier (2/2/12) because Taffee left his windows open and George says 'he leaves his doors unlocked'. Why would Taffee be leaving his doors unlocked and windows open if there is a history of break-ins the neighborhood?
What it sounds like to me is that George and Taffee were trying to 'set up' a robbery or stage a house that looked 'ripe' to be robbed and they were either ... A. going to 'catch' the person or ... B. they had planned to kill whoever they caught trying to break in and premeditatively planned a 'SYG killing'.
Speaking of Taffee, he said he received the 2/2 call from George at 6:30pm and he was about 1/2 hour away ... yet the call to the police wasn't made until 8:30pm.
That’s what I thought. Thanks for the clarification.
Whoopsie... this gonna upset alot of peeps
Not true at all. TM had just arrived from his mother's house in Miami Gardens half the state of Florida away that very day, unless they were stalking him down there. Is that what you want to claim???
but its floating around out there.
Where in your desperate imagination or Crump's degenerating brainstem???
Get real. You've been out in the sun too long.
I didn’t realize that you were posting about me until just now.
No one was trying to draw you into “ non-sensical, increasingly insulting arguments”.
You asked to be shown when you have posted a single lie, and in post 61 I merely pointed out that I am willing to show several of them, posted in the worst series of blatant lies that I have ever seen here at FR.
You have a well earned OFFICIAL title of being a troll.
Results from those things will always raise a skeptical eyebrow with me. I failed one during a job application once and I know for damn sure I wasn't lying. I stupidly agreed to one a few years later for a different job and the guy said I was "iffy" but he was going to pass me because my responses were "all over the place" and what he was seeing "didn't make sense". Nope. Never again. No one can read what's going on in someone else's head.
Obama's look pretty long also. I think it is just that Trayvon and Obama are both quite tall and slim. OH! and remember Obama said; "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon." :-)
Media bias poster is great - thanks for sharing.
What it sounds like to me is that George and Taffee were trying to ‘set up’ a robbery or stage a house that looked ‘ripe’ to be robbed and they were either ... A. going to ‘catch’ the person or ... B. they had planned to kill whoever they caught trying to break in and premeditatively planned a ‘SYG killing’.
If Zimmerman had a plan to pick off Trayvon in a set up, do you think he would have permitted Trayvon to punch him in the face and then pound his head on the cement...I don’t think so.
I think when he saw Trayvon acting aggressive, he would have shot him or maybe taken the punch and then shot him. He did not act like a guy with the plot you propose who was prepared to kill Trayvon. Had it been me, I would have shot Saint Skittles first sign of out of control aggression.
There are lots of reasons George may have spoken with Taffee. The flashlight speculation at the club house has you out on the kook limb. Zimmerman was in a neighborhood watch group formed due to heavy crime. There is nothing odd about people walking with flash lights around their neighborhood when it’s dark. Nothing odd about a watch group member, George or any one else in the neighborhood, looking around for security reasons.
It was the youngster Austin walking his dog who also witnessed the TM's attack on GZ. Was he in on your conspiracy as well????
One thing I am not buying face value was Zimmerman's ability to pull a gun while on his back on the ground in a fight. That is nearly impossible to do. It is a simple matter of physics and dimensions of the human body. Just like you cannot stick your elbow in your ear, you cannot reach your waist band with your hand unless you spread your elbows out so they extend out like wings.
But along comes George Zimmerman, reenacting the events as he tries to gild his self defense claim. Here is a snap from the reenactment video (time 2:39) showing Zimmerman reenacting the moment he pulls the gun. He claims Martin has reached for his gun now that it has become exposed and Zimmerman has pinned Martins arm with his right arm while he pulls the gun.
To prove how impossible this really is, look where Zimmermans hand can reach while pinning his other arm (representing Martins arm). He cannot reach up to his waist band with his right hand, nor can he really draw a gun up and out of a holster. Now look where Zimmerman puts his hand just a few seconds earlier when he indicates where he wears his holster (time 2:22).
Zimmermans holster is worn around the back which means Martin could not see it if he was sitting on top of Zimmerman with Zimmermans back on the ground. Second, there is no way to pin the arm and pull the gun as can be seen in this second position where Zimmerman mimics grabbing his holster. Look where is elbow is. This is all fabrication because it is all physically impossible.
There is a huge discrepancy in Zimmermans account concerning where he said the initial attack took place and where it ended.
In the reenactment video you can see Zimmerman trying to make up the distance between where he is punched at the top of the sidewalk T and where the Martins body ends up. You can see how quickly he tries to add something new about pushing off Martin and pulling away. Something COMPLETELY at odds with his signed statement and audio statements the night he was detained.
And all this talk of his head being bashed on the concrete is amusing to me. He had two minor cuts. Two. One was 1/4″ long, the second was less than 1″. Neither required stitches. Neither required any treatment above and beyond on-the-scene first aid as administered by paramedics ... except for a couple of knuckle bandaids that were slapped onto the back of his head at some point in time.
I also find this continued assertion that he is unfamiliar with Twin Trees Lane hard to swallow. Theres only three streets in the entire complex ... Retreat View Circle, Lone Oak and Twin Trees. I find it hard to believe that such an enthusiastic and diligent neighborhood watch captain, who walks his dog around the neighborhood, couldnt manage to retain the names of only three streets after two years.
Why did Zimmerman wait 2 hours to call the police on February 2nd? A 'suspect' was observed at 6:30pm ... the police were contacted at 8:30pm.