George Zimmerman Passed Police Lie Detector Test Day After Trayvon Martin Killing

TSG ^ | 6/26/2012 | TSG

[TSgt]

A day after killing Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman passed a police lie detector test when asked if he confronted the teenager and whether he feared for his life “when you shot the guy,” according to documents released today by Florida prosecutors.

According to a “confidential report” prepared by the Sanford Police Department, Zimmerman willingly submitted to a computer voice stress analyzer (CVSA) “truth verification” on February 27. Investigators concluded that he “has told substantially the complete truth in regards to this examination.”

Zimmerman, the report noted, “was classified as No Deception Indicated (NDI).”

Along with questions about whether his first name was George and if it was Monday, Zimmerman was asked, “Did you confront the guy you shot?’ He answered, “No.” He was also asked, “Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy.” Zimmerman replied, “Yes.”

[hummingbird]

His fingers are so slim. Have they been photoshopped in?

They look more like....”lady fingers.”

[Las Vegas Ron]

Oh, so you agree that TM’s flipping the bird shot has absolutely nothing to do with what happened that night.

Pathetic moron troll. Please learn to not only read but comprehend what you read.

Pfffft!

[Las Vegas Ron]

fwiw.

aws.

[hummingbird]

So much could be said.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

That's my “nice” response; I'll keep the others in my sock drawer until garbage day comes...

[MileHi]

Then why bother to bring it up at all?

Because of your lame straw man: Please explain why a stupid seventeen year old posting pictures flipping the bird means that he's a thug deserving to be shot.

That is not why he was shot, but it goes to his character. As does his thuggish, gangster wannabe facebook posts or tweets

Still, keep trolling.

[Beach_Babe]

This has to be a flashlight coming in the far east door, close to the mailboxes. There is no parking for car headlights to point in from this direction. So this is George (or an accomplice?) shining a working flashlight in the clubhouse.

There is lots of movement around the clubhouse for about 6-8 minutes, before George calls dispatch.

It's amazing what all is on those clubhouse videos, once you know where to start looking ... most all the action in the videos is during the 20 to 26/27 min. marks. The east pool video shows the police arriving at at 7:17, so you can figure out the rest of the times in the videos. No doubt about it though, George (and his crew?) were a-hunting.

I don't think George just happened to be going to the store at that exact moment ... I think he got a call from Frank Taffee who saw Trayvon walking on the shortcut which just happens to go right by his house (1460 Retreat View Circle). George says he first spied Trayvon on Taffee's lawn. There is rumor they did stalk him for days leading to his death ... I don't know how true that is, but its floating around out there.

Taffee's house is also the house that George says he called cops a few weeks earlier (2/2/12) because Taffee left his windows open and George says 'he leaves his doors unlocked'. Why would Taffee be leaving his doors unlocked and windows open if there is a history of break-ins the neighborhood?

What it sounds like to me is that George and Taffee were trying to 'set up' a robbery or stage a house that looked 'ripe' to be robbed and they were either ... A. going to 'catch' the person or ... B. they had planned to kill whoever they caught trying to break in and premeditatively planned a 'SYG killing'.

Speaking of Taffee, he said he received the 2/2 call from George at 6:30pm and he was about 1/2 hour away ... yet the call to the police wasn't made until 8:30pm.

Humm ...

[justice14]

That’s what I thought. Thanks for the clarification.

[Jaded]

Whoopsie... this gonna upset alot of peeps

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2899797/posts

[Uncle Chip]

It's all comin' apart for you, isn't it, babe. You guys have been reduced to the depths of desperation.

LOLOLOL

[Uncle Chip]

There is rumor they did stalk him for days leading to his death ... I don't know how true that is,

Not true at all. TM had just arrived from his mother's house in Miami Gardens half the state of Florida away that very day, unless they were stalking him down there. Is that what you want to claim???

but its floating around out there.

Where in your desperate imagination or Crump's degenerating brainstem???

Get real. You've been out in the sun too long.

[ansel12]

I didn’t realize that you were posting about me until just now.

No one was trying to draw you into “ non-sensical, increasingly insulting arguments”.

You asked to be shown when you have posted a single lie, and in post 61 I merely pointed out that I am willing to show several of them, posted in the worst series of blatant lies that I have ever seen here at FR.

You have a well earned OFFICIAL title of being a troll.

[ElkGroveDan]

but it doesn't mean I implicitly trust the police, their gee-whiz toys

Results from those things will always raise a skeptical eyebrow with me. I failed one during a job application once and I know for damn sure I wasn't lying. I stupidly agreed to one a few years later for a different job and the guy said I was "iffy" but he was going to pass me because my responses were "all over the place" and what he was seeing "didn't make sense". Nope. Never again. No one can read what's going on in someone else's head.

[Spunky]

Obama's look pretty long also. I think it is just that Trayvon and Obama are both quite tall and slim. OH! and remember Obama said; "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon." :-)

[GOPJ]

Media bias poster is great - thanks for sharing.

[SaraJohnson]

What it sounds like to me is that George and Taffee were trying to ‘set up’ a robbery or stage a house that looked ‘ripe’ to be robbed and they were either ... A. going to ‘catch’ the person or ... B. they had planned to kill whoever they caught trying to break in and premeditatively planned a ‘SYG killing’.

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Suspicious minds...

If Zimmerman had a plan to pick off Trayvon in a set up, do you think he would have permitted Trayvon to punch him in the face and then pound his head on the cement...I don’t think so.

I think when he saw Trayvon acting aggressive, he would have shot him or maybe taken the punch and then shot him. He did not act like a guy with the plot you propose who was prepared to kill Trayvon. Had it been me, I would have shot Saint Skittles first sign of out of control aggression.

There are lots of reasons George may have spoken with Taffee. The flashlight speculation at the club house has you out on the kook limb. Zimmerman was in a neighborhood watch group formed due to heavy crime. There is nothing odd about people walking with flash lights around their neighborhood when it’s dark. Nothing odd about a watch group member, George or any one else in the neighborhood, looking around for security reasons.

[Uncle Chip]

This has to be a flashlight coming in the far east door, close to the mailboxes. There is no parking for car headlights to point in from this direction. So this is George (or an accomplice?) shining a working flashlight in the clubhouse.

It was the youngster Austin walking his dog who also witnessed the TM's attack on GZ. Was he in on your conspiracy as well????

[Beach_Babe]

I just get the feeling that once people get up a head of steam with their own view they tend to become myopic. This is definitely a complicated case and we still are not privy to all the evidence. When people start making snotty little remarks I feel compelled to step in with alternate hyposthes which may not be likely, but as least are plausible.

One thing I am not buying face value was Zimmerman's ability to pull a gun while on his back on the ground in a fight. That is nearly impossible to do. It is a simple matter of physics and dimensions of the human body. Just like you cannot stick your elbow in your ear, you cannot reach your waist band with your hand unless you spread your elbows out so they extend out like wings.

But along comes George Zimmerman, reenacting the events as he tries to gild his self defense claim. Here is a snap from the reenactment video (time 2:39) showing Zimmerman reenacting the moment he pulls the gun. He claims Martin has reached for his gun – now that it has become exposed – and Zimmerman has pinned Martin’s arm with his right arm – while he pulls the gun.

To prove how impossible this really is, look where Zimmerman’s hand can reach while pinning his other arm (representing Martin’s arm). He cannot reach up to his waist band with his right hand, nor can he really draw a gun up and out of a holster. Now look where Zimmerman puts his hand just a few seconds earlier when he indicates where he wears his holster (time 2:22).

Zimmerman’s holster is worn around the back – which means Martin could not see it if he was sitting on top of Zimmerman with Zimmerman’s back on the ground. Second, there is no way to pin the arm and pull the gun as can be seen in this second position where Zimmerman mimics grabbing his holster. Look where is elbow is. This is all fabrication because it is all physically impossible.

There is a huge discrepancy in Zimmerman’s account concerning where he said the initial attack took place and where it ended.

In the reenactment video you can see Zimmerman trying to make up the distance between where he is punched at the top of the sidewalk T and where the Martin’s body ends up. You can see how quickly he tries to add something new – about pushing off Martin and pulling away. Something COMPLETELY at odds with his signed statement and audio statements the night he was detained.

And all this talk of his head being “bashed” on the concrete is amusing to me. He had two minor cuts. Two. One was 1/4″ long, the second was less than 1″. Neither required stitches. Neither required any treatment above and beyond on-the-scene first aid as administered by paramedics ... except for a couple of knuckle bandaids that were slapped onto the back of his head at some point in time.

I also find this continued assertion that he is unfamiliar with Twin Trees Lane hard to swallow. There’s only three streets in the entire complex ... Retreat View Circle, Lone Oak and Twin Trees. I find it hard to believe that such an enthusiastic and diligent neighborhood watch captain, who walks his dog around the neighborhood, couldn’t manage to retain the names of only three streets after two years.

[Beach_Babe]

The kid had a flashlight and was walking his dog near the clubhouse? How could he have been a witness to the attack that was occuring at the dog walk area behind the townhomes?

Why did Zimmerman wait 2 hours to call the police on February 2nd? A 'suspect' was observed at 6:30pm ... the police were contacted at 8:30pm.

[Uncle Chip]

FYI:

http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/06/simple-answers-to-stupid-questions-why-didnt-trayvon-bleed-on-zimmerman/

[SaraJohnson]

One thing I am not buying face value was Zimmerman's ability to pull a gun while on his back on the ground in a fight. That is nearly impossible to do. -------------------------------------------- This will easily be established from an examination of the wound in Trayvon's body. Witnesses saw saint skittles on top of Zimmerman right before he was shot. The autopsy showed that Trayvon was shot at close range like Zimmerman described. ------------------------------- ---------------------------------- And all this talk of his head being “bashed” on the concrete is amusing to me. He had two minor cuts. Two. One was 1/4″ long, the second was less than 1″. Neither required stitches. Neither required any treatment above and beyond on-the-scene first aid as administered by paramedics ... except for a couple of knuckle bandaids that were slapped onto the back of his head at some point in time. ------------------------------- It does not much matter what you think about the seriousness of the bashing. No one has the right to punch the face of another person, pin him and smash his head and if an aggressor takes that action, they might get shot in self defense. Americans don't have to take a beating from a hoodie or anyone else. Saint Skittles does not get a free break the nose or head bash card in life. I am sure he was mad because Zimmerman was suspicious of him. He should have gone home and told his dad. Instead he decided to break bad and play 'Knock out King' on the wrong victim. ------------------------------- -------------------------------- When people start making snotty little remarks I feel compelled to step in with alternate hyposthes which may not be likely, but as least are plausible. ------------------------------------ I'm not that crazy that I got drawn into a discussion with you when all you were doing is emoting with implausible scenarios due to your perception of 'snotty little remarks.'