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To: Beach_Babe

What it sounds like to me is that George and Taffee were trying to ‘set up’ a robbery or stage a house that looked ‘ripe’ to be robbed and they were either ... A. going to ‘catch’ the person or ... B. they had planned to kill whoever they caught trying to break in and premeditatively planned a ‘SYG killing’.


Suspicious minds...

If Zimmerman had a plan to pick off Trayvon in a set up, do you think he would have permitted Trayvon to punch him in the face and then pound his head on the cement...I don’t think so.

I think when he saw Trayvon acting aggressive, he would have shot him or maybe taken the punch and then shot him. He did not act like a guy with the plot you propose who was prepared to kill Trayvon. Had it been me, I would have shot Saint Skittles first sign of out of control aggression.

There are lots of reasons George may have spoken with Taffee. The flashlight speculation at the club house has you out on the kook limb. Zimmerman was in a neighborhood watch group formed due to heavy crime. There is nothing odd about people walking with flash lights around their neighborhood when it’s dark. Nothing odd about a watch group member, George or any one else in the neighborhood, looking around for security reasons.


95 posted on 06/26/2012 10:00:18 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
I just get the feeling that once people get up a head of steam with their own view they tend to become myopic. This is definitely a complicated case and we still are not privy to all the evidence. When people start making snotty little remarks I feel compelled to step in with alternate hyposthes which may not be likely, but as least are plausible.

One thing I am not buying face value was Zimmerman's ability to pull a gun while on his back on the ground in a fight. That is nearly impossible to do. It is a simple matter of physics and dimensions of the human body. Just like you cannot stick your elbow in your ear, you cannot reach your waist band with your hand unless you spread your elbows out so they extend out like wings.

But along comes George Zimmerman, reenacting the events as he tries to gild his self defense claim. Here is a snap from the reenactment video (time 2:39) showing Zimmerman reenacting the moment he pulls the gun. He claims Martin has reached for his gun – now that it has become exposed – and Zimmerman has pinned Martin’s arm with his right arm – while he pulls the gun.

To prove how impossible this really is, look where Zimmerman’s hand can reach while pinning his other arm (representing Martin’s arm). He cannot reach up to his waist band with his right hand, nor can he really draw a gun up and out of a holster. Now look where Zimmerman puts his hand just a few seconds earlier when he indicates where he wears his holster (time 2:22).

Zimmerman’s holster is worn around the back – which means Martin could not see it if he was sitting on top of Zimmerman with Zimmerman’s back on the ground. Second, there is no way to pin the arm and pull the gun as can be seen in this second position where Zimmerman mimics grabbing his holster. Look where is elbow is. This is all fabrication because it is all physically impossible.

There is a huge discrepancy in Zimmerman’s account concerning where he said the initial attack took place and where it ended.

In the reenactment video you can see Zimmerman trying to make up the distance between where he is punched at the top of the sidewalk T and where the Martin’s body ends up. You can see how quickly he tries to add something new – about pushing off Martin and pulling away. Something COMPLETELY at odds with his signed statement and audio statements the night he was detained.

And all this talk of his head being “bashed” on the concrete is amusing to me. He had two minor cuts. Two. One was 1/4″ long, the second was less than 1″. Neither required stitches. Neither required any treatment above and beyond on-the-scene first aid as administered by paramedics ... except for a couple of knuckle bandaids that were slapped onto the back of his head at some point in time.

I also find this continued assertion that he is unfamiliar with Twin Trees Lane hard to swallow. There’s only three streets in the entire complex ... Retreat View Circle, Lone Oak and Twin Trees. I find it hard to believe that such an enthusiastic and diligent neighborhood watch captain, who walks his dog around the neighborhood, couldn’t manage to retain the names of only three streets after two years.

97 posted on 06/27/2012 6:38:58 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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