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This Is the Way the World Ends? Volcanoes Could Darken World
ABC News ^ | June 6, 2012 | LEE DYE

Posted on 06/06/2012 7:25:44 PM PDT by presidio9

Are you worried about the end of life as we know it? Then don't just look to the sky for that catastrophic asteroid that could be heading our way. The end may come from right beneath your feet.

Super-volcanoes have probably caused more extinctions than asteroids. But until now it has been thought that these giant volcanoes took thousands of years to form -- and would remain trapped beneath the earth's crust for thousands more years -- before having much effect on the planet.

But new research indicates these catastrophic eruptions, possibly thousands of times more powerful than the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens, may happen only a few hundred years after the volcanoes form. In other words, they may have a very "short fuse," according to researchers at Vanderbilt University.

Such an event could make thermonuclear war or global warming seem trivial, spewing untold tons of ash into the atmosphere to block sunlight. The result would be many years of frigid temperatures, wiping out millions of species. A super-volcano that erupted 250 million years ago is now believed to have created the greatest mass extinction the world has ever seen, wiping out up to 95 percent of all plant and animal species. Some renegade scientists believe it was a volcano, not an asteroid, that killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

But is global suicide lurking right below our feet? Is a super-volcano about to blow its top? Not as far as scientists can tell. Such a volcano results from the accumulation of a giant pool of lava just a few miles below the ground, and there is no known formation anywhere on the planet that is expected to erupt in the immediate future.

Scientists, who could be wrong about that,

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; junkscience; toba
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1 posted on 06/06/2012 7:25:49 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Let’s face it, we’re ALL going to die. Someday.


2 posted on 06/06/2012 7:28:47 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: presidio9

The key question is what is man doing to spur these volcanoes, and how many multiples of the total of the world’s GDP will have to be spent to stop it...


3 posted on 06/06/2012 7:31:21 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: C210N

and, until the answers to those questions are known, we won’t really be able to become super volcano deniers.


4 posted on 06/06/2012 7:32:27 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: presidio9

“Such a volcano results from the accumulation of a giant pool of lava just a few miles below the ground, and there is no known formation anywhere on the planet that is expected to erupt in the immediate future.”

Admittedly didn’t click the link to read more. Yahoo news takes forever to load on dial up.

The quote above from the excerpt left me wondering about Yellowstone, and all the articles scaring the you-know-what out of us about how a huge percentage of the U.S. will go bye-bye when it explodes. NOT IF it explodes, but WHEN it explodes.

Any comments?


5 posted on 06/06/2012 7:34:20 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: presidio9
Such a volcano results from the accumulation of a giant pool of lava just a few miles below the ground, and there is no known formation anywhere on the planet

Except Yellowstone.

And some places in far east Russia.

I won't worry about what I can't do anything about. But it is good to double-check your insurance should something happen.

/johnny

6 posted on 06/06/2012 7:34:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: C210N

If Rankin/Bass taught us nothing else, surely we should have learned by now to obey Mother Nature...

7 posted on 06/06/2012 7:35:45 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: C210N

So let’s hurry the global warming along to help counteract the cooling from one of these volcanoes erupting.


8 posted on 06/06/2012 7:36:07 PM PDT by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
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To: presidio9
Scientists, who could be wrong about that,

IOW they haven't reached a "consensus" declaring the science "settled"....look for this right about the time the EPA lackeys finish drafting some horrendous bill for kongress to pass stealing more of our money and freedom.

9 posted on 06/06/2012 7:39:37 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: SunkenCiv

FYI


10 posted on 06/06/2012 7:41:17 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: presidio9

So all of this handwringing over “global cooling/warming/change” was for nothing?


11 posted on 06/06/2012 7:45:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

No. Global warming/cooling is a perfectly natural process. The Sun, volcanoes, asteroids. The BS is Anthropogenic Global Warming.


12 posted on 06/06/2012 7:48:17 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: presidio9
1815 eruption of Mount Tambora

Year Without a Summer

13 posted on 06/06/2012 7:51:10 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: presidio9
Humanity and most of the latest iterations of Earthly flora and fauna? Maybe soon but inevitably yes. It's happened many times before. But "The World"? Not unless God decides to allow the Sun to go grossly unstable or something wicked and very big comes this way.

Best to remember that we're all here for less than a speck of the larger picture of time and that no one or anything living gets out of here alive. Mortal coils are just that, squishy and vulverable vehicles made up mostly of water. But not to worry. We are souls and we have bodies and squatters' rights to this realm on a very short term lease.

14 posted on 06/06/2012 7:51:16 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: presidio9
We're doomed!

Time for another trillion$ government spending on welfare "entitlements."

That cures everything!

< /sarc >

15 posted on 06/06/2012 7:53:03 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: presidio9

“global suicide lurking right below our feet?”

OK, here is what is behind this article: a bunch of vulcanologist are having a hard time finding employment.

What if YOU devoted 12 years to studying volcanoes and now need to pay student loans while your parents are wondering when you will move out of the basement?

SO, you write papers about the new GLOBAL CATASTROPHE AT ANY MOMENT from exploding mountains.

But wait! We don’t have enough information about the GLOBAL CATASTROPHE AT ANY MOMENT!

Quick! We must hire as many vulcanologists to study the impending doom as the Federal budget will permit!

This tactic is just like the Killer Bees, H1N1, mass extinction of sharks and global warming and ozone depletion scare — employment insurance for obscure science.


16 posted on 06/06/2012 7:54:45 PM PDT by garjog
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To: presidio9

What was Algore thinking when he invented volcanos???


17 posted on 06/06/2012 7:55:41 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: katana

Mortal coils are just that, squishy and vulverable vehicles made up mostly of water.

That's the chemist's view of biology. A physicist would say that we're almost entirely empty space.

18 posted on 06/06/2012 7:57:07 PM PDT by presidio9 (REDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUM)
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To: presidio9

Rev 8:5

And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

Jam 5:3

Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

Rev 14:18

And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.


19 posted on 06/06/2012 8:01:15 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: presidio9
That's the chemist's view of biology. A physicist would say that we're almost entirely empty space.

And you don't want to know what a cook thinks. ;)

/johnny

20 posted on 06/06/2012 8:07:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: presidio9
well luckily folks...You can avoid the hassle!......

I have just started a new business....Lava and Smoke Insurance...Plus!...If u subscribe now...I can give u free carbon credits!....

21 posted on 06/06/2012 8:11:33 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: presidio9
Related more technical thread here.
22 posted on 06/06/2012 8:19:11 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1233 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: JRandomFreeper

The Toba supereruption 70,000 years ago led to a 6-10 year volcanic winter that almost wiped out the human population worldwide, down to 10,000 souls or 1,000 breeding pairs. This bottleneck in the population still shows up in the genes of everyone on earth and was a puzzle until gene researchers compared notes with geologists.


23 posted on 06/06/2012 8:21:32 PM PDT by DJtex
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To: garjog

oh Jeez!...if that makes the MSM u are a dead man walking!...if the black suits visit you...tell them u were drunk and the dog must have wrote it!...Pay the dogs fine and promise to tape his mouth!


24 posted on 06/06/2012 8:21:40 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: presidio9

This Is the Way the World Ends? Volcanoes Could Darken World
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and this is why we must outlaw fracking right now/sarc


25 posted on 06/06/2012 8:24:48 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: presidio9

Anything real makes global warming look trivial, which is why liberals shouldn’t be scaring us with tales of super volcanos. They can’t be blamed on man, unless some nut ties them to fracking.


26 posted on 06/06/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by pallis
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To: DJtex

Correct, except it was far more than 6-10 years.

At it’s peak, temps worldwide dropped 10 degrees Celsius.
The O14-O16 ratios trapped in ocean sediments didn’t return to what was normal for almost a thousand years!


27 posted on 06/06/2012 8:27:31 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DJtex
1,000 breeding pairs

Well, that means I come from good (and very, very busy) stock. You would think they spent all their time farming, feuding and.... stuff.

/johnny

28 posted on 06/06/2012 8:28:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Except Yellowstone.

And some places in far east Russia.<<

Jeez!..U think God doesn't know about thermodynamics and the need for Vents??...He wrote the plumbing code for this joint!

29 posted on 06/06/2012 8:29:23 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: M-cubed
.He wrote the plumbing code for this joint!

That, He did. ;)

/johnny

30 posted on 06/06/2012 8:35:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fatrat

A supervolcano would throw more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than a billion automobiles.


31 posted on 06/06/2012 8:36:25 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Theoria
Second largest eruption in the world since Tambora happened 100 years ago this day! Novarupta in the Mt. Katmai area in Alaska, leading to formation of the "Valley of Ten Thousand Smokes (which have cooled and no longer smoke)" and a huge crater lake. It put out about 14 cubic miles of magma, 30 times St. Helens. It was about 2/3 the size of Krakatoa and a bit larger than the only other VE6 of the 20th Century, Pinatubo. It was so isolated then that only 10 fatalities were reported, but was so unusual was made a national monument within 6 years. I doubt 1 in 100, at least outside of Alaskans, can name the volcano with the largest eruption in the history of the US.
32 posted on 06/06/2012 8:38:16 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: pallis
They can’t be blamed on man, unless some nut ties them to fracking.

Ha, piece of cake, look for articles comparing drilling fracking wells into our full-of-lava planet to shooting your gas furnace with a handgun (unlicensed of course).

33 posted on 06/06/2012 8:40:37 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Thanks. Alaska has had several distinct glimpses of power.

Unreal:

1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami

World's Biggest Tsunami

34 posted on 06/06/2012 8:44:23 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

The second most amazing thing about that huge splash was that it was ridden by multiple survivors.


35 posted on 06/06/2012 9:09:22 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: presidio9

Blame it on Bush. Why not? The leftists have blamed him for everything from Pompei to the extinction of the dinosaur.

Volcanoes - Nature’s superfarts.


36 posted on 06/06/2012 9:12:43 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: presidio9

Remember the guidelines for what to do if the news reports a super volcano is expected to explode shortly in your general area:

- Secure valuable on your person (keys, cell phone, wallet, change, etc.) in (preferably) hard case container and keep near you.

- Loosen your collar

- Switch to loose fitting slippers or shoes that can be removed quickly

- Remove your belt and loosen the top fastener on your pants

- Sit in a comfortable chair, bending your head way over and as far down between your thighs as possible (you may need to grasp your ankles to do this)

- Kiss your ass goodbye


37 posted on 06/06/2012 9:17:17 PM PDT by Vesparado
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To: presidio9

Personally I now believe a giant meteor of burning oil will hit a huge CO2-filled super volcano and that will be it.

/sarc


38 posted on 06/06/2012 9:29:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: LiveFree99

Unless Christ returns before I die, eventually I will die.


39 posted on 06/06/2012 9:29:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: C210N
The key question is what is man doing to spur these volcanoes, and how many multiples of the total of the world’s GDP will have to be spent to stop it...

We know you're being funny - but liberals might see this and glom onto their next scam. Don't wanna give 'em any ideas now do we?

40 posted on 06/06/2012 9:30:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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To: presidio9

We are much more likely to be taken out by something man made. Nuclear power plants.


41 posted on 06/06/2012 10:08:45 PM PDT by Revel
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To: presidio9

Fire and Ice

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

Robert Frost


42 posted on 06/06/2012 10:24:40 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: JRandomFreeper

And you don't want to know what a cook thinks. ;)

Same thing the bear does, a s'pose.

43 posted on 06/06/2012 10:28:31 PM PDT by presidio9 (REDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUMREDRUM)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

44 posted on 06/06/2012 10:34:29 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Revel
We are much more likely to be taken out by something man made. Nuclear power plants.

Please elaborate.

45 posted on 06/06/2012 10:36:30 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Revel

See post 37 above. /s


46 posted on 06/07/2012 6:13:15 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: presidio9
And between the two of them the physicist is the more correct. Of course, he will also tell you that the "reality" we observe around us only "exists" because we're observing it. Which begs the question, who or what are we? Interesting stuff.
47 posted on 06/07/2012 6:13:19 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: garjog
Ever notice there are no really old volcanologists? There's a reason for that!

BTW, much more important than this fast trigger situation an earlier report of great concern was that when one of those pools of magma pushes up through cracks in the silicon crust of Earth (yup, place is like one of those big clear marbles with crazing near the surface)the rocks in the way, which were left behind the last time this happened, melt easier than surrounding rocks.

What that means is that where you know there's an ancient extinct volcano ~ maybe deep under ground, or maybe even standing there like that old volcanic core featured in Encounters of the Third King, that will melt before anything else, and boil off and just cause all sorts of volcanic like problems, but mostly it will soften up and let that magma through to ooze out and spread!

I am much less worried about a magma pool that's been squished around by a descending tectonic plate under Oregon than I am about the core of an ancient volcano in Reston VA ~ about 5 miles away!!!

48 posted on 06/07/2012 8:31:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: presidio9

I really don’t need to. There are event worse events than Japan on the horizon. And that one is far from over. There are so many ways that things can go wrong with nuclear power.

But ask yourself this. How many of those power plants are in range of Yellowstone? If such a volcano goes off then those plants will detonate in short order, Spewing radioactive waste far and wide, and there is nothing that man will be able to do about it. The environmental damage from the volcano will be the least of our problems. Even assuming no explosive damage to those plants then think about the logistics of keeping the cooling systems operating in such and environment. Ash falling 100 feet deep(soon to be radioactive ash), zero visibility, Planes unable to fly, Trucks unable to travel, ect...

The insanity of existing nuclear power plants is self evident. The probability of unrecoverable disaster is mathematically certain. Everyone just needs to think a little.


49 posted on 06/07/2012 8:48:04 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel
I really don’t need to.

Sure you do. You can start by telling me what, exactly, was so horrible about Japan.

But ask yourself this. How many of those power plants are in range of Yellowstone? If such a volcano goes off then those plants will detonate in short order,

Um, nuclear power plants don't "detonate," and if a supervolcano erupts (which even this fearmongering author admits is not likely anytime "soon") the power plants will be the leat of our problems.

The insanity of existing nuclear power plants is self evident. The probability of unrecoverable disaster is mathematically certain. Everyone just needs to think a little.

If this passes for logic in your world, I'm surprised you ever leave the house. A plague of killer rabbits is a "mathematical certainty."

50 posted on 06/07/2012 12:11:36 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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