Posted on 05/12/2012 7:44:19 AM PDT by markomalley
A memo sent out by a Republican pollster has been making the rounds online for its conclusion that the party needs to embrace gay marriage as part of its platform because of recent trends showing increased support for this important social issue. Jan van Lohuizen, who worked as a pollster for George W. Bush in 2004, made the case that the GOP should be fighting for gay marriage as a conservative issue, by emphasizing that “freedom means freedom for everyone.”
The memo contains polling data showing that not only is support of gay marriage steadily increasing with the American people at large, but that a majority of Republicans now support “extending basic legal protections to gays and lesbians” like the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and hospital visitation rights for gay and lesbian partners. Van Lohuizen stresses that this position does not mean gays and lesbians would be given special treatment, but instead ensures they are given the same protections under the law as everyone else.
“People who believe in equality under the law as a fundamental principle, as I do, will agree that this principle extends to gay and lesbian couples; gay and lesbian couples should not face discrimination and their relationship should be protected under the law. People who disagree on the fundamental nature of marriage can agree, at the same time, that gays and lesbians should receive essential rights and protections such as hospital visitation, adoption rights, and health and death benefits.”
He also explains how the GOP can frame support of gay marriage as a conservative issue.
“As people who promote personal responsibility, family values, commitment and stability, and emphasize freedom and limited government we have to recognize that freedom means freedom for everyone. This includes the freedom to decide how you live and to enter into relationships of your choosing, the freedom to live without excessive interference of the regulatory force of government.”
Oh, I quite agree...
And these viewpoints are a minority on this site
I am Really looking forward to the Return of Christ
And the Establishment of His Kingdom on this Earth
The Homosexual Agenda is Abhorrent
I would argue that the entire Byzantine Labyrinth of Regulation Is also repugnant
Their Agenda becomes unsupportable
when Inheritance Law, Forced External Contracts (Insurance),
"Ownership" of Children, is not forced by the State,
but becomes a matter of Contract Law.
Some forget that acts of Government are acts of Caesar
Government Compels, Takes, Punishes, and Kills
When You and I am not required to support the Consequences of their "Lifestyle"
Their destruction becomes an issue between them an God,
who they will meet shortly
Romans Chapter 1 is blunt on this subject (New Law)
As well as a plethora of data from Old Law
including the Seven Laws of Noah
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/seven-laws-of-noah/
Sexual transgression
All people originate from sexual relations, and so the laws which govern them are our most basic ‘constitution’, testifying to the Divine origin of humankind. Non-Jews are not commanded to marry, but they are encouraged to do so, and they are forbidden to have relations with the wife of another man. Male homosexuality, incest and bestial relations are also forbidden under the same heading, even though the desires for them are very different.
Hmmm...
Must think on this position
Under Judaic Law, the Laws of Sexuality are the most basic "Constitution"
If they do then i will just stay home, what would be the point in voting?
A Democrat Sodom versus a Republican Sodom.
What the S.O.B.s do not understand is that the government should not have to grant a Incense or permit or embrace any particular action for any one to be free.
If some one hates God so much that they will take up Sodomy or what ever it is that queers do is called to show their hate toward God who is to stop them? they are free to do it other wise it would not be happening.
What gives the Government the right to force every one to accept the anti God lifestyle? the government has never in my life or any of my ancestors lives that i know about forced any one to except God, so what right do they have to force people to except the anti god ?
No way.
Are there any limits? Should brothers be free to wed each other? How about multiple spouse's of both sexes? Or, should we be free to marry a dolphin? A rabbit? Or a spruce tree?
The first amendment vote in NC had 2-1 support from blacks. Can’t be good for Obama.
If you saw the neighbor boy trying to mate with a knothole in the fence, or his cat, you’d scream and demand that he get therapy. But if he tries to mate with the anal canal of another male, it’s OK. Trying to mate with another male’s anal canal is as insane as trying to mate with a knothole or cat. What kind of baby are they trying to produce.....a pencil?
We shall see many illustrations of the corrosive effect of the upcoming Romney nomination, such as this one.
Slowly but surely, what the “G” in “GOP” stands for is coming out of the closet.
You got that right if we can believe what the thread said then they are just going against what Georg Washington said
but actually we are too far on that road already.
Sure. The GOP should listen to a pollster who worked on both Bush campaigns where the candidate barely won losing the popular vote in 2000, and also barely won the second by 35 electoral votes and 2.5 points in the popular vote. Obviously(or not so obviously to the ITBWGOP), this is a recipe for disaster.
Amen to that, LJ!
This porker is so clever. Those arguments would trick the conservatives into permitting gay radicals to redefine marriage and family! ;) LOL
Where does GOPe get these losers? They should cease doing business with this manipulator of the manipulators.
I’m wondering about this - it’s a four minute news clip, hoping someone with more wits than I have will tell me if it’s accurate:
Reality Check: Why all RNC delegates are ‘Free Agents’ and unbound
http://www.fox19.com/story/18305604/reality-check-why-all-rnc-delegates-are-free-agents-and-unbound
If they do, I am gone and never coming back.
As will I, and to be honest the only reason I'm still around is that the alternative is sooo much worse. Man, this lesser of two evils business really sucks.
Only God knows. I say we try to turn back while there’s hope for our kids and grandkids.
Giving any of the sick bastards the right of marriage leads directly to plural marriage. How could it not, you can’t in their eyes discriminate against Bisexuals by not offering them the variety of sex partners?
How can any one think that a man with two women or a woman with two men can be compared to a man with two men or a woman with two women?
It was the election results that FUBO was determined to distract us from. Witness the huge banner headline in the Times about the president’s preference.
The headline should have said The people of North Carolina reject gay marriage, and 20 percent of North Carolina Democrats voted “no preference,” and a guy behind bars with a ponytail got 41 percent of the vote in West Virgina, and Lugar is gone.
Those were my headlines.
To disregard their problems and cast them into the abyss by not treating them is an unjustifiable inhumanity.
Ron Paul is absolutely correct on this issue, get the state out of the marriage business. The right to marry is a G*d given right, one should not need to ask the state for a license to marry. Let the religious organization handle marriages like they have for hundreds/thousands of years.
Are you suggesting then that people should file their taxes as individuals instead of married couples?
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