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Top Republican Pollster Advises Party To Embrace Gay Marriage
Mediaite ^ | May 12th, 2012 | Josh Feldman

Posted on 05/12/2012 7:44:19 AM PDT by markomalley

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And I am sure the GOPe and their nominee will embrace this position (no double entendre intended)
1 posted on 05/12/2012 7:44:23 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

In other words, “Jan van Lohuizen” is gay and he wants conservatives to go against their morals and values to appease his lifestyle choice.


2 posted on 05/12/2012 7:48:05 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: markomalley

Why don’t we all just register as democrat/communists and be done with it?


3 posted on 05/12/2012 7:48:30 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: markomalley

“Jan van Lohuizen” just WHO is THIS guy?!


4 posted on 05/12/2012 7:48:52 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: markomalley
“freedom means freedom for everyone.”

Making me pay for anther's lifestyle isn't freedom.

5 posted on 05/12/2012 7:48:57 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: markomalley

No thank you.


6 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:04 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Article 58)
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To: markomalley

Yeah, the vote in North Carolina shows how much supporting the true definition of marriage is a loosing position. Get real!


7 posted on 05/12/2012 7:49:36 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: markomalley

If you saw the neighbor boy trying to mate with a knothole in the fence, or his cat, you’d scream and demand that he get therapy. But if he tries to mate with the anal canal of another male, it’s OK. Trying to mate with another male’s anal canal is as insane as trying to mate with a knothole or cat. What kind of baby are they trying to produce.....a pencil?


8 posted on 05/12/2012 7:51:21 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: markomalley

After Obama lost all those points for supporting gay marriage?

On my local talk station, there was a black fellow who was an ardent supporter of Obama who turned completely against him once Obama began supporting gay marriage. He said it was completely against everything Christian and proved to him that Obama never really believed in God.


9 posted on 05/12/2012 7:51:21 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: markomalley
"support of gay marriage steadily increasing"

Is there a Complete Disconnect between Everyone in DC, and the American Public? 30-plus states say this guy is wrong!

10 posted on 05/12/2012 7:51:35 AM PDT by radioone (No dogs were harmed in the writing of this response.)
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To: markomalley
And I am sure the GOPe and their nominee will embrace this position

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11 posted on 05/12/2012 7:51:52 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: markomalley

Mediate is a left wing operation. Run by former head of MSDNC
Named Abrams .
Believe nothing from that website .


12 posted on 05/12/2012 7:52:38 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: markomalley

We are never going to win this war in the gay media. Also, this is just another bogus non-issue intended to deflect attention from failed economic & fiscal policies.

My advice to the GOP is not to “embrace” (yuk!) gay marriage but to mokusatsu the issue. Don’t go fight your enemy on his home field, make him fight on yours.


13 posted on 05/12/2012 7:52:45 AM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: markomalley

Gays are free to marry like everybody else. They should be able to marry a person of other gender, like everybody else. But gays don’t want to marry. They want something else.


14 posted on 05/12/2012 7:53:01 AM PDT by sagar
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To: US Navy Vet
“Jan van Lohuizen” just WHO is THIS guy?!

Some fag I guess.

15 posted on 05/12/2012 7:53:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: markomalley; All
Slowly but surely, what the "G" in "GOP" stands for is coming out of the closet.

Click here if you're interested in checking out a party that remains true to the natural law moral basis of this free republic.

16 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: markomalley
This is a good illustration of what has been wrong with the beltway GOP the last, oh, twentyfive years. Idiot pollster pushing his personal agenda as if it is what the country wants. Idiot pols believing it.
17 posted on 05/12/2012 7:54:41 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: markomalley; wardaddy

If Holy Matrimony is a Lost Cause, well, that’s a hill I’ll fight and die on.

Some causes are worth fighting for, even some lost causes.

And damn the turncoats, sellouts and jellyspines to hell.

Their kind was also plentiful in other eras. In WW2, they were called Quislings.


18 posted on 05/12/2012 7:55:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: radioone
Is there a Complete Disconnect between Everyone in DC, and the American Public?

No, we at least have a GOP POTUS nominee that is severely conservative.

19 posted on 05/12/2012 7:55:41 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: markomalley
It all began when the government putting itself in the position where it defines what marriage is, after it put itself in the charity and social services business- none of which is a legitimate Constitutional function of our government.
20 posted on 05/12/2012 7:56:57 AM PDT by Red6
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To: markomalley
They already have.

Does anyone really believe Romney when he says that he's against gay marriage, given his previous history on gay agenda issues?

Elections are the ultimate polls. Gay marriage has lost every time it's put before the people, even in Blue states. The Left has not been very successful in their efforts to tie "gay marriage" with larger liberty issues.

21 posted on 05/12/2012 7:58:02 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: markomalley

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


22 posted on 05/12/2012 7:58:29 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: markomalley
Hey, I took a poll in 2006 and discovered that when your party is overrun with an homosexual RNC chairman, a gay Republican senator who made his news by trying to pick up guys at a public toilet in Minneapolis, and Congressman Mark Foley chasing around after Congressional pages, and others ~ particularly the staff people Speaker Hastert depended on to investigate such matters (they were also gay, and lord knows, maybe the Speaker was too given the way he dealt with the questions), THE PUBLIC WILL THROW US OUT OF CONGRESS

Jan van Lohuizen is politically unrealistic. The fact that somebody like this can take propaganda like that so close to the top levels of the party so fast suggests that getting rid of the 2006 crowd didn't eliminate the problem at all.

BTW, this is coming hot on the heels of the North Carolina vote IN FAVOR OF NO GAY MARRIAGE.

23 posted on 05/12/2012 7:59:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EQAndyBuzz

My thoughts exactly. Kinda like Jonathan Capehart of the WAPO embracing Gay Marriage. DUHHH!


24 posted on 05/12/2012 7:59:16 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: blueunicorn6

“If you saw the neighbor boy trying to mate with a knothole in the fence, or his cat, you’d scream and demand that he get therapy. But if he tries to mate with the anal canal of another male, it’s OK. Trying to mate with another male’s anal canal is as insane as trying to mate with a knothole or cat. What kind of baby are they trying to produce.....a pencil?”

Frankly, arguments like these are not helping. First, they will point out that animal sex is different than human. Second, since you are too fixated on the anal part, which will be ridiculed. Third, you assume sex is about “producing” babies, which will get your labeled as a nut, fair or not.

I think the logical and valid argument against homosexual marriage is what Ron Paul proposes. Just get rid of the government involvement in marriage! When you hand the marriage power back to the churches/religious groups, they will define what it is. And homo groups’ definition of their own version of the marriage will be pointless.


25 posted on 05/12/2012 7:59:47 AM PDT by sagar
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To: markomalley

jobs, taxes, jobs, spending, jobs, borrowing, jobs, regulation.

That is what the GOP should campaign on.

Contraception, gay marriage, global warming, war in the Sudan, polar bears and baby seals are distractions we should not get into either pro or con.


26 posted on 05/12/2012 8:00:06 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: markomalley

When will the pedophiles demand marriage to babies?

Then come marriage to animals.

There goes all morals and that’s the end, folks!


27 posted on 05/12/2012 8:01:37 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
In other words, “Jan van Lohuizen” is gay and he wants conservatives to go against their morals and values to appease his lifestyle choice.

That or he's a scumbag rat masquerading as a "Republican pollster".

28 posted on 05/12/2012 8:01:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: markomalley

The particular GOP Jackass ought to be informed that engineered polls of a few thousand may indeed show that but the millions who have voted on this very subject in 32 states are 65-35 AGAINST it.


29 posted on 05/12/2012 8:03:21 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: henkster

I agree that the GOP should not debate this issue. They should say, that there are very important public issues that need to be addressed (e.g. economy etc.) and that the private sexual lives of American citizens is not an issue for the government or politicians. They should then point out that the gay marriage issue appears to be an attempt of some to make a private issue into a political one, and to get government involved in peoples private lives.


30 posted on 05/12/2012 8:05:32 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: markomalley

Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, and merits no special rights under the law.


31 posted on 05/12/2012 8:05:35 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: EGPWS

Two days ago the Washington Post ran an article identifying virtually all of Romney’s big money guys as being supporters of gay marriage, et al. I referenced that article last evening ~ it’s at http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-treads-lightly-on-gay-marriage-issue/2012/05/10/gIQAk4LtGU_story.html


32 posted on 05/12/2012 8:05:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lancey Howard

His claim is to doing work for Bush ~


34 posted on 05/12/2012 8:07:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Red6
This is the issue with the GOP at large.

It's a party devoid of principals and it's all about the party, not the nation, an idea, or some principals. The GOP will jump onto the big government bandwagon, sign up on gay rights, or support measures that go against the most basic Constitutional rights (Patriot Act) because at the end of the day it's simply about winning an election, not a principal.

The US GOP has devolved to a Euro style conservative party (Sort of like the German CDU). A big government party that simply embraces a few free market ideas, some minor social conservative ideas, and a more pro defense position.

35 posted on 05/12/2012 8:08:51 AM PDT by Red6
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To: markomalley

I never heard of this idiot before...I doubt he is a top pollster...


36 posted on 05/12/2012 8:09:29 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: markomalley

I don’t think there’s much doubt that this guy is a closet gay activist.

According to an article at Daily Kos that I found in a Bing search, he “teamed up” with the Obama’s leading pollster and top campaign adviser to find these results. The rest of the media seem to have omitted that odd point, since this “news” obviously sounds better coming from a GOPer.

The Daily Kos article is at:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/27/999468/-Obama-Bush-s-Pollsters-Team-Up-To-Crunch-Marriage-Equality-Polls

But I don’t recommend anyone giving them a hit unless you disbelieve me.


37 posted on 05/12/2012 8:10:20 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: markomalley
the party needs to embrace gay marriage as part of its platform because of recent trends showing increased support for this important social issue.

They keep harping on the dubious "fact" that support for queer marriage is at about 50% but in the 30 plus states where it's been voted on the numbers are more like 2 or 3 to 1 against it.

Figures don't lie but liars do figure.

38 posted on 05/12/2012 8:11:29 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: hinckley buzzard; All
The queer mafia includes every brand of pervert in their demands for special rights, GLBT, and wont separate any of them from the group.

One of those is Bisexuals.

Giving any of the sick bastards the right of marriage leads directly to plural marriage. How could it not, you can't in their eyes discriminate against Bisexuals by not offering them the variety of sex partners?

39 posted on 05/12/2012 8:13:14 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: markomalley

Never heard of the guy. Why am I supposed to fawn over the pronouncements of a spineless nobody.


40 posted on 05/12/2012 8:13:17 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: markomalley

Never heard of the guy. Why am I supposed to fawn over the pronouncements of a spineless nobody?


41 posted on 05/12/2012 8:13:35 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: blueunicorn6
Trying to mate with another male’s anal canal is as insane as trying to mate with a knothole or cat

There's a reason they are called queers. If that isn't queer, I don't know what is.

42 posted on 05/12/2012 8:13:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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43 posted on 05/12/2012 8:14:01 AM PDT by narses
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To: markomalley
My Libertarian nature would argue that persons can
enter into contracted bonded relationships of their own definition,
and remove the Government from the issue,
except to enforce the Contract.

This includes external contracts, such as insurance
The Government should not involved at all,
one way or the other

This pulls the thorn out of the Paw
and removes the ability of others
to define Society in their Own Image

I understand the Societal Benefit of Marriage as a
stable productive unit for the raising of Children
And protecting those who are rendered dependent by pregnancy
This is obvious, but

It is a matter between individuals.

Freepers tend to be divided on
Statist Conservative / Libertarian Conservative Issues,
this is one that cuts to the core

Moral Acts Enforced by Law Cease to be Moral Acts

I, however would never blame someone for "Disagreeing"

44 posted on 05/12/2012 8:16:08 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: markomalley

There shouldn’t be any debate on this issue: marriage is one man, one woman, and anything else is barbarism. And it is not an accident that there are gay moles in both parties pushing this agenda:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”


45 posted on 05/12/2012 8:16:08 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: markomalley

Gay marriage is inconsequential to our immediate future. Why doesn’t Obama advocate the marriage of the fathers of the 70% illegitimate afro-americans to the women they donated their seed. Then they could raise these children as a family and get them off the dole. Now that would have wonderful consequences for this country!


46 posted on 05/12/2012 8:18:31 AM PDT by The Old Commander (Anyone who votes for Obama is either delusional or a moron)
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To: US Navy Vet

Jan van Lohuizen earned his Ph.D. in Political Science from Rice University in 1978. He has been in the polling business ever since.

In the 1980s, he worked for two of the leading Republican polling firms and spent two years as the opinion research director for the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

In 1991, he founded his own firm, Voter/Consumer Research. He served as President George W. Bush’s pollster in both of his presidential election campaigns. He is highly regarded by political professionals in both parties.

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-07-12/politics/30075801_1_2nd-debate-straw-poll-michele-bachmann#ixzz1ufXkOYsY

There is also a photo which practically screams ‘could I be more gay?’


47 posted on 05/12/2012 8:19:58 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: markomalley
embrace gay marriage
The very phrase makes me shudder.
48 posted on 05/12/2012 8:21:31 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: henkster

I am not sure that you are right and rather think that the republicans could win big on this issue if they are smart and articulate enough to make their point.

It’s a matter of real equality , respect of nature(true ecology ! Where are the “green” ? ) and defence of children.
A sane society can’t recognize homosexuality as normal or equal to union between man and woman or it will destroy its own foundation commiting a crime against nature, reason and God


49 posted on 05/12/2012 8:21:41 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: markomalley

...a Republican pollster has been making the rounds online for its conclusion that the party needs to embrace gay marriage as part of its platform. ___________________________________________________________

When the GOP forsakes pro-family values, social conservatives will forsake the GOP. The party will go the way of the Whigs.


50 posted on 05/12/2012 8:23:28 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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