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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.


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To: TheOldLady

The only thing about that hair is if you had the ability in 1980+ let it grow. (Black hair??? ALL your base...)


1,101 posted on 04/27/2012 7:20:01 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: A.Hun; gusty

The circumstances of Romney’s decisions is that he is a lifelong dedicated lefty, that reversed his public positions when it was time to go for president.

It is taboo to take the circumstances of a politician’s decisions into account here nowadays, but you can’t understand those decisions without the context.

For me, knowing the truth is the basis of conservatism.

It ticks a lot of people off....


1,102 posted on 04/27/2012 7:20:01 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: BunnySlippers

Carry on then. Got a pretty wife in there wondering what could be so important that I delay coming to bed with her.

Keep a level head and a keen eye out.

Good night.


1,103 posted on 04/27/2012 7:21:45 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: gusty

Ain’t that the truth!


1,104 posted on 04/27/2012 7:22:37 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: alicewonders
I cannot understand how leaving the Presidential ballot "blank" or writing in Sarah Palin, or Newt, or voting for someone in the Constitutional Party -

Is it really that hard for you to understand not wanting to vote for the Democrat Lite candidate?

If you feel that you must vote RINO over Commie ok, But it isn't that hard to see the dilemma some face. You are very flip about like most hackneyed ABO voters.

1,105 posted on 04/27/2012 7:23:24 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: McLynnan
A few shrieking, tattletale banshees, operating with the approval of the owner and moderators, spend their days and nights on patrol enforcing the one site/one mind rule. They have managed to run off just about anybody with a brain (or a dollar.) They are at it on this very thread. They remind me of high school mean girls and have turned internet bullying into a blood sport. New posters are welcomed with scorn and ridicule and accused of being trolls just because they haven’t been here since day one. That’s a great way to attract new people.

This is a major problem here and after a thousand posts today it still isn't being addressed by the one person that can stop it.

1,106 posted on 04/27/2012 7:23:24 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Thank you.

LLS


1,107 posted on 04/27/2012 7:23:38 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: W-Girl
I realize the purpose of this thread is to raise money so let me express my views on the finances here.

First, you need to learn what an LLC is.

Second, it is NUNYA (none of your business in case you live in Rio Linda)

Third, you can leave anytime you want to let the door knob great you on the way out.

Fourth you insult FReepers buy calling them czars?

Fifth, see you next Tuesday ;)

1,108 posted on 04/27/2012 7:26:45 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

I will likely donate half my tithes for this month when my $361 social security check posts on my bank.

I’m still praying about it, however as there’s a lot of other things seeking the same measley amount.

And . . . welll I’m praying about it.

I sometimes get tired of being treated with undeserved hostility and disrespect by a couple of the mods who seem to hate me with a blood lust level of hostility.


1,109 posted on 04/27/2012 7:26:45 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: W-Girl

The -2.5?

You are standing approxiamtely 7 feet behind me while I try my best to get them before they get you.

LOL

reload


1,110 posted on 04/27/2012 7:27:00 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: A.Hun

I’m with you.


1,111 posted on 04/27/2012 7:27:45 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Some of these trolls just don’t get it do they?


1,112 posted on 04/27/2012 7:29:07 PM PDT by sanescold (Time for the Hut cleaning!)
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To: W-Girl; Jim Robinson; onyx; DJ MacWoW
You are wrong, wrong, wrong. I believe in Jim Robinson, and in the purity that is Conservatism.

You (and others on this thread) obviously believe that it is OK to compromise on true values and that it is not only acceptable to do so, but actually preferable when it comes to politics.

I contribute to Free Republic BECAUSE I believe in being associated with those who support pro-life, pro-marriage (between one man and one woman), and those who support the 2nd Amendment and a restricted and limited government at all levels, among other issues. I WILL NOT compromise on matters of faith and morals.

Just what do you believe in? Do you think that it is important to drop everything, including support of Free Republic, because we must now concede -- in April of an election year -- to a liar like Mitt Romney all because he appears to be the ONLY alternative to the worst POTUS in memory? And you feel you can now attack the owner of this site with impunity, all because you happen to favor appeasement and concession, rather than fighting for issues that are absolutely the foundation of our life and freedoms? Really now.

What do you believe in and are you willing to fight and/or even die for your God-given inalienable freedoms?

1,113 posted on 04/27/2012 7:29:16 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: ansel12
is that he is a lifelong dedicated lefty

As I understand it, he has been a business man for the majority of his life, with one term as governor for a political life. How can you make such a broad statement based on one term?

Also, name one politician that hasn't changed positions to garner votes....one that has actually been elected to a statewide or national post.

How would you have viewed Reagan...an ex democrat and union leader? Do you believe men cannot become more conservative as they age?

1,114 posted on 04/27/2012 7:31:48 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Quix

I’ll be trying to keep up! Only money quiets the squeaky wheal!


1,115 posted on 04/27/2012 7:32:35 PM PDT by sanescold (Time for the Hut cleaning!)
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To: gusty

Thanks!


1,116 posted on 04/27/2012 7:33:06 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Raider Sam
>> Can you define Marxist? <<

Marxist [MARK-sist]: 1. a devotée of Karl Marx; 2. a millionaire Bishop of the LDS Church; 3. one who shops at Marks & Spencer; 4. one who subscribes to the doctrines of historical determinism and dialectical materialism (q. v.); 5. one who favors the abolition of private property and the government ownership of all economic assets; 6. any Massachusetts politician who speaks fluent French; 7. a fan of Groucho Marx (obs.). Compare: Communist, LDS, Bolshevik, Menshevik, Socialist, Progressive, Utopianism, Mormon, Venture Capitalist, Kerry, Romney.

1,117 posted on 04/27/2012 7:33:55 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: vox_freedom; W-Girl; Jim Robinson; onyx

What I will never understand is the need for attention. If someone disapproves of something, why not be an adult and simply walk away? This absolutely sounds like a leftist screed. “I don’t understand the finances and I don’t like what’s being said so destroy it!” Total liberal mindset.


1,118 posted on 04/27/2012 7:34:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: vox_freedom; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

I do not believe

personally

that a single authentically conservative FREEPER

wants to or is compromising

a SINGLE CORE CONSERVATIVE VALUE

WE ALL STILL FIERCLY SUPPORT:

1. THE CONSTITUTION
2. THE REPUBLIC AND STATES RIGHTS
3. BEARING ARMS
4. FREEDOM OF RELIGION VS FROM RELIGION
5. RIGHT TO LIFE
6. SMALL GOVERNMENT
7. FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE PRESS
8. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
9. NO SURRENDER OF SOVEREIGNTY TO GLOBALISM
10. UN OUT OF THE USA
11. NO SATANISM
12. NO ISLAM TAKING OVER THE USA; NO SHARIA LAW
13. ETC.

NO ONE I KNOW ON FR is anything but wholeheartedly behind and in support of those CORE CONSERVATIVE VALUES.

Claiming otherwise is untrue, inaccurate, cheeky and foolish.


1,119 posted on 04/27/2012 7:34:58 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: sanescold

I don’t think the money issues are the most important part of this thread.

This is about

OUR COMMUNITY.

Either we will be a stronger COMMUNITY afterwards

or

we’ll be more fractured and burned at the stake.


1,120 posted on 04/27/2012 7:36:51 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: alicewonders
you people want to take your precious vote, that countless heroes shed blood for you to have....you want to throw that vote away on somebody that cannot defeat Obama

Yes, that's exactly what they propose to do. I stand with you, our right to vote was bought with the blood and treasure of generations past and present and mine will not be wasted so I can join a group temper tantrum in cyberspace.

1,121 posted on 04/27/2012 7:37:18 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Quix; vox_freedom

Please read what vox_freedom is responding to.


1,122 posted on 04/27/2012 7:37:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Quix

I completely agree.

LLS


1,123 posted on 04/27/2012 7:37:59 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: FReepers

Donate here!



1,124 posted on 04/27/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’d appreciate a post number, please.

I can sometimes miss construe posts and referent posts etc.


1,125 posted on 04/27/2012 7:41:42 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ladyvet
This is a major problem here and after a thousand posts today it still isn't being addressed by the one person that can stop it

My theory has long been that perhaps deep pockets buy special privileges. If that isn't the case, we can only hope that when bludgeoned over the head by the same complaint over and over again a sense of self preservation will set in. I have always avoided that clique like the plague.

1,126 posted on 04/27/2012 7:42:44 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: mojitojoe

Vinegar on fries is awesome!

Lemon works too, particularly with Mediterranean food


1,127 posted on 04/27/2012 7:42:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LibLieSlayer

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS and a great reality check.


1,128 posted on 04/27/2012 7:43:23 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: bigheadfred
LOL....I had you pegged as an arshoe a long time ago, guess I was right after all.
1,129 posted on 04/27/2012 7:44:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Quix
NO ONE I KNOW ON FR is anything but wholeheartedly behind and in support of those CORE CONSERVATIVE VALUES.
Claiming otherwise is untrue, inaccurate, cheeky and foolish.

You obviously haven't read the same comments on multiple threads I've seen over the past many months.

So you haven't run into any Ron Paul bots over the past year? You haven't read any comments by Romney-ites who were then discovered and banned? Claiming that you've never ever seen such comments on Free Republic is untrue, inaccurate, cheeky and foolish.

1,130 posted on 04/27/2012 7:44:10 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Quix
No problem. :-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2877089/posts?page=1057#1057

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2877089/posts?page=1088#1088

1,131 posted on 04/27/2012 7:44:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: McLynnan

I’ve never observed that cults have a great deal of constructive influence on the body politic, on the Nation, on the planet.

Cults increasingly become in-grown, myopic, full of back-biting, prissy rigid narrowness, brittle, fractured, irrational and full of intense hostility toward ALL OUT-GROUP individuals regardless of how similar etc.

FR will either become LESS cult-like or MORE cult-like after this.


1,132 posted on 04/27/2012 7:46:39 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: TheOldLady

What you fail to understand is that conservatism is *NOT* defined by *YOU*.

Therefore, if you read something you don’t like, it doesn’t suddenly cease to be conservative.

And thus, trying to zot the member who posted it doesn’t mean the poster wasn’t conservative.


1,133 posted on 04/27/2012 7:47:54 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: W-Girl; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; ...

That is my compensation plus Amy’s and Chris’ who works here part time helping me and learning the ropes (ie, Management and Administration) plus a part of our related payroll tax expenses.

I’m sure there are probably others who might be able to run a site as large as FR for fewer bucks (maybe), but they’ll probably need to be independently wealthy if they don’t take compensation and thus they’re probably not really interested in running a donor based grassroots organization. Nor will they put in the hours I do.

Thank you very much!!

Woo hoo!!

And this just in:

$366.00 from Michigan
$50.00 from North Carolina

Thank you very much, Michigan and North Carolina!!

And we’re now over THIRTY-TWO percent!!

With that, we’re going to dinner. Will bbl.

OPEN ALL NIGHT!!


1,134 posted on 04/27/2012 7:48:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: mojitojoe

Dammit people are always wanting stuff their way!

Life shouldn’t be this hard! LOL!


1,135 posted on 04/27/2012 7:51:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: vox_freedom

Wrong.

I work very hard to post the truth as I see it, know it and have experienced it.

I have NOT seen posts contrary to those core values by anyone I consider an authentic CONSERVATIVE FREEPER.

Actually, I don’t RECALL seeing any by anyone.

No, it IS TRUE, that I’ve greatly reduced my reading and posting on FR.

I’ve been forceably restricted to posting almost only about things that are not of great spiritual or END TIMES importance to me so I don’t spend as much time here as I used to. So it’s plausible that I’ve missed such posts.

However, I think the spirit and gist of my post still stands.

THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF FREEPERS ON FR ARE AUTHENTIC CONSERVATIVES WHO MORE OR LESS WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT OUR CORE VALUES.

I’ll continue to believe that until I OBSERVE otherwise.

Narrow, rigid, prissy, tunnel-visioned folks do not define reality for me. They can distort reality 6 ways to Sunday if they wish. I don’t take THEIR distortions on as my own.


1,136 posted on 04/27/2012 7:52:32 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: McLynnan; Jim Robinson
I’m sad to see what FR has become and truly miss what it used to be. If I get zotted for speaking my mind that is fine, I don’t post anymore and rarely read the comments because who wants to read the same thought over and over again. There isn’t any free speech on FR these days and I am not into having free opinion stifled. Reading the same “approved” opinions over and over again is boring.

Ditto!!!

I have not read the entire thread. I cannot. TOO painful. I found this post which expresses my felling very well and will tag a few thoughts on.

I LOVED this place for a very long time and once said that I had never met a Freeper I didn't like. You, your wife, and son are among those folks Jim and nothing has changed in that regard as far as you are concerned but, sad as it is, those days are gone and it saddens me more than you can imagine. I very much preferred the FR of 1998 (flame wars and all) to the FR of today. Back then this was a crucible where ideas of every stripe were melted down and refined. Today it is nothing more than a boring echo chamber and I have rarely posted on the main forum for quite some time now.

This place belongs to you Jim and you have every right to do with it as you wish. I have never said anything other than that from day one but I must confess to you that I no longer find FR WORTH contributing to sad as that is. And one more thing before I go. I don't like Mitt Romney any better than you do but I WILL vote for him in November! The alternative is just too horrible to contemplate.

If you are in a bannin mood it would appear that you have lot of work to do.

1,137 posted on 04/27/2012 7:53:01 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Quix

Thanks for stating the truth so eloquently.

LLS


1,138 posted on 04/27/2012 7:53:25 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: onyx; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; trisham; musicman; The Cajun; JoeProBono; Lady Jag; STARWISE; MEG33; ..
Jim just posted:

Thank you very much!!

Woo hoo!!

And this just in:

$366.00 from Michigan
$50.00 from North Carolina

Thank you very much, Michigan and North Carolina!!

And were now over THIRTY-TWO percent!!

1,139 posted on 04/27/2012 7:56:03 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: MizSterious

Guess a moderator just got revealed...


1,140 posted on 04/27/2012 7:56:15 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Those are certainly intense posts.

I guess I’ll need to reread the response to them.

My own point about those posts would be

HEALTHY ORGANIZATIONS HANDLE SUCH FEEDBACK GRACIOUSLY AND CONSTRUCTIVELY. They take whatever %% of truth out of them and grow from the input.

Unhealthy organizations shoot the messenger.

That’s just a fact that any Organizational Development PhD would tell you is true of all types of organizations.


1,141 posted on 04/27/2012 7:56:50 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wagglebee

I’m not here to defend Romney but i do live in MA and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that Romney had NOTHING to do with gay marriage in MA. It was implemented by the courts over his objections. PERIOD.


1,142 posted on 04/27/2012 7:58:29 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Quix

Brother, yours was just the reply to get into the thread with. You sound like you have your priorities straight. I’ll pray for you if you do the same for me. God Bless and good night!


1,143 posted on 04/27/2012 7:59:33 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: Bigun

Too bad he doesn’t really give a crap what you think. He posted money coming in and went to dinner.


1,144 posted on 04/27/2012 8:00:00 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: A.Hun
As I understand it, he has been a business man for the majority of his life, with one term as governor for a political life. How can you make such a broad statement based on one term? Also, name one politician that hasn't changed positions to garner votes....one that has actually been elected to a statewide or national post. How would you have viewed Reagan...an ex democrat and union leader?

Wow, all the cliches.

Romney did not vote for President Reagan he would not even register republican and was from a famously liberal republican family, he bragged that his mother ran as a pro-abortion Senate candidate, his father was the anti-war presidential candidate in 1968. Romney eventually started devoting all of his donations and fund raising solely to Democrat candidates, and voted for Tsongas in 1992. Following that time, even after he RE-REGISTERED REPUBLICAN TO ENTER MASSACHUSETTS POLITICS Romney campaigned as the anti-Reagan, the anti-’Jesse Helms types’, against the Contract with America, and was fund raising for Planned Parenthood. Romney was rabidly pro-gay, and antigun.
Romney is a dedicated lifelong, anti-conservative, he and his anti-war, presidential candidate father stormed off the convention floor at the 1964 Republican convention IN PROTEST AGAINST GOLDWATER’S NOMINATION. For years Romney was one of America’s most vocal, passionately pro-abortion politicians, explaining that his entire family had become dedicatedly pro-abortion in 1963.

Changing or massaging an issue or two is totally different than at age 59 in preparation to run in a different election, suddenly reversing ALL of your lifelong political positions, try to imagine any politician pulling off that trick or being in a position to need to do it to run to LEAD his chosen party.

You mean Captain Reagan who by the second half of the 1940s was already starting to be seen as a communist fighting conservative, testifying to Congress and naming names, working with the FBI, having to carry a gun for self defense from the left, Reagan?

The Reagan after 1948 was campaigning for Republicans like Eisenhower, who he campaigned for in 1952 and again in 1956, and then campaigned for Nixon against JFK in 1960, already having earned a reputation as an active speaker for conservatism for years?

The Reagan who formally registered Republican in 1962 and spoke at the Goldwater convention in 1964? The one that Mitt and his father stormed out of in formal protest against conservatism?

Reagan was famous for his conservatism before the Vietnam War, and the Great Society, Roe V Wade, the abortion wars, Jimmy Carter, decades of Cold War defeats, and the radical 1960s, before the Reagan Revolution and the Contract with America, and Clinton, and the Gore election of 2000, Mitt Romney would not even register Republican during the Reagan Presidency or vote for him. Romney, at almost age 60, had a stroke (or something) and suddenly, unexplainedly, became a totally different person around 2006, merely to run for national office.

Reagan and Romney have nothing in common.

1,145 posted on 04/27/2012 8:00:14 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: W-Girl; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; JoeProBono; RedMDer
Jim Just Posted!!!

Thank you very much!!

Woo hoo!!

And this just in:

$366.00 from Michigan
$50.00 from North Carolina

Thank you very much, Michigan and North Carolina!!

And were now over THIRTY-TWO percent!!

With that, were going to dinner. Will bbl.

OPEN ALL NIGHT!!

1,146 posted on 04/27/2012 8:00:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: FReepers; onyx; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; trisham; musicman; The Cajun; JoeProBono; Lady Jag; ...
This is Free Republic!
We are The Resistance!!


The Place for Conservatives
Thank you very much, Michigan and North Carolina!!
And we’re now over THIRTY-TWO percent!!
WooHoo! Thank you donors! Lets roll!

WooHoo!!


1,147 posted on 04/27/2012 8:00:47 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Quix

The owner responded politely.


1,148 posted on 04/27/2012 8:02:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Second Amendment First

Actually contribution are pretty much on for 45 days. FR usually will raise $65,000 to 70 thousand in about 30 days with no sweat, and the last $25 thousand to 90+ grand will take 15 days. The last one took a little longer but was still successful at raising the operating funds.


1,149 posted on 04/27/2012 8:02:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Quix

And, if anyone needs to be zotted, it’s the ‘I’m god-like’-mods who have let power go to their inflated heads and zot fingers.

SOMETIMES it SEEMS like their greatest claim to glory and their greatest pride is convincing themselves that they’ve successfully played Jim like a piano against the FREEPERS they personally despise for mysterious reasons.
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There are some good mods and some bad ones, one in particular needs to be kicked to the curb and I think most know who that is.


1,150 posted on 04/27/2012 8:03:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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