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Mary Matalin on Rush today - and is she off base? (Stunned)
4-23-2012 | Self

Posted on 04/23/2012 9:30:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright

FREEPER COMMENTS REQUESTED: Is it just me, or is Mary Matalin way off base today with her entire theme for the show (guest hosting for Rush). Now I normally like her work tremendously, but her idea that we should search for "virtue" in government and for "virtuous people" to be in government seems extremely naive.

The only virtue in government is its limit. We will never get a government full of virtuous people. By definition, government is power and virtuous people are not drawn to that. Our Founders knew that. This is why they insisted on LIMITED government. Wake up Mary!


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To: C. Edmund Wright

Recognized the voice and immediately turned it off. Life’s too short to listen to RINO drivel for three hours.


51 posted on 04/23/2012 9:54:39 AM PDT by mort56
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To: Lazlo in PA

Or Walter Williams. Mark Belling is alright but still not in the same league with Stein or Williams. The others I just turn off.


52 posted on 04/23/2012 9:54:50 AM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: juan_galt; C. Edmund Wright; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; DoughtyOne; ...
RE :”Wow! I listened for the first 5 minutes myself and thought it was just me. Thanks for sharing in my pain. My first few thoughts were:
1) Is Rush trying to kill off his audience to be more “fair” to other talk show hosts?

LOL, Just seeing this heads-up tells me not to listen in.

I remember the Rush of 15 years ago when he was growing his listenership and he much more frequently showed up for work and showed respect for his audience.

Whose next to host ? Ex Sen Alan Simpson?

53 posted on 04/23/2012 9:55:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely.)
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To: Artcore

My guess is that Rush’s contract says he has to take a certain amount of time off.

His voice has become more and more hoarse. If his voice is to last he has to take time off.

Just sayin’.


54 posted on 04/23/2012 9:55:36 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Intelligence without virtue is Bill Clinton.

Intelligence with virtue was Ronaldus Magnus.

Neither intelligence nor virtue is Odumbo.


55 posted on 04/23/2012 9:56:00 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She’s a moron. I’m switching to Mark Levin Rewinds. I sent a note to Rush, not that he’ll ever get/read it, that today’s show is c-r-a-p.


56 posted on 04/23/2012 9:56:11 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: LauraJean

Of the current crop, Mark Belling is my favrite. Mark Styne is a wet blanket...everything is doom and gloom. Too negative for me.


57 posted on 04/23/2012 9:57:31 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: All

I’m in the minority here, obviously, but I’m enjoying the show.


58 posted on 04/23/2012 9:58:30 AM PDT by upsdriver (Newt..... stop Romney, get to a brokered convention and start a DRAFT PALIN movement!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, and I wonder if asked, would she say that Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al. of their ilk are “virtuous?” My bet is that she would. Sheesh! The more I think about it, she is a naive nitwit! And Boring to Boot!


59 posted on 04/23/2012 9:58:39 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: varon

LOLOL! Well put, v! Best laugh in days.


60 posted on 04/23/2012 9:59:00 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; All
" "Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide." - John Adams

61 posted on 04/23/2012 9:59:00 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (the DNC/RNC = D.C. Establishment...Brazilian saying: $ame $h!t, W!th D!fferent Fl!e$. :^)
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To: Track9

-—Didn’t Milton Friedman say something like, ‘we should work toward a system where bad people are forced to do the right thing.’-—

Good people would be required to implement it.


62 posted on 04/23/2012 10:00:12 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: LauraJean

I like Williams and Belling too. I forgot about them.

Matlin is just terrible today. She is sooooo boring. She is just droning on with that terrible radio voice.


63 posted on 04/23/2012 10:00:25 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I think I used to like her when she and Dee Dee Myers did “Equal Time” in the 90s. Never could understand how she could be married to Carvel and haven’t paid any attention to her since those days.


64 posted on 04/23/2012 10:00:33 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She’s drunken slime. Scum like this are why democracy failed.


65 posted on 04/23/2012 10:01:20 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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To: vortigern

Carvel = Carville = Idiot


66 posted on 04/23/2012 10:01:51 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: Lancey Howard

She just said that if you are over 30 and enjoy a glass of wine, you shouldn’t have a Twitter account.

Years of living with Serpant head have taken their toll!

And now Paul Turncoat Ryan is coming on...yes, the author of “SUB-GATE”.

I’m going to give my dog a cold shower and hopefully wipe out the memory of listening to Mary for twenty minutes today.


67 posted on 04/23/2012 10:02:13 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children" Native American P.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

She sounds drunk...


68 posted on 04/23/2012 10:04:02 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children" Native American P.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Steyn apparently does long hits of nitrous oxide between air segments - he laughs and sputters for air uncontrollably through his monologues. It’s a shame because he is obviously a talented, intelligent writer but I think he’s afraid to get too heavy on the air.

Once upon a time they had a mad scramble to find a guest host and Mike McConnell, formerly of WLW Cincinnati and now of WGN Chicago, filled in. He is a solid, entertaining professional who also had a national once-a-week show thanks to his Clear Channel ties.


69 posted on 04/23/2012 10:04:28 AM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: Houghton M.

With due respect, you are just as clueless as Mary is today. Yes, I know the Founders wanted virtue - but their insurance policy against lack of virtue was LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Less government equals more virtue - and any body can figure that out. Meanwhile, how the hell are we supposed to figure out who is and who is not virtuous. Ed Gillespie, former head of the RNC, as a model for VIRTUE? GIMME A BREAK.


70 posted on 04/23/2012 10:05:11 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: sickoflibs
Whose next to host ? Ex Sen Alan Simpson?

Perhaps Jim Jeffords..?

71 posted on 04/23/2012 10:05:29 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

No change there then, unless you believe that lovers of Rush & Mrs. Rush’s mail order ice tea just happen to win the caller lottery on a daily basis.


72 posted on 04/23/2012 10:06:04 AM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Sounds like Glenn Beck’s spiel. I don’t have it on, but now I’m tempted, out of morbid curiosity.

When I heard she was hosting today, I knew it was a bad idea.


73 posted on 04/23/2012 10:06:21 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’d rather listen to Mark Steyn with duct tape over his mouth than Matalin. I would laugh just imagining what he’d be saying.


74 posted on 04/23/2012 10:07:09 AM PDT by bramps
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To: Mountain Mary
She just said that if you are over 30 and enjoy a glass of wine, you shouldn’t have a Twitter account.

Better tell Sean Hannity, honey...

75 posted on 04/23/2012 10:07:20 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: mom.mom

Hedgecock has his own show now on Radio America (3-6 PST). He was always good. I turned off Matalin within 10 seconds. She’s a bore, a moderate at best, and married to a snake.


76 posted on 04/23/2012 10:07:40 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: squarebarb
You're probably correct. I think I'm just over reacting. I guess like most, I feel like I'm missing something if Rush hasn't offered his analysis. This being said, you'd have to admit, his choice of guest hosts is beyond pathetic, and is quite insulting to his listening audience. Mark Davis (Remember he insulted the Tea Party while filling in for Rush), and Mary Matalin?!?! I'm fairly certain he does have control over who his guest hosts are. For all the yapping he does about his increased listening audience, these guest host decisions do not reflect positively on him. Look how many loyal listeners opted to tune out today.

I'll give him some slack for his voice and policy issues concerning his time off, but his guest host decisions are inexcusable!

77 posted on 04/23/2012 10:08:36 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: bramps

What’s next, Rush gets Chris Matthews to host?


78 posted on 04/23/2012 10:09:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: mamelukesabre
I agree with her, I think. I’m not listening to the show.

I'm gonna come down hard on you because you commented without listening to the show and therefore you have totally missed MY point. Yes, we should have virtuous folks in power as opposed to not virtuous - NO DUH!. But who decides what is virtue? Obama thinks he is virtuous and so do his supporters. Same for Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Nancy Pelosi. So what is this with "virtue." The safeguard, the ultimate safeguard, is LIMITED government.

79 posted on 04/23/2012 10:09:38 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Matalin’s another Peggy Noonan besides married to Serpent Head, what can you expect? She’s part of the beltway elite. When Rush is absent, I don’t listen, FWIW.


80 posted on 04/23/2012 10:09:46 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: dfwgator

Chris Matthews has hosted. (I’m guessing you already knew that ;-)


81 posted on 04/23/2012 10:12:46 AM PDT by upsdriver (Newt..... stop Romney, get to a brokered convention and start a DRAFT PALIN movement!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Lame, feel-good blather is no substitute for Rush. The root of virtually all of our problems is Liberalism, Mary.


82 posted on 04/23/2012 10:12:52 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: upsdriver

Yep, I remember that day too, truly was a WTF moment.


83 posted on 04/23/2012 10:13:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: cubreporter
No one can fill in for Rush...no one!

But some are much better than others.

84 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:15 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: upsdriver

Last caller and Mary agreed, debt is bondage. Good call.


85 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:36 AM PDT by upsdriver (Newt..... stop Romney, get to a brokered convention and start a DRAFT PALIN movement!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You attacked her for asking for virtue in government.

Cut the weaseling.


86 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:46 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Hodar
Virtue and Gov’t have as much in common as a Haddock and a cowboy hat. Benjamin Franklin, was perhaps the first International Playboy. The joke at the time was that perhaps he really was the ‘Father of the nation”. No one questions his wisdom, no one questions his value as a statesman - but he made Pres. Clinton look like a choirboy in comparison.

Take your vile, unsubstantiated and calculated slander of Franklin somewhere else, shill. Franklin was a brilliant and moral Founder of this country. Clinton raped the Oval Office along with numerous women and the entire rest of the country.

Yeah, Hillary's going to run, but shop your support-crap for her on another website.

87 posted on 04/23/2012 10:14:46 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: luvbach1

I’ll just keep the volume down until Sean comes on at 3PM.


88 posted on 04/23/2012 10:15:00 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: sickoflibs

Doesn’t matter who Rush puts on to host. Nobody here would like them anyway.

They may like them before the show, but they won’t after.

Or, they may hate them before the show and like them after or until they have to end up under the bus with the rest of the dirtbags.

Everyone is a RINO.

In fact, there are people posting here right now that were posting on threads barely a month ago that already threw Rush under the bus declaring they would never listen to him evah again!

Geesh, so funny.


89 posted on 04/23/2012 10:15:09 AM PDT by dforest
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To: relictele

-—Steyn apparently does long hits of nitrous oxide between air segments - he laughs and sputters for air uncontrollably through his monologues.-—

You put your finger on it. He’s always laughing at his own “jokes.”

I like most of Rush’s guest hosts. Roger is my favorite. Mary’s too boring. Steyn doesn’t bring much that’s substantial, if you listen carefully. We know everything sucks, Mark.


90 posted on 04/23/2012 10:15:58 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Houghton M.

No, that’s not why I made the comment. Ignorant much?


91 posted on 04/23/2012 10:16:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Mountain Mary

I wish I were drunk now. Maybe this interview would be more interesting.


92 posted on 04/23/2012 10:17:22 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
" Unless it is Mark Styne, the guest hosts suck on Rush.
I am not stunned."
yes, they do... seems his guests have carde blanke(?).. w/ no restrictions.
he's never had any NEWT supporting host (& yes, I'm happily biased :)
GO! NEWT! GO!

93 posted on 04/23/2012 10:17:43 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (the DNC / RNC = D.C. E$tabli$hment...Brazilian saying: "$@me $h!t, w!th d!fferent fl!e$". :^)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Is it just me, or is Mary Matalin way off base today with her entire theme for the show (guest hosting for Rush). Now I normally like her work tremendously, but her idea that we should search for "virtue" in government and for "virtuous people" to be in government seems extremely naive.

It's just you, but your believing this to be "extremely naive" is just a sad measure of how far things have slid since the founding:
Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
George Washington

If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779

Illustrious examples are displayed to our view, that we may imitate as well as admire. Before we can be distinguished by the same honors, we must be distinguished by the same virtues. What are those virtues? They are chiefly the same virtues, which we have already seen to be descriptive of the American character — the love of liberty, and the love of law.
James Wilson, Of the Study of the Law in the United States, Circa 1790

It is an object of vast magnitude that systems of education should be adopted and pursued which may not only diffuse a knowledge of the sciences but may implant in the minds of the American youth the principles of virtue and of liberty and inspire them with just and liberal ideas of government and with an inviolable attachment to their own country.
Noah Webster, On the Education of Youth in America

It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.
Richard Henry Lee, letter to Colonel Martin Pickett, March 5, 1786

It is necessary for every American, with becoming energy to endeavor to stop the dissemination of principles evidently destructive of the cause for which they have bled. It must be the combined virtue of the rulers and of the people to do this, and to rescue and save their civil and religious rights from the outstretched arm of tyranny, which may appear under any mode or form of government.
Mercy Warren, History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution, 1805

Nothing is more essential to the establishment of manners in a State than that all persons employed in places of power and trust must be men of unexceptionable characters.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

Religion, morality and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.
The Northwest Ordinance, July 23, 1787

Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833


94 posted on 04/23/2012 10:18:02 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: chris37
After one sycophantic call she gushed: “We're having such good calls today!”
95 posted on 04/23/2012 10:18:28 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Lazlo in PA

You don’t like Mark Belling?

He’s a classic


96 posted on 04/23/2012 10:18:36 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Yes, I know the Founders wanted virtue - but their insurance policy against lack of virtue was LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Less government equals more virtue - and any body can figure that out.”

You refute yourself. Limited government cannot be an insurance policy against lack of virtue. Only virtuous adherence to limited government ensures limited government.

Anybody can’t figure that out—you can’t figure out that you contradict yourself.

Limited government does not exist as a thing in itself. It exists when people make choices. Limited government is not a thing that can be “insurance policy.”

Lmited government, when and where it actually takes place, IS the exercise of virtue in government.


97 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:01 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Coma inducing. Even worse than Rove!


98 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:01 AM PDT by HectorOne
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To: sickoflibs
Holy crap, this RINO is the best Rush could get today? I wont be listening. Besides being a RINO she is very annoying to listen to, like fingernail's across a chalk board. I didnt like her 20 years ago and I don't like her now.

The earlier subs were good like Williams & Hedgecock. These "Mark's" & this women don't make it & I do not listen to any of them. Currently I listen at times to Tammy Bruce when EL RUSHBO is gone.

99 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:09 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It’s exactly why I am listening to Wilkow today on Sirius.


100 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:18 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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