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I'm sure you know that this argument is frequently used by gay advocates, so I don't know how much stock I should put in this article. What do you think?
1 posted on 04/08/2012 3:21:11 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

no question some fags hate themselves...especially if there is an R after their name

creeps


68 posted on 04/08/2012 5:56:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: EveningStar

STFU.


69 posted on 04/08/2012 6:00:55 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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Yawn. Same bogus “social science” claptrap we’ve heard from liberal academia pushing an agenda forever.


72 posted on 04/08/2012 6:28:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EveningStar

If the alleged same sex attraction is there, but unacknowledged, then how can they even know it is there?

You can say anything unacknowleged is there. It’s a baseless assertion.


73 posted on 04/08/2012 6:29:03 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: EveningStar

“Homophobia” is a fake term, so any article beginning with this false premise is not worth 2 seconds to read it.


81 posted on 04/08/2012 7:08:47 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: EveningStar

Maybe I can tell you what I think once I stop laughing so hard!


83 posted on 04/08/2012 7:40:32 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EveningStar
Most homophobia is not fear ("phobia") at all -- rather disgust, loathing, despising, abhorrence -- or, even, hate.

My observation is that most people called, "homophobes" by homosexuals truthfully are repelled by queers and their lifestyle -- but do not "fear" them at all.

"Homophobia": almost as egregious a misnomer as "Gay"...

84 posted on 04/08/2012 7:42:08 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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Is Some Homophobia Self-phobia?

Only if your name's Dick, Peter, Rod, Willie, or Wang.
86 posted on 04/08/2012 7:46:47 PM PDT by aruanan
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The term ‘homophobia’ manifests the perverse thinking of homosexuals.

When used as a childish taunt, they fully recognize a large percentage of the audience so labeled will never acquiesce to homosexuality or condone their behavior or thinking. To that group of normal people, the homosexual in open rebellion simply seeks to throw a verbal insult with impunity. They could care less if it is true or not,..just something they can claim to win or make a draw from a verbal altercation. (The same way an effeminate homosexual attempts to win an argument.)

Another audience receiving the label by homosexuals, as ‘homophobes’, are those who are sincerely conscientiously seeking a resolution of conflict between the perverted homosexual lifestyle and normalcy, but rather than becoming adversarial or dogmatic against homosexuality, are likely to become lukewarm in their acceptance of such criminal behavior. To the homosexual, such an audience becomes less of a threat to their homosexual lifestyle by attacking them first, and overcoming any willpower to oppose the homosexual agenda. It’s basically an offensive tactic to cause their adversary to become defensive. Once defensive, the homosexual then attempts to claim equality with heterosexual behavior with an additional arrogant appearance of insolence. It lessens opposition to their political agenda, and possibly may even open doors to attract sexual victims to their agendas.

Another group the their audience to be so labeled, are indeed week willed people who really don’t know what homosexuality means, implies, or why it has historically been criminal through human history. That weak willed group is also likely to become future fodder for the homosexual recruitment campaign. When the mantra of ‘homophobia’ is repeated enough, even those who fall victim of homosexual advances, later fear repercussions from either heterosexuals or homosexuals, and their personal testimony of the inherent degenerate nature of homosexuality is less likely to be brought into public light, avoiding public scrutiny.

In a nutshell, only sexually immoral people condone the term ‘homophobia’, which promotes more ignorance of degenerate criminal sexual immorality. An academic institution favoring the term simply manifests its promotion of ignorance and lack of subjectivity in reporting actual phenomenon.


87 posted on 04/08/2012 8:06:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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So, if I hold a viewpoint that murder is morally wrong, it means I want to kill somebody?

Stuff and nonsense created to transfer guilt and blame from the person doing things forbidden by God to the upright person who takes the stand that it is wrong.

88 posted on 04/08/2012 8:24:16 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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Where one likes to stick one’s whacker for fun is one of the least interesting or important things about a person.


89 posted on 04/08/2012 8:28:36 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Hope springs eternal - maybe the Bucs will break .500 this year)
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..."Individuals who identify as straight but in psychological tests show a strong attraction to the same sex...every reputable clinician knows there are no such tests which can reliably detect some sort of hidden attraction to the same or opposite sex, for that matter - just more examples of social scientists finding what their prejudices made them set out to find........
90 posted on 04/08/2012 9:31:27 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Because I find these fairies sick, demented, disgusting, perverted and mentally ill, somehow I am a phobic and I want to be gay!!?? LMAO....

These people, and anyone that agrees with this junk, are as sick as the faggots themselves.


92 posted on 04/08/2012 9:47:52 PM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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Self-identified homosexuals’ heterophobia stems from abuse from an older member of the same sex, difficulty with their parents and members of the opposite sex, and a self-loathing of “breeders”.

This study sounds like pure projection.


93 posted on 04/08/2012 9:50:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: EveningStar
Read your Bible.
You don't tolerate homosexuals, you don't talk to homosexuals, you totally cut them off.
96 posted on 04/08/2012 10:52:28 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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I'm sure you know that this argument is frequently used by gay advocates, so I don't know how much stock I should put in this article. What do you think?

One would have to first buy into the premise that homophobia even exists. This 'study' accepts the fallacy hook line and sinker and then goes on to 'prove' a generalization, one of the reasons; it does this 'proving' by subjectively questioning and testing a sample of 160 students and from this population determining subjectively which students are secretly latent homosexuals.

This 'study' and its results are pure liberal humanistic psycho babble garbage.

The article deserves a mega big barf alert.

97 posted on 04/09/2012 5:13:10 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Not sure how this would be a bad thing. Some of the most anti-drug people were former drug addicts. Aren’t the sodomites themselves, the ones most familiar with the tremendous damage and deadly aspects of the lifestyle choice? Then it would be logical that some who are the strongest against homosexual behavior would be ones familiar with it ( just like ex-smokers).


100 posted on 04/09/2012 6:25:35 AM PDT by DesertRenegade
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You asked what we think.

I think God hates homosexuality. I think he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for it. I think God tells us that homosexuality is God's penalty to societies such as those of the Greeks for refusing to acknowledge his command on their lives and turning to idols instead. The first chapters of the book of Romans, as well as many other passages of the Bible, give me no choice on what to believe on that if I want to call myself a Bible-believing Christian.

I have no “fear” of homosexuals, and unlike many conservatives, I don't even have any particular revulsion for them. That's because I've known lots of homosexuals and lesbians, all the way back to high school, due to attending some pretty liberal schools. I've also known politically conservative Republicans who were homosexual, going back to the mid-1980s when whether to tolerate homosexuality was still a debate in conservative Republican circles. Prior to becoming an evangelical, I couldn't have cared less what two men or two women did in their own bedrooms. God requires me to have a very different stand on homosexuality than the one I would prefer to have.

That's where my energy comes from on this issue — not fear, but following the crystal clear warnings of Scripture on this issue.

God's Word required me to change my views about lots of things, and tolerance for homosexuality was one of them. Homosexuality is evil because God says it's evil, and that's the end of the issue.

101 posted on 04/09/2012 7:09:09 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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Since you asked what do [I] think, I'll provide a few reasons and at the same time, agree with most of what's been posted so far.

That's just the beginning.

What do you, EveningStar, think about the above, and why?

102 posted on 04/09/2012 7:34:10 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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There is no such thing as homophobia!


103 posted on 04/09/2012 8:59:32 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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