Skip to comments.Santorum and Gingrich Scramble for the Conservative Vote
Posted on 01/15/2012 11:59:29 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
WASHINGTON Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich both pleaded with conservatives on Sunday to unite behind their candidacies in a last-ditch effort to stop Mitt Romneys march to the Republican presidential nomination.
Mr. Santorum said the Republican contest needed to quickly narrow to a two-person race between Mr. Romney and someone else, but he declined to explicitly call on the other candidates to drop out.
Im not going to tell anybody to get in or out of a race; I think thats their decision to make, Mr. Santorum said on Fox News Sunday. But he added, We need to get this eventually down to a conservative alternative to Mitt Romney.
Mr. Santorum said the vote of support for his candidacy by Christian conservative leaders on Saturday in Texas should persuade Republicans in South Carolina that he deserves to be that alternative.
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Both Gingrich and Santorum are fine Conservatives and I would be happy with either of them however Gingrich presently has a better chance of knocking out the liberal 0bama Junior Romney.
Response: This may be true. I can certainly see Romney and his crowd eliminating conservatives. If one looks at what Romney DOES ignoring what he says, he is very liberal.
There is one guy running that wants to knock off that socialist **** and allow “Right to work”
There is on guy that wants to reign in the FED and the EPA.
Rick Perry should endorse Newt and go back to Texas or he will help push Mitt over the top. He has already said that Newt was a brillant person. Time to give it up, Rick, your stances crushed you in the early debates which will not carry you in the general. Just keep dividing the votes which explains Romney and Rove’s smiles. Gosh, these egos-from the candidates to the newspaper people, to the insiders, to the church groups. Get someone in there to change the system before it’s too late. We need a person who knows what it takes to make changes and who will investigate the treasury.
Let me fix that for you.
If Santorum and Newt are out, you have Romney and Obama
Its *THAT* simple.
The 2010 Tea Party victory was a reaction against “The Divine One” a revulsion if you please. It may not have been due to an acceptance of “the message.”
People just dont get it.
What stances killed him?
Your calculus is depressing but accurate.
Perry will go back to Texas and serve again or he will retire having served well.
He won’t hang his head, he has done America proud and has been true to himself.
Perhaps 2010 was both an Obama backlash and a conservative resurgence—I would like to think so and see more of it this November.
But as far as proving the original assumption we certainly won't if we nominate Mitt and that's a for sure.
Well, you’ve proved my original post’s aside.
Well this is far from an ideal situation, but I have the impression that Santorum is honest.
If he starts wearing a bow tie with his sweater vest, I’ll vote for him.
A beautiful summary of an ugly picture.
Thanks for posting that. Conservatives -must- understand those facts, or we are back to pre-Goldwater days for at least as long.
Some of the stuff being dredged up about Santorum is highly suspect too.
1. trying to take him down because he voted for things that were riders on comprehensive bills, as if he only voted for the problematic issue standing alone
2. trying to take him down with sites clearly coming from a leftist vent, when you look they’ve trashed Republicans to the almost total exclusion of Democrats (senate and governors)
That’s sad but the way things are shaping up.Gingrich blew it by his no show. Neither he nor Santorum have the GOP mega bucks like a hole Romney.And Paul is the spoiler the Obama machine was hoping for.
Once upon a debate
LOL that is funny
Oh stop with this BS already. Stop lying. How is Santorum going to make sure that Romney gets the nomination? How?
He seems to want to handle it by taking benefits away from the already retired
You mean hes in favor of Social Security reform? Earned my vote!
This may win your vote, but this will lose the election to Obama for sure.
Well said. Add Paul the spoiler that has boots on the ground like Obama and a GOP funding of a used car salesman flip flop Romney and we have one huge mess that the REAL ENEMIES: the MSM,the Obama Machine progressives are LOLing at..
A M E N! but....either one would do better with Martinez as VP,Palin as energy sec.,and each other serving in the others cabinets.
Last I checked, my generation is taking it in the shorts right now.
But hey, who cares? Let’s put the debt up to 150 percent of GDP. Sky’s the limit.
Show us, South Carolina; that you are better, smarter than this!
The big question is who will come in third place.
It is a BS argument used on here frequently.Remember that supposedly Bachmann was in the tank for Romney.Who ever is not Palin or Gingrich is in the tank for Romney...it is a silly childish argument that says my _________ candidate or no one.(They may as well write in Romney/Obama’s names.)
As for his failed marriages; unless, you can walk in his shoes; no reason to go there. Our Country is too desperate for Leadership; for this.
We know Newt can lead; and that he can debate; and hold his own with world Leadership. We know his vision for America.
Good Grief; Reagan was not perfect; nor a saint; nor Bush, for that matter; why does any Repub imagine we must have a Saint? Certainly, NONE exists per running for 'this' job. Nor, should we want one, for that matter.
Paul.Obama/Soros fake tea party boots on the ground will be lucky to come in third or fourth.
Thirty percent of people collecting benefits are well below retirement age. I would support anyone eliminating their 'benefits' altogether. Santorum has the courage to tell the truth while the other candidates via political expediency remain part of the problem.
I ask this respectfully, though it will come off as hostile:
Does it bother you at all that the net result of your vote on Saturday will likely be to hand Romney every single delegate in SC, and effectively end the entire primary process three weeks into January?
Because I can tell you: I run the Newt ping list and started it way back when. If the polls in my state read as they do in SC, but with Santorum and Romney in a two-man race instead of Gingrich and Romney, I would be voting for Rick Santorum to stop Romney. I think most Newt backers would, since stopping Romney seems to be the one unifying issue for all of us.
Why is it Santrorum voters are perfectly content to voting for the guy who is way behind Romney instead of strategically voting for the guy who is statistically tied with Romney? I asked this same question in 2008, when Huckabee tried riding a strong Iowa finish through an entire national primary process.
Are you really going to vote for Rick Santorum on Saturday if the polls show that Gingrich has the only real chance of denying Romney every single SC delegate? Are you really prepared to turn SC effectively blue in the GOP Primaries, and make it once again the state that hands a RINO nomination, just cause, doggone it, you just like Rick Santorum better?
I respectfully ask that you reconsider. There is no “strong finish” in SC. Winner takes ALL; second place is MEANINGLESS.
You also have to consider that aside from the process being over if Romney wins SC, a lot of us are not going to forgive Rick Santorum and his supporters and come rallying behind him if he continues being 2012’s Mike Huckabee. Giving Romney SC and effectively the nomination is not something people like myself are going to reward.
Post this link to all who call Santorum a RINO
Three cheers for bringing up Santorum’s HORRIBLE social security plan.
This is a disaster. Once people learn about it he will be unelectable.
Trust me on this, as Rush says.
The cane and walker crowd may hobble to the polls but they will get there and vote against him.
I need to hear more about this. It isn’t out there enough.
I wish Perry would bring it up. He and Paul Ryan have a sensible, workable plan that wouldn’t punish the elderly.
I see a lot of young people on here absolutely livid about people on social security. My dearest hope for them is that their elderly parents move in with them.
My vow is not to reply to stupidity today.
So I’m not bother to reply to you.
Speaking of getting out, I’m wondering about Ron Paul.
I don’t wish him ill, but he’s old and he looks horrible.
He’s suddenly gone back to Texas and no one knows why.
If he should drop out for health reasons, I wonder who would get his votes. He has a lot of them right now.
“Santorum and Gingrich Scramble for the Conservative Vote”
And neither have the organization nor the resources to see it through. It’s a two horse race between mitt romney and Ron Paul. It’ll be interesting to see how long they each stay in and continue to split the traditional conservative vote.
We disagree but that's politics and politics is combat confusion in our state and the only accurate polls here are exit polls—and even those can't be trusted every time.
Like I said, right or wrong....this will become a BIG issue and a losing one for Santorum if he wins the primary. He may win votes on this against Romney but surely will lose to Obama.
So; he figured out the ‘global warming’ scam - and better late than never.. .Have you heard Perry on this?*******
Yeah, no elected official in America has ridiculed AGW more than Rick Perry. Going back to at least 2008 he’s referred to it in speeches as nothing more than hype, hot air and a big phony mess. He also accused Gore’s mouth of being the primary source of global warming 4 years ago for his constant preaching on the issue.
Perry is far and away the most solid of any candidate on this issue. He takes a sledgehammer to the issue.
People who know something about the subject and who are capable of a reasonable discussion have varying views about the Road.
Nothing would ever be built without eminent domain. It doesn’t take that much land and the owners are well compensated. The TTH was a bright idea and showed Rick Perry’s thinking outside the box as they say.
Perry took chances when he believed in something. He’s taken chances with a couple of stances in this race, as when he wouldn’t support corn gasoline in Iowa just to get votes. Santorum did.
He knows he’s taken an unpopular stance on the troops also, but it’s what he believes. He doesn’t trust Iran and he doesn’t think our troops should have given years of their lives only to be pulled out as a political ploy.
“We also tend to aggravate the problem by driving off people who could be and should be potential political allies. Not brothers, not comrades, but allies. I am speaking here of libertarians.”
You’re 100% right. But your call for sanity is going to fall on deaf ears. And the sad irony is that the folks who will end up marginalized as a result will not be the libertarians but the traditional conservatives.
Santorum should endorse Rick Perry and go back to PA.
Oh, wait, they kicked him out. Oh, well.
Santorum is dividing the conservative vote and he doesn’t have a chance. Let it be between two decent candidates—Gingrich and Perry and let’s see what happens.