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Drone downed in Iran probably ours, US says
CNN ^ | December 4th, 2011 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 12/04/2011 1:31:05 PM PST by buzzer

Operators of a U.S. drone lost flight control of it along Afghanistan's western border with Iran, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the incident. The crew operating the unmanned drone reported a loss of flight control just before the drone went down. U.S. officials are aware of reports out of Iran that they shot down a U.S. RQ-170 Sentinel and believe this may be the drone the Iranians are talking about, according to this U.S. official.

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1 posted on 12/04/2011 1:31:06 PM PST by buzzer
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To: buzzer

BAD gamer. No Doritos.


2 posted on 12/04/2011 1:33:16 PM PST by golux
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To: buzzer

The pilot is uncounted for. Let’s hope he or she is found in time to be home for Christmas. In other news, don’t we like have these spy satellites that can read a license plate from space?


3 posted on 12/04/2011 1:39:11 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SkyDancer

Yeah, I’m worried about the pilot too...


4 posted on 12/04/2011 1:41:18 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: buzzer

All kidding aside, it's great that we have this technology that allows us to do what we do w/o having to put American pilots at risk.

5 posted on 12/04/2011 1:47:05 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: buzzer

Sounds to me like the Iranians have found a way to jam the frequency used to fly the thing.

They don’t need to shoot it down if they can do that.


6 posted on 12/04/2011 1:52:34 PM PST by Venturer
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To: buzzer

Sounds to me like the Iranians have found a way to jam the frequency used to fly the thing.

They don’t need to shoot it down if they can do that.


7 posted on 12/04/2011 1:52:44 PM PST by Venturer
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To: buzzer
Oh crap! This isn't a laughing matter, folks. The IRQ-170 Sentinel is our LATEST STEALTH model, built using the B-2 Spirit design. How the Hell did this happen?????


8 posted on 12/04/2011 1:52:58 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: buzzer
Oh crap! This isn't a laughing matter, folks. The IRQ-170 Sentinel is our LATEST STEALTH model, built using the B-2 Spirit design. How the Hell did this happen?????


9 posted on 12/04/2011 1:53:19 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Venturer

It seems so..


10 posted on 12/04/2011 1:55:02 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Venturer

It seems so..


11 posted on 12/04/2011 1:55:12 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: buzzer

Eventually, ALL unmanned aerial vehicles become unmanned ground vehicles.


12 posted on 12/04/2011 1:55:55 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: buzzer; a fool in paradise

I hope the pilot’s OK! Rescue mission NOW!


13 posted on 12/04/2011 1:56:01 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: buzzer; a fool in paradise

I hope the pilot’s OK! Rescue mission NOW!


14 posted on 12/04/2011 1:56:07 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: buzzer

I had just heard that there was no evidence that it was ours through a Reuters article... I’ll check the time on the article and if there’s another update or not...


15 posted on 12/04/2011 1:58:57 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: buzzer

I had just heard that there was no evidence that it was ours through a Reuters article... I’ll check the time on the article and if there’s another update or not...


16 posted on 12/04/2011 1:59:10 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: buzzer

Lost US aircraft in Iran...just one more thing Obama has in common with Carter.


17 posted on 12/04/2011 1:59:15 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Oh crap! This isn't a laughing matter, folks. The IRQ-170 Sentinel is our LATEST STEALTH model, built using the B-2 Spirit design.

I read that it only incorporates first-generation stealth technology. They purposely left out the latest and greatest, given this aircraft's type of mission and the consequent high likelihood of samples falling into the wrong hands.

18 posted on 12/04/2011 2:01:46 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Smart, if true... Not that I don’t think our military would consider those factors in the first place.

I think the more important issue - than possible stolen tech secrets is that Iran is stating in ITS papers that it perpetrated what would generally be considered an aggressive action against the US. The mullahs are, IMHO, planting the seeds for a “defensive” war propaganda-wise. Fortunately, there are many in Iran who are well aware of the fact that it’s attempted propaganda.


19 posted on 12/04/2011 2:07:27 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: SkyDancer; Rebelbase; Revolting cat!

“The pilot is uncounted for.”
The RQ-170 is a unmaned remote controlled device. The pilots of these drones usually sit somewhere in nevada near vegas.


20 posted on 12/04/2011 2:54:26 PM PST by buzzer (Don't worry.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

just another example of exporting technology to our enemies. nothing to see here. move along


21 posted on 12/04/2011 3:03:03 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: buzzer; SkyDancer; Revolting cat!

B.T. Barnum...


22 posted on 12/04/2011 3:05:01 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Revolting cat!; Rebelbase; SkyDancer

Please tell me this is sarcasm. You do know what a drone is, right? The “pilot” is probably watching football in Nevada as we speak.


23 posted on 12/04/2011 3:05:50 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Revolting cat!; Rebelbase; SkyDancer

Please tell me this is sarcasm. You do know what a drone is, right? The “pilot” is probably watching football in Nevada as we speak.


24 posted on 12/04/2011 3:05:54 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: buzzer

If we didn’t want the Iranians, Russians, Chinese, etc. to have the UAV, they would have found a smoking crater instead.


25 posted on 12/04/2011 3:05:58 PM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: buzzer

If we didn’t want the Iranians, Russians, Chinese, etc. to have the UAV, they would have found a smoking crater instead.


26 posted on 12/04/2011 3:06:05 PM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: buzzer

If we didn’t want the Iranians, Russians, Chinese, etc. to have the UAV, they would have found a smoking crater instead.


27 posted on 12/04/2011 3:06:13 PM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: buzzer
The RQ-170 is a unmaned remote controlled device. The pilots of these drones usually sit somewhere in nevada near vegas.

Those darn slots are a distraction.

28 posted on 12/04/2011 3:09:50 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: LibertyRocks

“I think the more important issue - than possible stolen tech secrets is that Iran is stating in ITS papers that it perpetrated what would generally be considered an aggressive action against the US.”

I hope that the “official” versions of both sides are true.
Meaning that the damn thing went out of control and accidentally violated iranian airspace. Then it would be OK they blew it out of the air. No problem.

If we lose control of such a device, we lose control but we have enough other stuff in the air and space to locate it on it’s way across the border. We would have informed the iranian gouvernment somehow and apologized for the violation of their airspace and made this public.

This did not happen ! That means there are only two other scenarios remaining:

a) We delibrate violated their airspace, they blew it up. Scares me but doesn’t make me wonder

b) They captured the damn thing.
Scares me much more then a)

“The mullahs are, IMHO, planting the seeds for a “defensive” war propaganda-wise.”

As Senator Hiram Johnson (R) once said:
“The first casualty when war comes is truth”

I guess we’re already at a new cold war.


29 posted on 12/04/2011 3:11:17 PM PST by buzzer
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To: bigdaddy45

Well, daddy, I see you got the joke!


30 posted on 12/04/2011 4:17:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bigdaddy45

Yes. It was sarcasm. Yes, I know what a drone it. Yes. I know they’re flown remotely. I was trying at some humor.


31 posted on 12/04/2011 4:58:14 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Joe 6-pack

Is it time for the Navy to smoke another Iranian airliner?


32 posted on 12/04/2011 4:59:19 PM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Toss 'em out!)
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To: SkyDancer
The Iranians just released a photo of the pilot


33 posted on 12/04/2011 5:00:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: buzzer

http://gizmodo.com/5864883/has-iran-killed-this-advanced-us-stealth-plane


34 posted on 12/04/2011 5:05:03 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: dfwgator

Hah! Saw right through that. He’s an Iranian!! See that habib on his head???? Can’t fool me. LOL


35 posted on 12/04/2011 5:12:59 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: buzzer

Let’s go get it.


36 posted on 12/04/2011 5:14:01 PM PST by Principle Over Politics (Romney 2012 is McCain 2008. No more RINOs.)
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To: buzzer

Aljazeera says that elite IRGC hackers took over the drone
(which may or may not have been over Iran). This is the second or third one now so the IRGC team is a leg up.

It also means they can get Russian help dumping the ROM
and firmware. Not easy but it will get done with Putin sharing the bounty.

No one’s fault, just a determined foe.


37 posted on 12/04/2011 5:14:46 PM PST by RitchieAprile (Beck is off his meds again...)
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To: Revolting cat!; SkyDancer

Sorry fellas....some days you just can’t tell if people are joking or stupid. You’ve restored a tiny bit of my faith in humanity :)


38 posted on 12/04/2011 5:18:17 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: dfwgator

LOL! I remember the day that photo was released. Wasn’t it Reuters?


39 posted on 12/04/2011 5:20:13 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: bigdaddy45

When I go out on a date I’ll throw out something like that just to watch his reaction. I like to make outlandish statements that are so out of it that it couldn’t be taken seriously. I love my LOL moments.


40 posted on 12/04/2011 5:30:15 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: RitchieAprile

Anything that uses radio waves can be intercepted, recorded, analyzed, decoded and used. Just matter of time.


41 posted on 12/04/2011 5:31:42 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: buzzer
I say we lose a few Tomahawks in Iran next.
42 posted on 12/04/2011 5:53:29 PM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: SkyDancer

and you’re not a fella??? whoops. A double apology. lol


43 posted on 12/04/2011 6:14:50 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Alas Babylon!

Lucky shooting?


44 posted on 12/04/2011 6:47:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Anything that uses radio waves can be intercepted, recorded, analyzed, decoded and used. Just matter of time.,

This is not quite correct. RPVs are mostly autonomous and human intervention is quite limited. Satellite links provide data transmission back to the ground operator. You can bet that command and control signals, as well as data are all encrypted, and if the Iranians are breaking these kinds of codes and exploiting them in real time, then some folks at NSA need to be fired. Jamming does not good because the system is designed assuming that it will be jammed, which is why flight is mostly autonomous.

They might have shot one down, or it might have gone down because of a technical mishap, but that is why you fly UAVs, so that you can risk flying them in a high threat environoment. By comparison to a manned aircraft they are cheap.

45 posted on 12/04/2011 7:02:18 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: bigdaddy45

No wurries, mate. It’s fun when FReepers find out after a few posts.


46 posted on 12/04/2011 7:41:16 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: buzzer

Why is everyone posting twice?


47 posted on 12/04/2011 7:51:31 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: buzzer

Why is everyone posting twice?


48 posted on 12/04/2011 7:52:08 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Looks like everyone here graduated from the school of redundancy again.


49 posted on 12/04/2011 9:08:22 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: LibWhacker

Looks like everyone here graduated from the school of redundancy again.


50 posted on 12/04/2011 9:09:10 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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