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comrades, get ready for the big media push,

and even the push by some on this forum,

to push us into the center.

1 posted on 11/23/2011 9:34:57 AM PST by ken21
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Rush did say that Obama was “unelectable” during the Texas primaries in 2008. I’ll never forget that day.


2 posted on 11/23/2011 9:36:51 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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The actual title has proper capitalization.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 9:38:17 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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Right. Let examine the electoral record.

Solid Conservative who won. Ronald Reagan. 2xs. In land slides.

Democrat Lite Rinos who won in landslides.....NONE

Democrat Lite Rinos who were crushed? GBush1 in 1992, Bob Dole in 1996 and John McCain in 2008.

Seems the “Wishful thinking” here is on Medved’s part.

4 posted on 11/23/2011 9:39:41 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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and even the push by some on this forum...

Why aren't sociocons rallying behind Santorum? Isn't he the most social conservative candidate running? Who are the conservative champions? Where are they?

8 posted on 11/23/2011 9:50:04 AM PST by rhombus
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Rush Limbaugh's favorite slogan, "Conservatism wins every time," is more a statement of wishful thinking than an accurate summary of electoral experience

Medved makes the point that Reagan lost to moderates Nixon and Ford in the primaries and that Goldwater lost to Johnson in the general. All instances of establishment hacks working against the party base.

I guess Rush's statement should be that conservatism “wins every time we are able to crush the establishment quislings like Medved.”

9 posted on 11/23/2011 9:50:38 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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Medved shilled for McCain from the beginning of the 2007-2008 cycle. There are a lot of reasons why the GOP lost in 2008. McLame didn’t help matters.

Elections are between candidates more than they are about ideas.

McCain was a doddering old fool who crapped his pants when the financial crisis hit. Up to that point, he was actually slightly ahead in the polls and running a somewhat effective campaign. He was getting out front of most issues. He had stolen Obama’s post-DNC Convention thunder with the exciting Sarah Palin VP pick.

Then the financial crisis hit, and he panicked. McCain also refused to adequately attack and expose Obama as a radical. (In fact, I demanded that the McCain campaign return my contribution, since he refused to aggressively campaign).

Historically, the candidate with the most energized base tends to win. The 2008 GOP base was not energized. Moderates just ride the wave. Since the excitement was around Obama in 2008, that’s the way they went. A competent GOP candidate (was there one in 2008?) might have done better, but it was a bad GOP year with a bad GOP candidate. McCain didn’t give Medved’s “moderates” any compelling reason to vote for him over Obama.

I think that any of the GOP candidates, with the exception of Ron Paul, is likely to win in 2008. But that makes it all the more important that we nominate a true conservative.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 10:08:46 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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The ‘center’ is where EVERYONE on the circumference can take a crap on you...no thanks, No Mitt (just no, in general), No Newt (amnesty), no Perry (amnesty)....


29 posted on 11/23/2011 11:22:40 AM PST by Gaffer
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All sovereign governments around the world have borrowed more than they can repay.

Major banks own far too much of this debt to remain solvent when the governments default.

Unions and regulation and the prospect of $15 trillion in U.S. government debt which increases by more than $1 trillion every year are keeping the b2b tier of jobs in America slashed to a minimum.

Democrats are not going to take the correct actions.

Therefore by the fall of 2012 the economy will be faring anywhere from the same to much worse.

A centrist Republican will simply oversee continued collapse between 2013 and 2016 as they try to keep both personal and corporate parasites profiting from government largesse.

The debt ceiling will be hit again in 2013. If it is increased yet again, the wheels will start coming off at some point, as U.S. dollar creation by the Treasury/Fed combo starts to spiral.

You can’t keep borrowing increasing amounts from future taxpayers forever.


32 posted on 11/23/2011 11:48:09 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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