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1 posted on 10/24/2011 9:42:51 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Fools. Just what we need. Every big cesspool city deciding the outcome of our elections.


104 posted on 10/24/2011 10:38:25 AM PDT by jersey117
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“Those who advocate abolishing the Electoral College said they thought the system puts undue emphasis on a small number of swing states”

This has got to be the worst pro-popular vote argument I’ve ever heard. You want to swap the “undue emphasis” of this or that state every four years for the perfectly proper and acceptable emphasis on the same states, namely New York and California, election after election, from here to eternity? What have you gained?


106 posted on 10/24/2011 10:40:14 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Obviously the “lack of education” program is scoring some solid successes!


108 posted on 10/24/2011 10:41:47 AM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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“That year, Democrat Al Gore won the national popular vote but Republican George W. Bush wound up with more electoral votes and was elected.”

In California alone, Gore outscored Bush by millions of votes enabling Gores total vote to exceed Bush’s by a mere 1/2 million votes......think about that a moment!

The Electoral College prevents large population states like California from determining the outcome through sheer weight of a landslide vote within that one state only. Think about it!

Elimimating the Electoral College would be one of the last nails in our nation’s coffin......

Eliminite the EC????? Over my dead body.


110 posted on 10/24/2011 10:45:28 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is what happens when no one learns the “Why” behind the Constitution. I guess that was the point, though, right?


111 posted on 10/24/2011 10:47:39 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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Warning! Progressives’ NPV Plan for White House Control, 2012 & Permanently
112 posted on 10/24/2011 10:48:05 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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Most might believe it should be scrapped, because they do not understand it, they do not understand its intrinsic and important relationship to the Federal nature of our Republic, and have been taught at many steps of their education that “one man one vote” and “direct representation” are not only important values but should be applied universally.

Our founders knew that was not true and not the best thing in order for the Republic to remain a Republic.

They knew that pure Democracy leads to dictatorship, with the first Dictator chosen by popular consent.

We need to repeal the amendment that changed the selection of U.S. Senators from selection by the state legislatures to direct popular election.

In doing so, we need that work to be part of educating the public to the importance of the result of that repeal - the Senate is supposed to give the sovereign fifty states a direct voice in Federal legislation. The Senate is to be where THEY, the states, as individual entities are represented, just as the House of Representatives is to be where “the peoples” representatives sit. The House is the check on the parochial interests of the states and the Senate is the check on the tyranny of the majority; which is often a majority of the moment from immediate popular sentiment and not a long reasoned appraisal.

The Electoral College represents in its number of electors the sum of those interests and represents the Federal nature of the Republic in how most of those electors are chosen - the popular winner in a state gets that state’s electoral votes.

Through the Electoral College, the President becomes the President of “these united states” in much greater degree and manner, and consistent with the design of our Republic, than the “President of the people of the United States”.

It was intentional that “the people’s choice” become the choice they want their state’s representation in the Electoral College to reflect; their vote is to determine their state’s choice for President.

The “national popular vote” agenda disregards all that is both right and necessary, for the survival of our Republic, about the Electoral College; and popular sentiment against the Electoral College is most likely due in some part to the subversion that is going on through the “national popular vote” agenda.


115 posted on 10/24/2011 10:50:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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For the first time since the disputed 2000 presidential election, the majority of Republicans said they favor amending the Constitution, the Princeton, N.J., polling agency said...

IDIOTS. LET’S MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.


117 posted on 10/24/2011 10:51:35 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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Most in U.S. would scrap Electoral College

Precisely the reason we need to keep it.

118 posted on 10/24/2011 10:51:53 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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Someone should take a poll asking the American people if they would prefer eliminating states altogether and become one gigantic national land mass with one central government.

-PJ

120 posted on 10/24/2011 10:54:11 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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If this NPV farce is ever adopted, it will lead to the secession of several States.


122 posted on 10/24/2011 10:54:57 AM PDT by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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How many respondents are actually citizens who are eligible to vote? If they aren't citizens, then I don't care what they think.

-PJ

125 posted on 10/24/2011 10:58:51 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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And if that doesn't work, they could always suspend elections....

“I think, to work together and to get over the partisan bickering and focus on fixing things. I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won't hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover. I really hope that someone can agree with me on that." - Democrat Gov. Bev Perdue

126 posted on 10/24/2011 11:00:00 AM PDT by death2tyrants
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Brainwashing works. We now have 4 generations of Americans most of whom have no clue what Federalism is or why the Founders chose it. We are heading for raw democracy as a step toward socialist tyranny.

Every day I give thanks to God that I was not born later. I have always held dear with immense gratitude that I was born in America. As I age, I am grateful that I will pass long before the American experiment fails completely. The Founders would not recognize this nation as it is. I am so grateful I will not live to see the really horrible stuff.

I am only 52 now and may live another 25 years, but what comes in 50-100 years from now will be truly horrible. We will have very little societal/cultural unity to hold together all the different races and language speakers and will balkanize severely. Federal government control will be paramount.

I really grieve for people’s great grandchildren and further down the line. We have completely betrayed them as a nation. We have sold them back into slavery.


127 posted on 10/24/2011 11:01:43 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be fooked.)
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Our public schools and media are 24/7 teaching that we are a democracy-—they want mob rule where there are no minority rights whatsoever. Democracies ALWAYS lead to tyranny.

We need to teach facts about the separation of powers and repeal the 17th amendment.


132 posted on 10/24/2011 11:11:31 AM PDT by savagesusie
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Alternate headline
“Most Americans are stupid”


134 posted on 10/24/2011 11:20:32 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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Our forefathers knew exactly what they were doing in setting up the electoral college. I love these polls...Like I’ve been saying, they’re no longer polls but “mind” games.


140 posted on 10/24/2011 11:40:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Most people in the US would scrap the Electoral College

Fine.

As soon as 2/3 of each House of Congress and 3/4 of the State Legislatures or conventions agree, it's done.

Until then, STFU because what "most people want" is not part of our system of government.

143 posted on 10/24/2011 11:49:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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We have raised generations of fools, aclimated to a voting for entertainers mentality.


147 posted on 10/24/2011 12:30:39 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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Recounts would be pure hell.

Imagine Bush/Gore/Florida (times 57!)

It’s hard to believe that enough smaller states would approve this.
Small states joined the Union with certain guarantees to insure that large states would not overwhelm them.
Would they be allowed to peacefully secede?


160 posted on 10/25/2011 8:16:39 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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