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Rick Perry Support Weakening
ThirdAgeMedia ^ | October 2, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/02/2011 1:10:08 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

Support for presidential hopeful Rick Perry is weakening with the Texas governor now in third place, a poll of conservative voters in Iowa indicates.

The poll, released Thursday by the American Research Group, had Perry in third with 14 percent of the vote, behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 21 percent and U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., at 15 percent, UPI.com reported.

"When Perry came in, a lot of people were leaning [toward] Perry or at least looking at him very hard," Bob Vander Plaats, the head of Family Leader, socially conservative umbrella organization, told The Hill, a Washington publication.

"The first three issues he addressed were HPV, the DREAM Act and the border fence," said former Iowa Republican Party Political Director Craig Robinson. "That shows how damaging these debates have been to Perry. He's explaining and he hasn't done a very good job of it."

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To: Fantasywriter
What’s the name of his ranch?

Coonasshead.

61 posted on 10/02/2011 5:17:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 3Fingas

You’re wrong. Perry has terrific speaking skills. His expertise is in a town hall atmosphere, or where he’s the featured guest. Granted, he hasn’t done very well in the debates. The next one might change peoples’ minds. He’s a fantastic orator, dependent on the setting.


62 posted on 10/02/2011 5:47:15 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Gritty
Same here.

After stumbling performances in the first two debates and his appalling "heartless" answer in the third, my wife and I simultaneously turned to each other and said, "He's toast!".

Well then gather the family lap dog and cuddle in your luxury townhouse and tremble over a cup of Starbucks frozen coffee. Because Mitt Romney is your guy.

Tough Texans that like to hunt and support the 2nd amendment and drink beer and watch the NFL support Rick Perry and always did.

63 posted on 10/02/2011 5:57:47 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: rottndog

Your post is absurd.


64 posted on 10/02/2011 6:41:40 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: deport

I cannot see Romney taking Iowa. The pro-life issue is far too important to Iowa Republicans.


65 posted on 10/02/2011 6:44:21 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I cannot see Romney taking Iowa.


You are probably correct. In 2008 Romney lost to Huckabee with 34%, Romney with 25%, Thompson and McCain each with 13%, Paul with 10% and Giuliani with 4%.


66 posted on 10/02/2011 6:53:06 PM PDT by deport
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To: Grey Eagle
Exactly!

Bachman maybe a conservative,but she is a neophyte!

She has said and done all he wrong things, and I can not support her at this time for President, unless she is the last person standing against Obama.

67 posted on 10/02/2011 6:56:30 PM PDT by Repub4bush (GOPbriefingroom.com)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
For a national reference here are the results by state for 2008.

McCain - green, Romney - yellow, Huckabee - blue

68 posted on 10/02/2011 6:57:55 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
Huckabee in reality is not a true conservative but it didn't matter, he was perceived as being the most pro-life of the bunch.

Things may be a little different this year because of the economy but if anyone think Iowa Republicans are liberal, they're not paying attention.

Romney had better hope Christy does not get in.

69 posted on 10/02/2011 6:58:51 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: 3Fingas
He turned in 3 consecutive lousy debate performances where he should have been able to make adjustments after the first or second event.

He did great for the third one, he told everyone where he stands on the invaders; he is in favor of enticing even more over the border.

THAT may have something to do with his fall.

There's no bottom for him.

70 posted on 10/02/2011 7:05:06 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: jersey117

We need to pick people who have a record of actual corruption fighting and organization overhauling regardless of party.

The ones that fit that are Cain and Palin. Anyone else would be a 5 foot leap out of a 10 foot hole.

Perry is mulch now. N- head, illegals, crony capitalism, vaccination... I don’t have to list them all if you have been paying attention. He can’t win.


71 posted on 10/02/2011 7:06:47 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Palin and Cain - Courageous leaders who can actually fire people and prosecute corruption!)
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To: mikhailovich
You’re wrong. Perry has terrific speaking skills. His expertise is in a town hall atmosphere, or where he’s the featured guest. Granted, he hasn’t done very well in the debates. The next one might change peoples’ minds. He’s a fantastic orator, dependent on the setting.

Apparently he gave a great speech at the La Raza national conference last year, even got some applause when he spoke out against Arizona-style legislation when it comes to illegals, but it's not fair to judge him on just a soundbite or two, anybody got the full speech he gave to the La Raza folks?
73 posted on 10/02/2011 7:58:24 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Apparently he gave a great speech at the La Raza national conference last year, even got some applause when he spoke out against Arizona-style legislation

Yeah and if those racists weren't booing him off the stage ...I'm not voting for him...period.

74 posted on 10/02/2011 8:07:49 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Quickgun

I voted for Rick Perry in the last two elections. He has done a pretty good job as governor. I know that he can give a good speech and he is usually a very astute candidate. However, he has performed terribly in the debates and seeing as he has been in politics for so long, there really isn’t any excuse for his lack of preparation. If he gets the nomination, I will vote for him. But, we need a candidate who can communicate his ideas clearly. If you doubt that, you ever wonder why Reagan was so successful — surely being know as the “Great Communicator” didn’t hurt. Oh and just because someone is a good speaker, it doesn’t ensure that he or she will make a good president. The person also must have good morals and sound political positions — two qualities that “Slick Willie” often lacked.


75 posted on 10/03/2011 3:22:28 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: BarnacleCenturion; rottndog; org.whodat; South40; miss marmelstein; cripplecreek; Condor51; ...
...the debates have effectively thwarted Perry's grandiose ambition. He hasn't done a very good job of explaining his positions, figuring he'd get by on swagger alone...

Americans came away with the uncomfortable feeling that a candidate was berating them, demeaning them for disagreeing about in-state tuition to illegals.

Perry turned out to be a bomb-thrower. His comments "talked down" to observers.

Perry probably could gave survived damaging issues had he been aware that he was on the national stage now---that he was not speaking to Texans anymore.

76 posted on 10/03/2011 3:54:02 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Liz
Perry probably could gave survived damaging issues had he been aware that he was on the national stage now---that he was not speaking to Texans anymore.

This can be the downside with some Governors running. They know what works in their own state, but are clueless to how the country is as a whole.

77 posted on 10/03/2011 4:03:48 AM PDT by dforest
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Perry's campaign was on the brink of oblivion and news about the Perry ranch name pushed it over the brink into Never-Never Land. In point of fact, for most Americans, Perry was done before he ever started. His in-state Dream Act alone was enough to seal his fate.

Perry family's longtime hunting camp is situated on a vast, 42,000-acre ranch that reaches into three counties. It was common in those pre-Great Society days to name property after its shape---hence the offensive name.

Politicians have a nasty habit of covering-up a shady past by acting like "humanitarians." Makes me wonder what the "magnanimous" LBJ was hiding down there in Texas.

Perry resorted to sucking up to illegals.

78 posted on 10/03/2011 4:04:57 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Liz

“Not speaking to Texans anymore.”

That’s the problem - perhaps all Texans are conservatives (I don’t know) but not all conservatives are Texans. And there has to be a way for Perry to talk to the rest of the base in a clear, concise way that we can understand and admire. So far, he only seems to be talking to his Texas base.


79 posted on 10/03/2011 4:08:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: indylindy
On the national stage, Texas talk does not resonate.....voters want presidential talk. But Perry does not have it to give.

Perry apparently has Texans convinced that they can do whatever they want whenever they want because they are Texas and only federal laws that benefit them are the ones they want. . He hogties Texans by appealing to their Big D chauvinism---and reinforces the ego appeal by saying "we can secede whenever we want to." (That frees Perry to conduct all the funny business he wants).

Perrynistas talk out of both sides of their mouth.....controlling immigration is not Texas' responsibility but in-state tuition is a state's rights issue. The more Perry talks about immigration, the deeper he keeps digging his own hole.

80 posted on 10/03/2011 4:12:11 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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