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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 September 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 25 September 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 09/25/2011 5:04:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



September 25th, 2011

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): White House adviser David Plouffe; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu; New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg; University of Miami President Donna Shalala; former Education Secretary William Bennett; Special Olympics chief executive officer Tim Shriver.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, head of the Democratic National Committee; Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Plouffe; British Prime Minister David Cameron; Hanan Ashrawi, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization's executive committee.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Plouffe; Gov. Mitch Daniels, R-Ind.; Sens. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., and Mark Warner, D-Va.


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To: Morgan in Denver

Every US Senator should be quizzed over why the Senate Democrats have not passed a budget and why so many House bills are not brought up for a vote.

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Just imagine how the various “Big Media Screaming Faces” would be hammering on this lack of a budget if Republicans were the ones holding it up. They would have charts and chalk boards and iPads and foaming at the mouth guests...


51 posted on 09/25/2011 6:49:42 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Chris Matthews idea of “fun politics” is when leftist activists destroy other people's stuff.

Someone should have kicked his ass when he was scheming with O'Neil.

52 posted on 09/25/2011 6:49:46 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: animal172

WOW! (getting back into chair)

Kristol just lauded Cain for being the only one talking about scrapping the tax code, ideas appropriate for the times.


53 posted on 09/25/2011 6:49:54 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: NautiNurse
As " weak" Governors are in Texas, I assume they're not required to do much negotiating. That's probably done in the "strong" legislature. Sad to say, but Perry looks like he'd not be a very good negotiator--debater if you will---who thinks well on his feet.

It appears to me that Perry's not fully into the job of winning the Presidency. He had to be tugged into the race. I believe he'd all but kicked off his boots on his retirement couch, but was enticed into one last try for a really big prize.

I believe he said he'd give it a try, using the style that carried the decade in Texas. That may not be enough for this job. I think he believes if the Rick Perry style doesn't work, so be it. He's not willing to work very hard at it. He'll happily head back to the couch.

54 posted on 09/25/2011 6:50:27 AM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Hume says Perry showed himself as no conservative because of his position on illegal immigration.

[Trouble is, most of the GOP field score a D on illegal immigration issues. They resort to the same ole canard: ‘secure the border’ (whatever that means), go to the end of the line, pay a fine, yada yada yada.]


55 posted on 09/25/2011 6:50:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: CincyRichieRich
I can see the MSM and CBC make an accusation that the TEA party / conservatives / GOP selection of Cain is a function of "copy cat" (not picking for the policies he articulates), and is itself an example of racism.

In other words, that the selection of Cain isn't evidence that the conservative movement is color blind; but rather, is evidence of the opposite.

Anything to divert attention from the policy issues.

56 posted on 09/25/2011 6:51:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TomGuy

Kristol!! I am on record since 2000 for despising that guy. Still think he instigated the Jeffords jump, know that he was the source of Quayle’s break with Dad Bush (which contributed to the loss), remember him pushing hard for Colin Powell until he gave up and went for McCain, know that he sat in with McCain advisers in lunch meetings to figure out how to stick it to Bush from the Senate.

Bad guy who skulks around the corridors of power causing trouble. Anytime he sticks his oar in, the waters get very troubled.


57 posted on 09/25/2011 6:51:17 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: maica

I don’t understand the idea that Sarah Palin would be a better candidate, much less have a great chance of winning, than Herman Cain.


58 posted on 09/25/2011 6:51:32 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks for the inside scoop!


59 posted on 09/25/2011 6:52:08 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: NautiNurse

Great points Nauti, I wrote this before the straw poll and yes Cain is a great choice. He came to an event in Oregon and spoke, even though I couldn’t make his speech people were very impressed. He could beat Obama and the debates would be worth the price of admission.

Pray for America


60 posted on 09/25/2011 6:52:29 AM PDT by bray (Sarah is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: Morgan in Denver
-- don't they realize or accept that spending bills come from the House BECAUSE the US House is body closest to the people and represents what the people want? --

What has to originate in the House are bills that are for the purpose of raising revenue - tax bills, and tax bills only.

Spending bills can originate in either chamber.

This made more sense when the federal government more or less stayed within its enumerated spending powers.

61 posted on 09/25/2011 6:54:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: GAgal

Agree. I like Palin very much and will give her serious consideration if she gets in.

Whether she can win the nomination is up in the air. She has a lot of dedicated followers, but I do not know if that will be enough.

I like Cain as well. In some ways he has a better resume than she does. They sure would be a formidable team!


62 posted on 09/25/2011 6:54:30 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: TomGuy
is necessary because the current crop of GOP wannabes aren’t demonstrating much leadership capability.

All of the GOP canidates have much better leadership skills then 0, Pelosie and Reid combined. Gregory displays with that question a level of ignorance inexcusable is a so called " Journalists"

63 posted on 09/25/2011 6:56:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: maica

Agreed, which is why I wrote that. We already know the MSM won’t do it unless there is a clamoring from the public.


64 posted on 09/25/2011 6:56:35 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Miss Marple

Brit Hume: “Unless the Republicans nominate some freak.”


65 posted on 09/25/2011 6:56:35 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: GAgal

McCain/Palin didn’t quite make it.

Perhaps Palin/Cain or Cain/Palin will.

Herman Cain has a wonderful history, and strong conservative principles, but his pushing a total tax reform is not going to be a winner among the huge middle group of voters in our country.

It may be fabulous as a policy, but it cannot be debated during a national election campaign. It is a turn-off.

Steve Forbes also had great transformative ideas. Didn’t get him very far when he ran.


66 posted on 09/25/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
We are now seeing a huge void starting to develop in the presidential race

No we are not. I glad you love your candidate of choice and want her in the race but by disparaging all the other candidates like this you are carrying the Democrat party's propaganda line.

It is total nonsense.

It has no base what so ever in fact.

You will not generate support for you candidate by trash talking all the other ones

67 posted on 09/25/2011 6:58:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: CincyRichieRich

You are going to find that the lamestream, Democrat, Liberal. Left-Wing media will downplay the Herman Cain massive victory in the Florida straw poll big time!!! As usual, they and the political establishments of both political parties do not have a clue that a citizen/voter revolution is in strong progress. Both Perry and Romney are out!!! The Republican ticket, thanks to the Tea Party, will truly be a fully conservative choice. The Herman Cain win is a game changer!!! First it says, “Democrat Party, POTUS Obama, VP, Joe Biden, Congressional Black Caucus, NAACP take your Black racism and stick it where the sun does not shine. The Tea Party is not racist at all. You folks are!!! Second, and more important, the Cain victory sends the message to the Republican establishment types that we, the people, are damned sick and tired of politically correct types like Mitt Romney & Rick Perry!!! This race is not yet underway and much will happen and change until a Pubbie nominee is selected. However, Herman Cain has proved, he is truly a man of courage & determination for all seasons!!! God bless you sir and all your loved ones. Thank for you magnificent service to our country. And......as a side bar, watch how the mainstream media ignores and demeans the Black man that changed the political game in America!!! However, their weak banter and spin will not work at all!!! Herman Cain, this morning is “The American” ......and the American people will not forget his contribution to our country and freedom!!!


68 posted on 09/25/2011 7:00:02 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Alas Babylon!

Just watched panel on FNS. They talked about the current field and the possibility of someone else getting in.

They absolutely made a point of not even mentioning the name Gov Sarah Palin....what a bunch of A HOLES they all are

Only one they mention is the fat RINO Christie. They continue to disrespect Gov Palin, who is on the verge of announcing her run.

They figure if they ignore her she will go away, I think they must really believe that


69 posted on 09/25/2011 7:00:12 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (`SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: TomGuy
Wallace makes a big deal about Cain winning the FL straw poll That is a serious difference.
70 posted on 09/25/2011 7:00:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Brit Hume, on the panel, just mentioned the lack of a Senate budget bill, minutes from the end of the program.


71 posted on 09/25/2011 7:01:26 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Cboldt

You’re right, of course. I should have double checked what I wrote better.


72 posted on 09/25/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

And would Bret care to define “some freak?”


73 posted on 09/25/2011 7:02:01 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: Miss Marple

I assumed he meant Ron Paul.


74 posted on 09/25/2011 7:04:12 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: All

Palin-backers! Listen to me, please!

If Sarah Palin wins the omination, she will need the support of ALL Republicans!You will not get that by trashing their candidates in the primaries!

Take a page from herman Cain, and talk up your candidate’s good points, instead of trashing others. As can be seen by the Florida Straw Poll, people respond to that.

You are turning people off by making nasty cracks, and it is not doing Palin any good.


75 posted on 09/25/2011 7:05:34 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: chiller

After 3 debate appearances, each being worse than the previous, I have to agree. Perry's run is starting to resemble Thompson's lackluster run in 2008. Perry was very unprepared on too many issues, and it was obvious.

I am not sure who would be a better candidate. Either the GOP fields a candidate with a strong political history or they field an ad-man who is a sparkling speaker. I don't see any who are both.

Is debate skills preferable over policies?

The most articulate GOP candidate is the one who has the most baggage and wouldn't get as many Electoral votes as John McCain.

The GOP is facing one of the politically weakest candidates since Jimmy Carter, and their field of wannabes is falling apart. Romney has the most experience running for president, Gingrich is the best orator, but none of the current crop seems to appeal to more than a small percentage of votes.

Of course, the actual primary voting hasn't even started yet.

This could be another 1996 or 2008 -- the GOP pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory.
76 posted on 09/25/2011 7:06:28 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!

Sad state of affairs, that when a Black man of conservative bent wins a major straw poll by a landslide, and......changes the political game overnight, not one, not one of these Sunday morning shows moved to put him on. Well, American Black folk, you have now witnessed your allies, the liberal, Democrat media at work, keeping you folks down on the economic slavery farm!!! Hopefully, some day, you will wake up and realize liberals, Obama, the CBC and the NAACP are no friends of the American Black community!!!


77 posted on 09/25/2011 7:08:54 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: CincyRichieRich

It goes against their Tea Party is racist groupthink. They can dismiss us because we are racist, sexist, homophobes who are not in the thinking of the establishment.

This vote was not about his color but his ideas and articulation. It destroys their entire Salinski model. Liberals are the true racists.


78 posted on 09/25/2011 7:09:02 AM PDT by bray (Sarah is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

And to think there was a time when I used to care what Brit and Bill said?

And to think I at one point used to say thank God for Fox News. They are now just part of the MSM, not fair and balanced. I suggest they drop all that from their advertising, they are not fair and balanced anymore, they do not....report and let us decide

Fox News is pathetic, with few exceptions. There poll has the credibility of News Week


79 posted on 09/25/2011 7:09:02 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (`SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: TomGuy

I totally disagree. I find that Perry, Romney and Cain could all be possibilities, and Palin, too, if she gets in.

Newt carries too much baggage, but is a great idea guy. bachmann has unfortunately made too many gaffes, plus hiring Rollins indicated a serious lack of judgement or awareness of his reputation.

Quit talking our people down. They are ALL far better than any of the past democrat candidates (Gore, Kerry) and far better than Obama. It is not a weak field at all.


80 posted on 09/25/2011 7:10:30 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: Friendofgeorge
there was a time when I used to care what Brit and Bill said?

Well, I think they made a couple of positive comments today. (See my posts up-thread)

81 posted on 09/25/2011 7:14:53 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Thanks for clarifying, since I didn’t watch. I usually catch the afternoon rerun on FNC.

Also interesting is that I cannot find Herman Cain’s blockbuster speech on YouTube. Might be just a delay in posting, so will keep an eye out for it.


82 posted on 09/25/2011 7:16:37 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: bray
As usual, bray, you hit all the nails on the head.

I was hopeful for Perry, but he is turning into a huge disappointment for the very reasons you state.

Sarah is the best one to take on the Herculean task of dismantling of the Marxist cabals which have taken over Washington and the media. Most of the rest of the candidates are apt to be either co-opted or flattened by them and it will be "game over" for our Republic. That is why she is so feared by them. They know she will go after them and tear them out root and branch.

Why go with a second fiddle when we can play with the first?

83 posted on 09/25/2011 7:17:35 AM PDT by Gritty (Rather than building bridges, Obama is poisoning wells - Rep. Paul Ryan)
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To: maica
Why would Palin accept #2 spot on any ticket? Been there; done that.

Her run in 2008 as the VP nominee should put her at the top or not-at-all for 2012. Currently, she is still choosing not-at-all.

Her VP-nominee status gives her an edge for 2012, but does her political experience make her a better candidate?

The GOP elites would certainly do everything in their power to defeat her. They would prefer the status quo over.

==

If the GOP does field a candidate who wins in 2012, that new president is going to inherit one hell of a mess that makes the mess Obama inherited look like a picnic.

The question we should be asking is this:


84 posted on 09/25/2011 7:19:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: All
It's like the tortoise and the hare..with Cain the tortoise. He'll just keep plodding away, earning more and more fans along the way, while other candidates fall by the side. This is a marathon, not a sprint, and Cain's got the experience, the personal story, the principles, and the genuine likability to beat Obama, and all while generating the fewest enemies along the way. With the $1 billion+ negative ad tsunami the Dems are planning, Herman Cain is the best we could hope for imo, given that those like Ryan and Pence have opted out.
85 posted on 09/25/2011 7:21:08 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: chiller

Well, I’m a Texan and I like Perry. I don’t want to turn this into a Perry lovin’ or Perry bashing thread. I haven’t even been able to get on Free Republic much this week because of the horrible bashing of Perry.

In spite of Cain’s charm and good ideas (like his 9,9,9 plan) I don’t think he can win. Obama has ruined it for blacks for a couple of go rounds, just another great thing he’s done.

Also, you must realize that once Cain starts to be taken seriously, the attacks will start and any wart will be given a biopsy. I think his health would become a big issue if he became a serious contender.

I really still think it’s between Perry and Romney and people don’t seem to realize how much better Perry would be than Romney.

I’m praying Sarah gets in, though.


86 posted on 09/25/2011 7:22:09 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: GAgal

You make a good point.


87 posted on 09/25/2011 7:22:37 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: Miss Marple

One hundred Amens, Miss Marple. Make that a thousand.


88 posted on 09/25/2011 7:23:39 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: altura

The bashing of ALL candidates should stop. Regardless of who gets the nomination, they will need the support of all of the GOP to win, and gratuitous bashing causes bad feelings (see McCain, John, who got lackluster support due to his constant stabbing of Bush).

Whether you support him or not, Cain has managed to make himself a contender without attacking anyone but Barack Obama. There is a lesson there for those who are paying attention.


89 posted on 09/25/2011 7:26:02 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Exactly, when will they get someone who can speak for real Conservatives talking about real solutions. We get a bunch of Country Clubbers telling everyone what we should be thinking rather than simply reporting.

They should have been all over the Cain win since they moved their studio to FL, likely to interview Perry or Mitt. Rather we hear their whining about nobody won who represented them.


90 posted on 09/25/2011 7:26:16 AM PDT by bray (Sarah is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Who they really need to interview, other than Cain, is John McCain.
NOW THAT WOULD BE A GREAT INTERVIEW
They need to find of what McCanin thinks of Cain without actually having Cain on....why would they want to interview Cain..shesh../s

They should ask Wasserman Sargeant Schulz what she thinks of Cane..haha..and is she aware he is black?


91 posted on 09/25/2011 7:27:53 AM PDT by Leep
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To: TomGuy

Again: SARAH!

BTW, the Netanyahu interview on MTP is Must See TV!!!

Talk about the ability to see clearly and explain with ease.

Discussing the two-state situation, Gregory asked a “question” by reading a long quote of Bill Clinton that was critical of Bibi, and he just responded: In the Camp David meeting in 2000 convened by Clinton, it was Arafat who walked away from the parameters set by Clinton.


92 posted on 09/25/2011 7:27:53 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I thought Netanyahu did a great job parrying against Dave Gregory, who was trying to thow him under the bus as Bibi asserted.

Morning all. I have already attended mass this morning, I sang with the choir, I am busy doing my kitchen stuff as I do on Sundays.

Thank you AB, for doing this thread well and with kind hand.

Got lots of thoughts today about Cain, Perry and the X Factor.

You read right, The X Factor. For it is, yon ladies and gems, an experiment in socialism regarding talent and sad stories. What I found out during my interview with Simon Cowell.

That’s right, my interview with Simon Cowell! You will be shocked.

For now, let me catch up on yon wisdom types while I sang and if so moved, I will contribute some wisdom of my own.


93 posted on 09/25/2011 7:30:01 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: TomGuy
BTW, it a straw poll in a must win battle ground state that cannot be spammed by paid for campaign workers which is different for the other straw polls you cited

Fla (Swing State) Electoral votes 29

Iowa (traditional blue state) Electoral votes 6

Margin of Cain victory more then Perry-Romeny-Santorum combined

94 posted on 09/25/2011 7:30:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: GAgal; ROCKLOBSTER

Sorry but for me it`s Sarah Palin or bust.


95 posted on 09/25/2011 7:31:19 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (`SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Miss Marple

Yes. The ‘debate’ formula is not conducive to doing what you suggest as the networks who put them on (and who decided that was okay?) want fights and fights between the candidates not against Obama.

The candidates need to rise above that, ignore the barbs and concentrate on their plan and the need to defeat Obama.

Cain was definitely the grown-up in the debate and Santorum took over Michelle’s role as the screaming baby.

But people have short memories and there is plenty of time for the candidates to give mature, well thought out plans for the future.

They would have all been better off to tell the News Channels to stuff it.


96 posted on 09/25/2011 7:31:38 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: altura
I don’t think he can win

With even Ron Paul polling with single digits of O, any GOP candidate can beat O.

BTW, deciding who to support based on polls at this point is silly.

The two GOP frontrunners in national polls in late September 2007 were Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson. The Democratic frontrunners in a Gallup poll on September 24, 2003 were Wesley Clark and Howard Dean.

97 posted on 09/25/2011 7:35:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Oh gee, I see ole Wassername is on again. What a vile, nasty woman!


98 posted on 09/25/2011 7:37:57 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Wallace opens the show with crediting Herman Cain with winning the FL straw poll.

That had to break his heart! He's been shilling, as has most of Foxnews, for Mittens for some time now! Ouch....

99 posted on 09/25/2011 7:40:24 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: ThreePuttinDude

I’ve commented how Mitt reminds me of a
used car salesman at a N/E Rolls Royce dealer.
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Please, there are no “ used car salesmen” at Rolls Royce dealerships. They are referred to as “pre-owned automobile specialists”


100 posted on 09/25/2011 7:41:42 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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