Posted on 11/23/2010 6:13:38 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
He sounds like Rusty Shackleford to me.
Perhaps you’ve heard of Timothy McVeigh or Gordon Kahl or Eric Rudolph or Robert Matthews.
I don’t doubt the media went looking for the nuttiest one they could find for the interview. He destroys his own credibility they same way every other anarchist does. The bit about not paying his mortgage doesn’t help his case a lot.
You’re absolutely right about the media. However, luckily for them, the “nuttiest” sovereign ideologist is more a matter of degree rather than kind.
Please add me to your CWII ping list.
perhaps you never heard that McVeigh was working with MUSLIMS in OKC and Jayna Davis wrote a book on it called THE THIRD TERRORIST?
Perhaps you never heard that Eric Rudolph was always considered a LONER and a religious extremist who was rejected by every church that existed and had zero followers and therefore is NOT what the subject is about?
Gordon Kahl and Robert Matthews who?? If those guys were so famous and Right Wing militia types and so dangerous, why arent their names known like McVeigh and Rudolph?
Whether or not any of them were "loners" or poorly socialized, or even if Davis' speculations were believable, it would not change the fact that all four were products of the constitutionalist/militia/patriot movement.
If you don't know who Kahl or Matthews were, it really doesn't matter - they are well known to history and to the families of the people they murdered.
Your destruction of rational discourse through mocking ridicule, hyperbolic insults and base slander has been adequate for the purpose of shutting down the germane legal topics of this thread. The presumptive administrative jurisdictional powers thank you for your efforts. You will receive two extra happy stickers in your pay envelope. Please return to your wall niche and recharge until further notice. Wipe your mouth, you're frothing again. That is all.
He sounds like Presidential material.
Passing over the unintentional irony of your word salad, I just have to point out that this individual offers exactly no “germane legal theories.” He lives in a fantasy world unconnected to the Constitution of the Founding Fathers.
tHEN I GUESS THEY’RE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY LUNATIC INDIVIDUAL AND NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF ANY MASS MOVEMENT, THEY JUST HAPPENED TO BELONG TO ONE?
Sorry, caplock, too lazy to correct. :)
McVeigh was involved with and had contacts in many "patriot" and militia circles, most prominently the separatists of Elohim City.
Rudolph did as well - he was on the run for years and was likely assisted by associates of groups that he had contact with in the past.
Kahl was one of the organizers of the Posse Comitatus/Township Sovereignty movement that counted thousands of members in the 1980s. When he was killed in his final shootout he was staying with the leader of a Neo-Confederate separatist militia known as the "Covenant Sword And Arm Of The Lord" (CSA). Kahl was also a member of the Christian Identity/British Israelite movement.
Robert Matthews was a longtime member of the John Birch Society before he started the Bruder Schweigen group of the Aryan Nations separatists. Like Kahl he was also a member of the Christian Identity movement.
It is dishonest to pretend that these individuals are completely sui generis without any connections to the seedier, stupider side of the Constitutionalist/patriot movement.
As dishonest as it is for leftists and Muslims to pretend that they have nothing to do with the New Black Panther Party or Al-Qaeda.
This is why it is essential for authentic patriots and supporters of the Constitution to disassociate themselves from, criticize and reject idiots like these "sovereignty" cultists.
Now its called “The Obama Administration” and still has the support of ~39% of the population...
Do you honestly believe that our current government follows the US Constitution? If you reply Yes then I will have no further remarks. If you say No, then why is this man a moron?
In a number of important respects it does not.
why is this man a moron?
He apparently thinks that the US Constitution allows him to declare himself a personal sovereign, that it allows him to create his own currency that must be accepted as legal tender, that it allows him to decide whether or not he wants to pay taxes, and that it allows him to violate contracts with impunity.
This means that he is a person who is mentally incapable of reading a straightforwardly worded document that is only about 20 pages long - i.e. a moron.
Legal tender should be anything that people will accept, Myself I prefer gold or silver coins.
Taxes is a subject that I love. We have parasites voting to increase their benefits. I think only property owners should be allowed to vote on taxes for the many things which property owners are the primary supporters of such as public schools.
>>it allows him to violate contracts with impunity<<
Your evidence of this is what?
>>Do you honestly believe that our current government follows the US Constitution?
In a number of important respects it does not.<<
Yet you support their right to do so and of course they should remain in authority of the people. Correct?
His admitted refusal to pay his mortgage using funds that are legal tender.
Governments don't have rights. They have powers.
"In authority of the people" isn't English and is therefore ambiguous.
If you're asking me whether I believe that people who violate their oath of office should remain in office, then no.
If you're asking me whether I believe that the dereliction of duty by an elected official gives citizens the option to ignore the law of the land, my answer is also no.
“I paid for the house, that’s all I’ll say about it. The house is paid for in full,” Summers said.
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