McVeigh was involved with and had contacts in many "patriot" and militia circles, most prominently the separatists of Elohim City.
Rudolph did as well - he was on the run for years and was likely assisted by associates of groups that he had contact with in the past.
Kahl was one of the organizers of the Posse Comitatus/Township Sovereignty movement that counted thousands of members in the 1980s. When he was killed in his final shootout he was staying with the leader of a Neo-Confederate separatist militia known as the "Covenant Sword And Arm Of The Lord" (CSA). Kahl was also a member of the Christian Identity/British Israelite movement.
Robert Matthews was a longtime member of the John Birch Society before he started the Bruder Schweigen group of the Aryan Nations separatists. Like Kahl he was also a member of the Christian Identity movement.
It is dishonest to pretend that these individuals are completely sui generis without any connections to the seedier, stupider side of the Constitutionalist/patriot movement.
As dishonest as it is for leftists and Muslims to pretend that they have nothing to do with the New Black Panther Party or Al-Qaeda.
This is why it is essential for authentic patriots and supporters of the Constitution to disassociate themselves from, criticize and reject idiots like these "sovereignty" cultists.
Do you honestly believe that our current government follows the US Constitution? If you reply Yes then I will have no further remarks. If you say No, then why is this man a moron?
NONE of McVeigh’s or Rudolph’s actions were related to their sketchy relationships with militia types
Neither are the militias that McVeigh is known to befriended nor Rudolph’s associated with sovereignty groups
You keep making assumptions that fit your scenarios
Sometimes people are just whacked, sometimes they are associated with muslims from Iraq like McVeigh and sometimes they are lunatic murders like Rudolph.
I know several people in the sovereignty-ish movements, those who heavily pursue Obama and the birth certificate issue issue and such who would NEVER associate with a militia knowingly and would disassociate themselves from that association once it was found out.
You are making a straw man argument based on innuendo, not proven association just because you dont like that man’s methods of dissent.