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Nike Resigns Michael Vick: Tell Them What You Think Of That
self | September 30, 2009 | self

Posted on 09/30/2009 7:21:57 PM PDT by blake6900

Nike has announced they've resigned Michael Vick to an advertising contract. You can tell them what you think of that by clicking here


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nfl; nike; vanity; vick
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To: Onerom99

Not at all. I want government out of it. Nike did it, let them either succeed or fail on their own.


51 posted on 09/30/2009 8:05:53 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: Onerom99

Very economical. It only took three posts to the truth.


52 posted on 09/30/2009 8:07:54 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: juggernaut

You eat chicken??

Where are they on your “Species of Importance” rankings?


53 posted on 09/30/2009 8:10:01 PM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Onerom99

‘thanking them for not burying someone in the ground who already served their debt to society.’

23 months for torturing animals, does not mean he has paid his debt to society


54 posted on 09/30/2009 8:13:11 PM PDT by GregH
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To: GregH

Not paid his debt to you, maybe.

But as far as the laws of this country go, by the people, he has repaid his debt to society.

He’s clear on my book.


55 posted on 09/30/2009 8:15:02 PM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Onerom99

I’m not a member of the ‘dogs and cats are livestock’ crowd. I leave that to puppy mill breeders and their ilk.


56 posted on 09/30/2009 8:15:25 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: WatchOutForSnakes

Under the law (for the most part :-) ), that is indeed the case. For the most part. Again, it comes back to the issue of ‘severity’. The severity of the crime(s). Human beings, as we are, are always going to judge the actions of others based on their ‘severity’. I do it, you do it, we all do it.

Here’s the problem, as i see it....there are very many people who have an emotional component attached to Vick’s crimes...after all, most people at least like dogs. Me? I love them. let me ask you honestly tho...if Vick had been tried and convicted for abusing cockatiels, would there have been the huge outcry? Again, it goes back to severity.

I understand your position, FRiend. I do. I just think the young man has fulfilled the requirements the Fed imposed on him, and he should be allowed to resume his life as he knows it. BUT, I don’t think he should ever be allowed to own a dog. :-)

Wait...that may be a better rehabilitation than prison...not dogs, just a dog. :-) Anyway, thank you all for the intellectual bantering, and all thots are just my opinion and nothing more. Good night!


57 posted on 09/30/2009 8:17:27 PM PDT by WVRockDJ (Mountaineer by birth; USMC by choice; Christian by Grace.)
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To: blake6900

My comment: I’m extremely disappointed that Nike has decided to resign Michael Vick to an endorsement contract. Please know that I will not be purchasing any Nike products for the duration of this endorsement.


58 posted on 09/30/2009 8:20:34 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: blake6900

Whoever wrote this is a moron.


59 posted on 09/30/2009 8:21:56 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: GregB

Give the names of any pro athletes convicted of domestic violence who have current endorsement contracts and I will contact those companies to express my displeasure and let them know I am boycotting their products.


60 posted on 09/30/2009 8:22:53 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: WVRockDJ

Ditto


61 posted on 09/30/2009 8:23:36 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: everyone
Apparently some of you didn't get the gist of my post. I realize Vick served his sentence within the parameters of the law. And that's done. However, there were several families in his (and other) neighborhoods whose pet dogs wound up missing and there is evidence that those dogs were used for the purpose of training Vick's fighting dogs. Some of those families were probably devastated to find their animals missing. To then learn that their pets may have ended up being killed for the purpose of teaching pit bulls to fight is just not something I'm willing to forget, or move on from. I'm not sure how someone explains that to a child. Perhaps they shouldn't try but one thing's for sure. They should never have to consider it at all...not in this society.

If you don't agree, fine. But there was absolutely no reason that I can think of to insult me over it. If you want to continue supporting Nike's product line, do so. I won't. That should be it. Unfortunately too many people here get very gutsy sitting in front of a keyboard and they often type things they would never say out loud. As for me, I wouldn't be near as civil in response were I not.

To the person who said he's writing Nike to extend his support for their decision: go ahead. However, my guess is you won't be writing them anything. You just wanted to pop off at me. Hope it made you feel good. But know this: You didn't change my mind one iota. You simply made your moniker more memorable and I'll be looking forward to more idiocy from you in the future.

62 posted on 09/30/2009 8:24:45 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: blake6900

Is Nike merging with Hush Puppies?


63 posted on 09/30/2009 8:24:56 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Windflier
This is about the worst market positioning error that I've seen on the part of a well-known multi-national company in a very long time. No matter what you may think about Michael Vick personally, he'll be radioactive until the day he dies to millions of consumers. There will forever be something of a "scarlet letter" stamped on this guy. I think it's suicidal for Nike to associate their name with his.

The network football announcers already have their marching orders. They were praising MV last weekend.

If he has a good game, this will all be history. I hope I am wrong.

64 posted on 09/30/2009 8:25:57 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: blake6900

Well said.


65 posted on 09/30/2009 8:27:27 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: Onerom99
If Vick was a School Teacher would you be okay with him being rehired after this conviction??? If not, why not? Everyone knows that pro athletes are role models for children - teachers can also be viewed as role models. So, what message was just sent to the youth of this country who are closely watching the Michael Vick saga? IMHO Vick can pursue a job in the real world, but he should have blown his chance to get back to the pedastal of pro sports.
66 posted on 09/30/2009 8:29:20 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: blake6900

Good for him! He made a terrible mistake and has paid a tremendous price by losing 2 years of his life and tens of millions of dollars.

As it appears for now, he has rehabilitated himself and is doing his part to bring awareness to the crimes he was guilty of.


67 posted on 09/30/2009 8:34:43 PM PDT by chad_in_georgia
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To: Onerom99
How does dogfighting mean no longer allowed to play football? To no longer being allowed to be a veternarian or dogcatcher? Okay valid comparison.

Nobody said he shouldn't be allowed to play football.

You know as well as I do that when a company hires a movie star or athlete (or any celebrity for that matter) to represent it that company does so to attract buyers to its' services or products. Nike hired Vick. Whether he "paid his debt to society" or not isn't relevant to me. What is relevant is whether I want to buy products from a company that apparently doesn't think his behavior was that bad in the first place. If you don't understand that or you disagree, fair enough. But I for one never said he didn't have a right to earn a living. In fact, my complaint isn't with Michael Vick at all. It's with Nike. OK?

68 posted on 09/30/2009 8:36:12 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: WVRockDJ

I love dogs as well but generally speaking I don’t think anyone should be placed in jail for harming an animal of their own. Of course that’s not what he went to jail for it was dogfighting which is a federal crime.

But until we start imprisoning farmers (which we shouldn’t) human beings should not be placed in jail for mistreatment of their own animal. Take the animals away, fine them maybe. But put a person behind bars? No.


69 posted on 09/30/2009 8:41:31 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams
But until we start imprisoning farmers (which we shouldn’t) human beings should not be placed in jail for mistreatment of their own animal. Take the animals away, fine them maybe. But put a person behind bars? No.

Please read posts #62 & 68.

70 posted on 09/30/2009 8:44:09 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: SoldierDad

>>If Vick was a School Teacher would you be okay with him being rehired after this conviction???

Yes. I wouldn’t have a problem with it one bit. He could end up being a great example of what not to do.

>>IMHO Vick can pursue a job in the real world, but he should have blown his chance to get back to the pedastal of pro sports.

LOL.. Real world in your eyes? If Vick were a doctor, would be allowed to open his own practice after this? You don’t see the dangerous road your going down? Vick is a football player. If a football team wants him then there is no reason to prevent him from doing so.

The arguments from you folks is assanine.


71 posted on 09/30/2009 8:45:41 PM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: blake6900

Right. It begs the question...There are so many great upstanding NFL stars that are faith and family oriented that never get a call from a high profile sports company. Why is a company like Nike attracted to (people) like this?


72 posted on 09/30/2009 8:45:49 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: WVRockDJ; Texas4ever
No, WV it is not a straw argument. Studies have shown that someone who is capable of such cruelty is capable of taking it to the next step. You both mentioned that once someone has done their time, they should be welcomed back into society and given a second chance. I believe you are both hypocrites if you aren't willing to take that same statement to whoever has done his time. So gang bangers, drug dealers, even pedophiles - you should be more than willing to have them come around for a beer or an iced tea.

I admit, you are both much more understanding than I am - I don't even want a liberal in my house, much less someone who has broken the law.

73 posted on 09/30/2009 8:48:57 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Blankety blankety blank)
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To: Williams

With all due respect, you don’t love dogs.


74 posted on 09/30/2009 8:49:02 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: juggernaut
Why is a company like Nike attracted to (people) like this? Nike's run by liberals. And frankly, their shoes are overpriced.
75 posted on 09/30/2009 8:49:08 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: chad_in_georgia

He was FORCED to answer for his crimes. Didn’t volunteer for it. Yes he deserves to live free now according to the law. And we the people are free to shun him, boycott him, hate him, etc. if we so choose. No evidence he is truly sorry it’s a judgment call. He has financial and PR reasons for acting contrite. He needs to do it a lot longer than a few months to convince me of anything. Dude is a scumbag.


76 posted on 09/30/2009 8:50:17 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Onerom99

You are entitled to your opinion. I will excersize my opinion through not supporting either the Eagles or Nike (nor any other company that endorses this man). It’s great to live in America where you are permitted to excersize your rights even when YOU are wrong.


77 posted on 09/30/2009 8:52:46 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: Onerom99
Yes. I wouldn’t have a problem with it one bit. He could end up being a great example of what not to do.

Really? Sure about your logic? Wouldn't a child molester or murderer who went to jail be a "great example" of what not to do also? How about we put people in front of our children who are example of what TO do?

BTW, I'm not arguing he shouldn't be allowed to play football. But teaching kids would be a big no. Most schools have a policy about convicted felons.
78 posted on 09/30/2009 8:53:06 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: blake6900

Nike also wants to stay IN with the thug culture. Thugs in da hood still love Vick, not for what he may be doing or saying NOW, but for what he did that put him in jail. If anyone doesn’t believe me, spend some time in some of the more “intown” parts of Atlanta. Vick jerseys and pit bulls abound.


79 posted on 09/30/2009 8:55:19 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I don't even want a liberal in my house, much less someone who has broken the law.

LOL, often one in the same I think.

BTW, I agree with your assessment. Their premise was indeed "once someone has done their time, they should be welcomed back into society and given a second chance". Maybe not welcomed back but at least not banished from society. Now that you've nailed them with their own agrument they're trying to create wiggle room. It is not a straw argument. It is a difference without distinction.

80 posted on 09/30/2009 8:56:00 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: blake6900

OK, I would lock a guy up for stealing someone’s dog and I would impose a greater penalty for stealing and harming a dog.

However, your post did not convince me that Vick stole anyone’s dog.

Further,most of the people who want Vick ruined for life or even posted things at the time that he should be killed the way the dogs were, were not basing that on theft of family pets. They heard what was done to the fighting dogs and that was the reaction.

Vick did go to jail and that is more than enough for me in this case. Would I hire him for my company spokesman? Nope. But it sounds like it’s just a deal to wear their stuff.


81 posted on 09/30/2009 8:56:30 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

So, as long as you torture and kill you’re own dogs, it’s not criminal....But, torture and kill your neighbor’s ,..well, that’s a different story.

Beam me up...


82 posted on 09/30/2009 9:04:07 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: Williams
However, your post did not convince me that Vick stole anyone’s dog.

His "business associates" did it with his knowledge. He also admitted, in his plea agreement, that together with his co-defendants, he killed approximately 6-8 dogs that did not perform well. Vick admitted to killing the dogs “by various methods, including including hanging and drowning".

But it sounds like it’s just a deal to wear their stuff.

...and by doing so, entice others to purchase their stuff. I simply said, "I won't" and somehow that got turned into an allegation that I wanted Michael Vick killed or other such nonsense.

I don't like Vick for what he did, I won't forget it and I won't move on from it. And I won't support the Eagles for hiring him (but I already hated the Eagles). If he can get a job, good for him. But none of my money will go toward his paycheck much the same as I refused to buy Dixie Chicks products simply because I disliked what they said. I have that right and I'm exercising it.

83 posted on 09/30/2009 9:11:13 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Studies? Sources, please. So, what you’re saying is that if I get a speeding ticket, then by default I’m capable of taking it to the next step, ie DUI. So, should I be treated as someone who will be a DUI offender instead of a speeding ticket? What’s the next step after that? Vehicular manslaughter? Do you see the fallacy of your argument? By your own standards, once we’ve been served with a speeding ticket we’re capable of ‘taking it to that next step, and judged accordingly’?

Wow. You continue to try to buttress your emotional reaction to the man and what he did by trying to use logic, and that never works well. Again, you equate gangbangers, drug dealers, pedophiliacs, and speeders as the same? Based on your rationale, you have no choice but to lump in the minor crimes with the major. Have you ever had someone who’s had a parking ticket in your house for a beer or an iced tea. It seems hypocrisy is not only my realm, FRiend.

The argument is indeed a straw argument.


84 posted on 09/30/2009 9:19:26 PM PDT by WVRockDJ (Mountaineer by birth; USMC by choice; Christian by Grace.)
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To: Onerom99
I really don’t care. Chickens are raised in brutal conditions too.

That's some serious moral equivalence there, equating the less-than-pampered status of chickens (used for food) with the deliberately cruel torture and murder of dogs (done for entertainment). You remind me of the "War IS Terrorism" crowd.

85 posted on 09/30/2009 9:26:58 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: blake6900

Unfortunately, I can’t say this news is going to change my spending habits. I would have never spent money on overpriced Nike garbage anyway. Why would you spend money to advertise for Nike, with their signature Swoosh littering every piece of crap they produce? People’s retarded affinity for wearing clothes with corporate logos emblazoned on them has always amazed me.


86 posted on 09/30/2009 9:30:41 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: blake6900

If anyone really wanted to protest and have their protest “vote” counted all they would have to do is change channels when Michael Vick and his new team take to the air.

The Stations, Broadcasters, Advertisers are well aware of these numbers.

If Michael Vick or his team is/are playing I would rather watch “The 101st run of the Flintstones”


87 posted on 09/30/2009 9:33:11 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: WVRockDJ

yeah! for morally bankrupt cliches!


88 posted on 09/30/2009 9:38:06 PM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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To: Junior_G

” Unfortunately, I can’t say this news is going to change my spending habits. I would have never spent money on overpriced Nike garbage anyway. Why would you spend money to advertise for Nike, with their signature Swoosh littering every piece of crap they produce? People’s retarded affinity for wearing clothes with corporate logos emblazoned on them has always amazed me.”


I agree, Very well put statement.
I can think of a few. Victoria Secret “Pink” , Albacorney&Fink, Reeboock, AeroPastel and Old Navy and that stupid “RED” corporate corrupt slogan crap.
I would rather swallow my own puke than wear their corporate logo crap.


89 posted on 09/30/2009 9:42:26 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: ColdWater
The network football announcers already have their marching orders. They were praising MV last weekend. If he has a good game, this will all be history. I hope I am wrong.

None of that affects Nike's horrible marketing error. That's the only point I'm making. They've joined their brand and their public image with someone who a great many Americans despise.

It really doesn't matter if the honchos at Nike are ok with Michael Vick, or not. They're doing in their brand, and jeopardizing their sales with this move.

90 posted on 09/30/2009 9:43:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Onerom99

Yep


91 posted on 09/30/2009 9:47:43 PM PDT by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: Windflier

He did his time; more than most people do for third degree murder. Let it go.


92 posted on 09/30/2009 9:50:04 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: blake6900

I really don’t care. Bigger things on my mind.


93 posted on 09/30/2009 9:50:49 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

Good for you. Nothing to see here...keep moving.


94 posted on 09/30/2009 10:00:17 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: blake6900

Don’t buy anything nike. Is that so difficult? I don’t.


95 posted on 09/30/2009 10:02:07 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Become a monthly donor or FR won't be here for you!)
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To: Nonstatist
He did his time; more than most people do for third degree murder. Let it go.

You're missing my point.

I'm not arguing the Michael Vick dog fighting controversy, his imprisonment, related morality, or lack thereof, or anything about the back story.

I'm saying that Nike has made a horrendous marketing mistake by aligning their brand and their image with him.

You can argue that he served his time, so it's time we all let it go, but that won't stop millions of Americans from despising this guy forever.

Because of that fact, Nike's made a marketing blunder of monster proportions, which is going to cost them sales.

Again - this is about market positioning, and proper management of a major company's image. Nothing else.

96 posted on 09/30/2009 10:18:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: WVRockDJ
Here's a source for you:

According to a 1997 study done by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) and Northeastern University, animal abusers are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against people and four times more likely to commit property crimes than are individuals without a history of animal abuse.

Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder.

Now, I wasn't referring to speeding tickets or parking tickets and you know I wasn't - I said cruelty to animals led to other crimes. Gee I love how you apologists like to twist words though.

97 posted on 09/30/2009 10:22:33 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Blankety blankety blank)
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To: Nonstatist

Ok. He held dog’s heads under water until they drowned. Others, he hung them from their necks until they were dead. Others, he picked with his hands and slammed them to the ground until they were dead.

We’ll just let it go.


98 posted on 09/30/2009 10:27:56 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: blake6900

Nike lost me several years back with the black guy as Godlike giving the Nuremberg style podium to a bunch of swooning crackers

I don’t like being pandered to like I am into ghetto worship.

in fact I hate most marketing devised by today’s brainwashed kids for social engineering


99 posted on 09/30/2009 10:33:45 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: juggernaut

Whether or nor “torturing” or killing your own dog is criminal, a human being should not be placed in prison for the way they treat their dog. That is, if you have your priorities straight on the value of human contribution to society versus that of a person’s dog.

If you’ve ever watched one of the “Animal Cops” shows you’ll see plenty of old people in inner cities being handcuffed and hauled to jail because they malnourished a dog. A horrible mistreatment of humans and a horrible waste of police resources.

I wouldn’t harm a dog or cat but I eat plenty of slaughtered pigs, chickens and cows. Get back to me when the farmers are imprisoned.

Now you can be beamed up.


100 posted on 10/01/2009 6:42:51 AM PDT by Williams
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