Skip to comments.Nike Resigns Michael Vick: Tell Them What You Think Of That
Posted on 09/30/2009 7:21:57 PM PDT by blake6900
Nike has announced they've resigned Michael Vick to an advertising contract. You can tell them what you think of that by clicking here
Not at all. I want government out of it. Nike did it, let them either succeed or fail on their own.
Very economical. It only took three posts to the truth.
You eat chicken??
Where are they on your “Species of Importance” rankings?
‘thanking them for not burying someone in the ground who already served their debt to society.’
23 months for torturing animals, does not mean he has paid his debt to society
Not paid his debt to you, maybe.
But as far as the laws of this country go, by the people, he has repaid his debt to society.
He’s clear on my book.
I’m not a member of the ‘dogs and cats are livestock’ crowd. I leave that to puppy mill breeders and their ilk.
Under the law (for the most part :-) ), that is indeed the case. For the most part. Again, it comes back to the issue of ‘severity’. The severity of the crime(s). Human beings, as we are, are always going to judge the actions of others based on their ‘severity’. I do it, you do it, we all do it.
Here’s the problem, as i see it....there are very many people who have an emotional component attached to Vick’s crimes...after all, most people at least like dogs. Me? I love them. let me ask you honestly tho...if Vick had been tried and convicted for abusing cockatiels, would there have been the huge outcry? Again, it goes back to severity.
I understand your position, FRiend. I do. I just think the young man has fulfilled the requirements the Fed imposed on him, and he should be allowed to resume his life as he knows it. BUT, I don’t think he should ever be allowed to own a dog. :-)
Wait...that may be a better rehabilitation than prison...not dogs, just a dog. :-) Anyway, thank you all for the intellectual bantering, and all thots are just my opinion and nothing more. Good night!
My comment: I’m extremely disappointed that Nike has decided to resign Michael Vick to an endorsement contract. Please know that I will not be purchasing any Nike products for the duration of this endorsement.
Whoever wrote this is a moron.
Give the names of any pro athletes convicted of domestic violence who have current endorsement contracts and I will contact those companies to express my displeasure and let them know I am boycotting their products.
If you don't agree, fine. But there was absolutely no reason that I can think of to insult me over it. If you want to continue supporting Nike's product line, do so. I won't. That should be it. Unfortunately too many people here get very gutsy sitting in front of a keyboard and they often type things they would never say out loud. As for me, I wouldn't be near as civil in response were I not.
To the person who said he's writing Nike to extend his support for their decision: go ahead. However, my guess is you won't be writing them anything. You just wanted to pop off at me. Hope it made you feel good. But know this: You didn't change my mind one iota. You simply made your moniker more memorable and I'll be looking forward to more idiocy from you in the future.
Is Nike merging with Hush Puppies?
The network football announcers already have their marching orders. They were praising MV last weekend.
If he has a good game, this will all be history. I hope I am wrong.
Good for him! He made a terrible mistake and has paid a tremendous price by losing 2 years of his life and tens of millions of dollars.
As it appears for now, he has rehabilitated himself and is doing his part to bring awareness to the crimes he was guilty of.
Nobody said he shouldn't be allowed to play football.
You know as well as I do that when a company hires a movie star or athlete (or any celebrity for that matter) to represent it that company does so to attract buyers to its' services or products. Nike hired Vick. Whether he "paid his debt to society" or not isn't relevant to me. What is relevant is whether I want to buy products from a company that apparently doesn't think his behavior was that bad in the first place. If you don't understand that or you disagree, fair enough. But I for one never said he didn't have a right to earn a living. In fact, my complaint isn't with Michael Vick at all. It's with Nike. OK?
I love dogs as well but generally speaking I don’t think anyone should be placed in jail for harming an animal of their own. Of course that’s not what he went to jail for it was dogfighting which is a federal crime.
But until we start imprisoning farmers (which we shouldn’t) human beings should not be placed in jail for mistreatment of their own animal. Take the animals away, fine them maybe. But put a person behind bars? No.
Please read posts #62 & 68.
>>If Vick was a School Teacher would you be okay with him being rehired after this conviction???
Yes. I wouldn’t have a problem with it one bit. He could end up being a great example of what not to do.
>>IMHO Vick can pursue a job in the real world, but he should have blown his chance to get back to the pedastal of pro sports.
LOL.. Real world in your eyes? If Vick were a doctor, would be allowed to open his own practice after this? You don’t see the dangerous road your going down? Vick is a football player. If a football team wants him then there is no reason to prevent him from doing so.
The arguments from you folks is assanine.
Right. It begs the question...There are so many great upstanding NFL stars that are faith and family oriented that never get a call from a high profile sports company. Why is a company like Nike attracted to (people) like this?
I admit, you are both much more understanding than I am - I don't even want a liberal in my house, much less someone who has broken the law.
With all due respect, you don’t love dogs.
He was FORCED to answer for his crimes. Didn’t volunteer for it. Yes he deserves to live free now according to the law. And we the people are free to shun him, boycott him, hate him, etc. if we so choose. No evidence he is truly sorry it’s a judgment call. He has financial and PR reasons for acting contrite. He needs to do it a lot longer than a few months to convince me of anything. Dude is a scumbag.
You are entitled to your opinion. I will excersize my opinion through not supporting either the Eagles or Nike (nor any other company that endorses this man). It’s great to live in America where you are permitted to excersize your rights even when YOU are wrong.
Nike also wants to stay IN with the thug culture. Thugs in da hood still love Vick, not for what he may be doing or saying NOW, but for what he did that put him in jail. If anyone doesn’t believe me, spend some time in some of the more “intown” parts of Atlanta. Vick jerseys and pit bulls abound.
LOL, often one in the same I think.
BTW, I agree with your assessment. Their premise was indeed "once someone has done their time, they should be welcomed back into society and given a second chance". Maybe not welcomed back but at least not banished from society. Now that you've nailed them with their own agrument they're trying to create wiggle room. It is not a straw argument. It is a difference without distinction.
OK, I would lock a guy up for stealing someone’s dog and I would impose a greater penalty for stealing and harming a dog.
However, your post did not convince me that Vick stole anyone’s dog.
Further,most of the people who want Vick ruined for life or even posted things at the time that he should be killed the way the dogs were, were not basing that on theft of family pets. They heard what was done to the fighting dogs and that was the reaction.
Vick did go to jail and that is more than enough for me in this case. Would I hire him for my company spokesman? Nope. But it sounds like it’s just a deal to wear their stuff.
So, as long as you torture and kill you’re own dogs, it’s not criminal....But, torture and kill your neighbor’s ,..well, that’s a different story.
Beam me up...
His "business associates" did it with his knowledge. He also admitted, in his plea agreement, that together with his co-defendants, he killed approximately 6-8 dogs that did not perform well. Vick admitted to killing the dogs by various methods, including including hanging and drowning".
But it sounds like its just a deal to wear their stuff.
...and by doing so, entice others to purchase their stuff. I simply said, "I won't" and somehow that got turned into an allegation that I wanted Michael Vick killed or other such nonsense.
I don't like Vick for what he did, I won't forget it and I won't move on from it. And I won't support the Eagles for hiring him (but I already hated the Eagles). If he can get a job, good for him. But none of my money will go toward his paycheck much the same as I refused to buy Dixie Chicks products simply because I disliked what they said. I have that right and I'm exercising it.
Studies? Sources, please. So, what you’re saying is that if I get a speeding ticket, then by default I’m capable of taking it to the next step, ie DUI. So, should I be treated as someone who will be a DUI offender instead of a speeding ticket? What’s the next step after that? Vehicular manslaughter? Do you see the fallacy of your argument? By your own standards, once we’ve been served with a speeding ticket we’re capable of ‘taking it to that next step, and judged accordingly’?
Wow. You continue to try to buttress your emotional reaction to the man and what he did by trying to use logic, and that never works well. Again, you equate gangbangers, drug dealers, pedophiliacs, and speeders as the same? Based on your rationale, you have no choice but to lump in the minor crimes with the major. Have you ever had someone who’s had a parking ticket in your house for a beer or an iced tea. It seems hypocrisy is not only my realm, FRiend.
The argument is indeed a straw argument.
That's some serious moral equivalence there, equating the less-than-pampered status of chickens (used for food) with the deliberately cruel torture and murder of dogs (done for entertainment). You remind me of the "War IS Terrorism" crowd.
Unfortunately, I can’t say this news is going to change my spending habits. I would have never spent money on overpriced Nike garbage anyway. Why would you spend money to advertise for Nike, with their signature Swoosh littering every piece of crap they produce? People’s retarded affinity for wearing clothes with corporate logos emblazoned on them has always amazed me.
If anyone really wanted to protest and have their protest “vote” counted all they would have to do is change channels when Michael Vick and his new team take to the air.
The Stations, Broadcasters, Advertisers are well aware of these numbers.
If Michael Vick or his team is/are playing I would rather watch “The 101st run of the Flintstones”
yeah! for morally bankrupt cliches!
” Unfortunately, I cant say this news is going to change my spending habits. I would have never spent money on overpriced Nike garbage anyway. Why would you spend money to advertise for Nike, with their signature Swoosh littering every piece of crap they produce? Peoples retarded affinity for wearing clothes with corporate logos emblazoned on them has always amazed me.”
I agree, Very well put statement.
I can think of a few. Victoria Secret “Pink” , Albacorney&Fink, Reeboock, AeroPastel and Old Navy and that stupid “RED” corporate corrupt slogan crap.
I would rather swallow my own puke than wear their corporate logo crap.
None of that affects Nike's horrible marketing error. That's the only point I'm making. They've joined their brand and their public image with someone who a great many Americans despise.
It really doesn't matter if the honchos at Nike are ok with Michael Vick, or not. They're doing in their brand, and jeopardizing their sales with this move.
He did his time; more than most people do for third degree murder. Let it go.
I really don’t care. Bigger things on my mind.
Good for you. Nothing to see here...keep moving.
Don’t buy anything nike. Is that so difficult? I don’t.
You're missing my point.
I'm not arguing the Michael Vick dog fighting controversy, his imprisonment, related morality, or lack thereof, or anything about the back story.
I'm saying that Nike has made a horrendous marketing mistake by aligning their brand and their image with him.
You can argue that he served his time, so it's time we all let it go, but that won't stop millions of Americans from despising this guy forever.
Because of that fact, Nike's made a marketing blunder of monster proportions, which is going to cost them sales.
Again - this is about market positioning, and proper management of a major company's image. Nothing else.
According to a 1997 study done by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) and Northeastern University, animal abusers are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against people and four times more likely to commit property crimes than are individuals without a history of animal abuse.
Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder.
Now, I wasn't referring to speeding tickets or parking tickets and you know I wasn't - I said cruelty to animals led to other crimes. Gee I love how you apologists like to twist words though.
Ok. He held dog’s heads under water until they drowned. Others, he hung them from their necks until they were dead. Others, he picked with his hands and slammed them to the ground until they were dead.
We’ll just let it go.
Nike lost me several years back with the black guy as Godlike giving the Nuremberg style podium to a bunch of swooning crackers
I don’t like being pandered to like I am into ghetto worship.
in fact I hate most marketing devised by today’s brainwashed kids for social engineering
Whether or nor “torturing” or killing your own dog is criminal, a human being should not be placed in prison for the way they treat their dog. That is, if you have your priorities straight on the value of human contribution to society versus that of a person’s dog.
If you’ve ever watched one of the “Animal Cops” shows you’ll see plenty of old people in inner cities being handcuffed and hauled to jail because they malnourished a dog. A horrible mistreatment of humans and a horrible waste of police resources.
I wouldn’t harm a dog or cat but I eat plenty of slaughtered pigs, chickens and cows. Get back to me when the farmers are imprisoned.
Now you can be beamed up.