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Germany wants U.N. walkout if Amadinejad denies Holocaust
Reuters ^ | Sep 22, 2009 | Reuters

Posted on 09/22/2009 1:40:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Germany will walk out of the U.N. General Assembly if Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust in a speech he will give Wednesday, and it wants other European Union countries to do the same, the foreign ministry said.

"We will leave the hall if President Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust or makes anti-Semitic statements ... we are making efforts toward a unified European position," a spokesman said Tuesday.

Ahmadinejad has, as recently as last week, called the Holocaust a lie, repeating his position just as world powers try to decide how to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Denying the Holocaust, carried out by the Nazis in World War Two, is a crime in Germany. Last week German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier condemned Ahmadinejad's latest denial and called him a disgrace to his country.

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To: Nosterrex
Is this not bizarre?

I think you may not understand what the issue is with Germany. Germany knows they, (specifically the Nazi's) created the holocaust. They are appalled at their own guilt. Even those who were born long afterward are grieved by it. Just remember, Germany and Germans will carry the burden of it forever. They know it and have made it a crime to deny that it happened because they too wish to never forget. I guess it is part of their repentance. They will walk out because Ahmanutjob denies something that they know almost better than anyone can, (besides the Jewish people of course,) what really happened and they want everyone to know that they will not stand for anyone to deny it. That is the best I can explain it as it was explained to me by my Aunt who was a little girl in Hitler's Germany.

21 posted on 09/22/2009 2:24:29 PM PDT by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: Nosterrex

For contrast, look at the Russian approach. There, not only do they not apologize, it is becoming more and more illegal to mention Stalin’s even larger mass-murder during the terror of the ‘30s. Germany is the gold standard on how to behave after such an event.

Very arguably, the main reason they are overrun with arabs now, is that they could not bring themselves to exclude them because it seemed racist to them, and felt too much like their past. Poor decision, made for an honorable reason.

22 posted on 09/22/2009 2:27:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Nosterrex
“This is nothing but a political farce on Germany's part.”

That's just stupid. Nazism is illegal in Germany unlike in the US. Germany takes the Holocaust very seriously. They have first hand knowledge of it and don't want a repeat.

23 posted on 09/22/2009 3:08:32 PM PDT by monday
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To: monday

I would definitely say that Germany has had first hand experience of it since it was the Germans that committed genocide. Of course, no one in Germany knew about it, or at least that is what all my German friends tell me. The truth is that the German people have no more love for the Jews today than they did before 1945. The French are even worse. While we are being honest here, America didn’t go to war to liberate the Jews, and there were those in the FDR White House that were aware of the Holocaust. My criticism with Germany’s show of outrage is that it is only a show. Germans in general could give a rats butt about Israel.

24 posted on 09/22/2009 4:32:06 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Marty62; La Lydia; SWAMPSNIPER
Delegations from Argentina, Australia, Britain, Costa Rica, Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, New Zealand and the United States left the room as Mr Ahmadinejad began to rail against Israel, a European source said.
25 posted on 09/23/2009 7:39:06 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Well I was hoping for a few more...but these are the sane Countries. Glad to see they didn’t disappoint.

26 posted on 09/23/2009 9:13:51 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Nosterrex

They knew their neighbors were disappearing. They were just to afraid to ask Why.

27 posted on 09/23/2009 9:14:59 PM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Nosterrex

You´re denying the fact that Israel and Germany have a deep friendship since 1949, and that Germany is Israel´s second best ally, right behind the US. Military and armament support have been just one point, mutual visits from the head-of-state-level down to students exchanges another.

28 posted on 09/23/2009 10:57:44 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
The question is why? It is out of guilt, or is it because they truly support the Jews? I can understand why the United States supports Israel. The Jews in America donate large amounts of money to politicians, and the Jews have a disproportionate influence in banking, media, and politics. That's not being ant-semitic, but that's just the truth. Also, there is a significant number of Evangelicals that support Israel for religious reasons.
I fail to see how support of Israel is in Germany's best interest? Why, for instance, would Germany be more supportive of Israel than France, Belgium, Holland, or Spain?
If Germany really wanted to support Israel, it would have been more involved in Iraq, and it wouldn't be supporting Israel's enemies. Talk is cheap. It takes no guts to walkout at the UN, or to act offended. Obama and the libs love to apologize.
Since you seem to know about Germany's support of Israel more than I, maybe you can tell me what Germany has actually done for Israel other than talk? I'm willing to change my views.
29 posted on 09/24/2009 8:36:41 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex

I am a German, and fully a philosemit.
It´s not out of guilt, it´s because of our responsibility for the present. Who knows better than Germans that the Jewish heritage needs to be protected against its enemies?
There is no greater support for Israel compared to our friendship with France, the Netherlands, Poland or Britain. We have strong bonds within the EU. The thing is, that we don´t need to repeat that all the time, unlike our relations to Israel. Israel´s future is at risk, so it needs our solidarity and support. Other countries should do the same as we do, but they fail. So, I wouldn´t say our support for Israel is under a general view outstanding, it is outstanding because the rest of the world fails! We don´t do more than what we should do when a democratic and free country is threatened by its terrorist neighbours.

30 posted on 09/24/2009 8:57:48 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Like that's going to happen.

It did.

31 posted on 09/24/2009 8:59:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: militant2

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction,”

Holocaust denial is pretty ugly.

32 posted on 09/24/2009 9:03:44 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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