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Hawaiian newspapers don't prove birthplace
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 22, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 07/22/2009 8:30:14 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The announcements of Barack Obama's birth printed by two Hawaii newspapers in 1961 do not provide solid proof of a birth in the Aloha State because of uncertainties over the policies and procedures that apparently were being used at the time.

The Honolulu Star-Bulletin, for example, according to its website, now reprints birth information it receives from Hawaii's Department of Health.

"We don't have an editor who handles birth and marriage announcements; we print what we receive from the Department of Health Vital Statistics System," a Star-Bulletin newsroom operator explained to WND.

The operator said, "This is how we've always done it."

The newspaper's "proof" of birth, therefore, could be based on a state-issued "Certification of Live Birth" which, as WND has reported is insufficient alone, even for some State Department officials, to document the birthplace.

Many people remain unaware a child does not even have to be born in Hawaii to receive a Certification of Live Birth, the very "evidence" the White House has cited in defending its assertion Obama was born in Hawaii.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; eligibility; ineligible; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; racheldoro; usurper
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1 posted on 07/22/2009 8:30:14 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

I dunno—why would anyone go through the trouble to fake this in 1961? He was an American citizen anyway. Surely, in that year, his Mother couldn’t have imagined he be President of the United States (requiring a “Natural Born” status).


2 posted on 07/22/2009 8:33:09 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: RobinMasters

Micheal Medved considers this announcement as the ultimate proof.


3 posted on 07/22/2009 8:33:16 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: rbg81

If he was born in Canada or Kenya, then he was not automatically an American citizen ‘anyway’. Mommy dearest to Stanley knew the value of the grandchild being regsitered as an American and it would also give Satnley some leverage if they decided to apply it to Barack sr.


4 posted on 07/22/2009 8:34:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Medved is a fool.


5 posted on 07/22/2009 8:35:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: RobinMasters
>uncertainties over the policies and procedures that apparently were being used at the time

So now you're thinking
that forty-eight years ago
his folks hatched this scheme

to elect their son
president and started it
in motion back then?

6 posted on 07/22/2009 8:36:33 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: rbg81

I thought the same thing, but it *could* be (as others pointed out to me) that his family just released the info to their local paper. Kind of like when someone tells their hometown paper that they just had a baby (even if that baby was born in another state). it could read like, “Mr and Mrs John Smith of Small Town USA gave birth to a boy on 14 Dec 1980”


7 posted on 07/22/2009 8:37:06 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: rbg81

If you read the article, it is not about faking it. The point is that the announcement in the paper may have come from the COLB issued by the Department of Health Vital Statistics System. Thus, it is not proof of birth in Hawaii. Comprende?


8 posted on 07/22/2009 8:37:27 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Does the fool Medved try to explain away the erroneous address for the ‘couple and their spawn’? Has Medved addressed why he thinks the twins born the same two days as Barry are not listed in the papers if the announcements were issued by the hospital? ... Medved is a fool, a useful idiot.


9 posted on 07/22/2009 8:37:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rbg81

Don’t know, don’t care, I want to see the long form and the long form only, and until that time, this man does not exist.


10 posted on 07/22/2009 8:37:54 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Medved is wrong on this. I don’t understand the lack of honest intellectual curiosity on this by many, including Mr. Medved. He doesn’t give fair hearing to the BEST arguments of us lowly birthers. He tends to demonize by use of labels and cherry picking easily rebutable arguments, or not considering the more fully developed arguments.

It is easy for the bullies of the mind to win a fight against a strawman once they pull the arms and legs off of him


11 posted on 07/22/2009 8:38:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RobinMasters

Jim Lehrer (PBS, D): "Crack the heads of anyone who asks for your birth certificate. Crack their heads and bones."

12 posted on 07/22/2009 8:38:36 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: theFIRMbss; LucyT
You obamanoids just can't help yourself when your Axelrod boss sends you out to spin and deceive!

Lucy, is this one on the list yet?

13 posted on 07/22/2009 8:38:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

good point about the twins not being in the same paper. Are they the only ones missing? Or are other people born on the same day missing or in the paper? When did the twins finally make it to the paper?


14 posted on 07/22/2009 8:40:06 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

There is no record comparable. It could have been that the twins’ parents were living at the address erroneously accepted for Barry’s spawn drop, and just the names were replaced in the microfiche. That is how I would have done it to counterfeit the imagery.


15 posted on 07/22/2009 8:43:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rbg81
"Surely, in that year, his Mother couldn’t have imagined he be President of the United States (requiring a “Natural Born” status)."

People were scamming Uncle Sam long before 1961. I'm sure there were other freebies and bennies on her mind that Uncle Sam could provide that uncle goat herder couldn't.

That alone was motive for the whole charade.

16 posted on 07/22/2009 8:43:18 PM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

My grandparents put my birth announcement in their hometown paper and I lived and was born hundreds of miles away. This proves nothing other than his grandparents put an announcment in the paper. Why does the left even mention this as proof? It seems pretty desperate imho.


17 posted on 07/22/2009 8:43:27 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: MHGinTN
>You obamanoids just can't help yourself when your Axelrod boss sends you out to spin and deceive!

Hey, when I unleash
my moon-based "laser" your "list"
will not stand a chance!

18 posted on 07/22/2009 8:45:30 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: rbg81
....Surely, in that year, his Mother couldn’t have imagined he be President of the United States (requiring a “Natural Born” status).

No, but she (or more likely the Grandmother -1000% more responsible) might have wanted him to be considered at least SOME kind of US Citizen.

BTW there is NOTHING they could have done, short of lying about the paternity to make Zero a natural-born citizen since the father (Barack Obama Sr.) was not a US Citizen himself and therefore could not bequeath that status to his son. In fact, what the father passed down to the son is BRITISH colonial status, thus forever making the son ineligible to the Prersidency regardless of where he might have been born.

19 posted on 07/22/2009 8:45:50 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: for-q-clinton

Incidentally, increwase your image to 400% and look at the images of the two supposed recorded microfiche images above. Most glaring is the one on thr right, with incomplete erasure just above the Obama entry. But the one on the left has line alignment problems, also.


20 posted on 07/22/2009 8:46:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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