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Some securities are honored by nobody, I guess.
1 posted on 07/12/2009 3:26:38 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Ping!


2 posted on 07/12/2009 3:27:17 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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This makes it harder for a person with a $1 million IOU to sell it to you or me for $900,000. Illegal actgually.

This makes the situation worse.


3 posted on 07/12/2009 3:28:59 AM PDT by GeronL ( Patriotic Insurrectionist at http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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Hmmm....

So no California can print “securities” to pay its bills...

In the old days that was called defaulting on your debts...

But the Federal government doesn’t want anyone to notice that California has defaulted on its debt so they put up smoke and mirrors and try to continue the illusion that California is a-okay...


4 posted on 07/12/2009 3:32:02 AM PDT by DB
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But Mr. Obama can screw millions of General Motors and Chrysler shareholders and bondholders out of billions of dollars? Which way to the looking glass?


5 posted on 07/12/2009 3:32:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. ~H.L. Mencken)
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Maybe I could just print up some nifty IOU’s and go on a shopping spree. Or maybe.... I know, hire a new employee for my design company and pay him with IOU’s.

When money becomes worthless, then what are we going to use?


7 posted on 07/12/2009 3:36:14 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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Calling garbage gold (even by the SEC) does not make it gold. But anything seems preferable to seeing and acting on the truth. CA must cut spending!
8 posted on 07/12/2009 3:41:42 AM PDT by Ironsman
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“California IOU’s can be considered securities?”

Bananas, bananas, 39 cents a pound!

IMHO


10 posted on 07/12/2009 3:45:23 AM PDT by ripley
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The supremacy of finance capital over all other forms of capital means the predominance of the rentier and of the financial oligarchy; it means that a small number of financially “powerful” states stand out among all the rest. The extent to which this process is going on may be judged from the statistics on emissions, i.e., the issue of all kinds of securities. - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
15 posted on 07/12/2009 3:56:52 AM PDT by PGalt
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Thanks for posting TLR. Disgusting.

These con-men are putting us in dire straits. We need to bang the drumsticks/clubs on their collectivist heads...(music to read this thread by)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpMqKSrr7Y


16 posted on 07/12/2009 4:04:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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I guess the next step wtill be Obama mandating that the banks accept the IOUs.


17 posted on 07/12/2009 4:06:26 AM PDT by AdaGray (uw)
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There's a difference?

19 posted on 07/12/2009 4:16:52 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

some might find this interesting:

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1201-SEC-Destroys-California.html

Now pay attention to this. The big banks are INSOLVENT.

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1203-Stupidity-Bites-HARD-Dodd-and-Frank.html

Then there’s this:

http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/07/cit-prepares-to-file-bankruptcy.html

CIT as in Citibank.

Is it going to happen? Who knows. But the notion that is might be out there is plenty scary, don’t you think?

Nothing like having an economic nitwit, who is “set for life” in charge of the situation, gang.

He gets to play with the “house money.”


20 posted on 07/12/2009 4:21:54 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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Maybe they can get Citigroup to buy these “valuable” securities. If not, then Buffett and Soros will have to pick up the slack.


22 posted on 07/12/2009 5:17:58 AM PDT by Brilliant
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United States Constitution Article 1 Section 10: Limits on the States.

The final section of Article One outlines the limits on the powers of the States:

Section 10, Clause 1 (Contracts Clause): No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.


23 posted on 07/12/2009 5:33:25 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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WOW ! Fantastic ! Where can I buy some of these “securities” ?


24 posted on 07/12/2009 5:34:41 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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So the IOUs are really 0% bonds? Interesting. I wonder if they’ve figured out how that is going to effect their already crappy bond rating.


25 posted on 07/12/2009 5:42:00 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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I'll wager these I.O.U. WON'T be treated as municipal bonds. How do I know this? Interest on most munies are tax free. Wait till you fill out your form 1040 sec B, and then get back to me.

5.56mm

26 posted on 07/12/2009 5:49:04 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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I wonder how long it will take the SEC to give them a triple AAA rating?


27 posted on 07/12/2009 5:58:06 AM PDT by DHC-2 (my flags: http://www.jdlinn.com/liberty.html)
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California IOUs can be considered worthless securities


28 posted on 07/12/2009 6:17:42 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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The regulator is recommending that the IOUs, which carry an annual interest rate of 3.75%, be regulated as municipal debt, a form of security, by the Municipal Securities Rulemaking Board. Identifying the IOUs as securities creates a regulated secondary market for them, which make it easier for their holders to sell them at a fair price. Tom Dresslar, a spokesman for California State Treasurer Bill Lockyer, lauded the SEC's announcement, saying in a statement: "The SEC has sent a pretty clear warning to folks who plan to profit by buying and reselling IOUs: If you're not registered as a municipal securities broker-dealer, you run the risk of violating federal law."
Wow, it's almost as if the SEC is helping out some jokers who made campaign contributions to Obama. But what are the odds of that?
30 posted on 07/12/2009 6:41:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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