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1 posted on 04/18/2009 5:32:36 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Is this the same body armor that was talked about on “Dateline” that the military thought was crap?


2 posted on 04/18/2009 5:34:30 PM PDT by Perdogg (University of North Carolina - 2009 NCAA basketball champs)
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To: neverdem

another negative story about the military.

no doubt true, but the nyt never prints positive stories about the u.s. military.


3 posted on 04/18/2009 5:34:59 PM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: neverdem

Obama’s fault.


4 posted on 04/18/2009 5:37:27 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: neverdem

If Bush was still in office, this would be the lead story on the news. With 0 in office, nadda..


5 posted on 04/18/2009 5:37:46 PM PDT by nralife (Sarah doesn't know it's a damn show! She thinks it's a damn fight!)
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To: neverdem

I’d say if there are no obvious flaws, bring it out and let whoever desires be a volunteer to test it. If it comes short the soldiers will find out soon enough.


7 posted on 04/18/2009 5:43:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: neverdem

The story doesn’t really say whether or not the vest will stop a rifle round.


8 posted on 04/18/2009 5:44:13 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: neverdem

Its Obama’s fault and Obama’s military.


10 posted on 04/18/2009 5:56:56 PM PDT by omega4179 (boycott government run entities)
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To: neverdem

Barry’s Fault.


14 posted on 04/18/2009 6:42:54 PM PDT by sionnsar ((Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

If it sucks, Demwits be in favor of it. Thanks neverdem.


16 posted on 04/18/2009 7:31:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: neverdem

The military has to make up its mind on the protection level. In Iraq, early on, the plates were mostly in front, but with a lot of IED casualties the decision was to add side and back plates. This made the vests heavier. As Iraq is flatter and has more roads, the grunts could ride more than walk, so the weight increase was OK.

In Afghanistan, the roads are bad and everything is uphill. The heavier vests add weight. Should we go back to the front plate only? Either way, the soldiers are overburdened with gear and maybe we should try to supply food and water replenishments by air and let the soldiers just carry armor, arms and some food and water. The 120 pounds is way too much when you are going uphill all day and are already at 8000 feet above sea level.


19 posted on 04/18/2009 8:32:10 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: neverdem
This is the shit IBA gear we need. Try running, climbing over the walls and even just standing there all day during a cordon with the current crap.

it gets heavy! Many of us would ligthen the weight in exchange for less "safety". I want to be able to move quicker and longer without having to stop to catch my breath... you lose your agility!

I want those idiots that called them back to come out here and wear it daily for a month. now with the onset of summer, yes, you wear it and suffer with all the aforementioned you fricking FOB POGs! Then you tell me what you think.. You ever wear this stuff on a day to day basis? don't even tell me yes you have when as an officer, you "sit down" in your fricking meetings and are out of the sun and have the weight load off.

30 posted on 04/20/2009 12:17:56 AM PDT by ma bell (Screw the Illegal Aliens... ps - they are illegal aliens..not "undocumented workers")
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