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Paly students and staff react to approval of Prop. 8
The Paly Voice ^ | Wed Nov. 5 | Anna Bastidas and Patricia Ho

Posted on 11/05/2008 10:40:28 PM PST by nickcarraway

Many Paly students wore red clothing or ribbons to school today in protest of the passing of California's Proposition 8 on Nov. 4, 2008.

Prop. 8 amends the California constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry and states that only a marriage between a man and a woman is valid in California, according to the Official Voter Information Guide for the California General Election.

Many protests against the passage of Prop. 8 have been organized through events on Facebook. One of these events is titled "I Will Wear Red 11/5/08 if Prop. 8 Passes."

"I decided to wear red ribbons today because I think discriminating against sexual orientation is just plain wrong," senior Lynn Chang said. "I think red was chosen because it's a symbol of love and shows the importance of being able to love whoever you want. Even though we lost today, it is a start of a new battle, which I think we can win because it is unconstitutional to eliminate the rights of a certain group of people."

Other students shared this sentiment, saying that they disagreed strongly with the results.

"It was kind of eerie that in California, more than half the people are for discriminating against gay people," junior Joshua Gould said. "I think it's terrible. If you're gay, you'll obviously vote no on Prop. 8, but if you're straight, why do you care? If you vote yes, you'll just mess things up for other people."

However, senior Daniel Yeh has mixed feelings about the results, as he is concerned with the consequences of the passage.

"I believe that the government has the power to define marriage, but I'm not sure about banning it," Yeh said. "The government has the power to ban polygamy and incest and I don't know where the line would be drawn if the government doesn't have the power to ban gay marriage. Marriage is a sort of a government thing because it is a legal union, so the government should be able to define it."

Living skills teacher Leticia Burton was surprised by the results, but recognizes the difficulties involved with legalizing gay marriage.

"This is the first time that there's a constitutional amendment to restrict rights," Burton said. "Yes, it's [Prop. 8 is] about gay people getting married, but for me it's about coming from a history or a legacy where the ballot box has been used to restrict people who look like me from voting. It feels like a step backwards in some ways, especially in light of [Barack] Obama being elected president, and Prop. 8 passes; it's very incongruous."

However, Burton feels that continuing efforts for equality are making progress in California.

"A friend of mine said that when you think about the struggle for civil rights in this country, it's taken 400 years to get to the point where we have a person who's black as president," Burton said. "The struggle for gay rights is still new, and there's still lots of work to be done. The thing that she said that really struck me was that, nothing worth having comes easy, that you have to fight for it. So now I just think that people who really believe in freedom for all people just need to fight for it."

GSA President senior Alex Coblin was shocked by the lack of acceptance of gay rights in California when he heard the result.

"It [the passing of Prop. 8] sucked, to put it simply," Coblin said. "Just the fact that it passed in California, which is supposed to be one of the most progressive states, is disappointing."

Coblin feels the passage of Prop. 8 has dampened his reaction to the presidential election.

"Seeing everyone else happy about the election results, I don't feel the same way because I've literally been stripped of a right," Coblin said.

Gould agrees: "Too many people in this nation have been discriminated against at one point or another."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; prop8

1 posted on 11/05/2008 10:40:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Wow! Written by a Bastidas and a Ho!


2 posted on 11/05/2008 10:41:46 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: nickcarraway
"The government has the power to ban polygamy and incest and I don't know where the line would be drawn if the government doesn't have the power to ban gay marriage. Marriage is a sort of a government thing because it is a legal union, so the government should be able to define it."

Wow, this kid is smarter than 99% of the folks in the media.
3 posted on 11/05/2008 10:46:20 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: nickcarraway

Alex Colbin has all the rights of every resident of California. Including marriage.

Any eligible man can marry any eligible woman. Any eligible woman can marry any eligible man. Nobody is discriminated against in the existing marriage laws. Marriage has a definition which includes all who want to participate in it.

Alex can also enter into a domestic partnership in California, which has virtually all the legal rights and responsibilities of marriage. Tens of millions of dollars were spent by the gay activists over the legal definition of one word : marriage.

Somebody said why does anybody care about gay marriage, why are we talking about it, implying that we should just accept it. Obviously the gay activists care very much about how we define marriage in our society, otherwise they would be happy with the legal partnership rights they have gained in some states, and leave it at that.


4 posted on 11/05/2008 10:46:23 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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NO, please don’t wear red! Anything but the red clothes!!! Please, I take my vote back, just don’t do it. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

;)


5 posted on 11/05/2008 10:49:28 PM PST by CaliGangsta
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To: nickcarraway; All
For those of you who don't know Paly is a High School in Palo Alto, CA. It is on El Camino Real just across the street from Stanford University. It's a affluent community and home to some of the biggest hypocrites you would ever want to meet (or maybe you wouldn't want to meet).
Although rated as a top academic high school, it's also a training ground for indoctrination of young kids. It's kinda like a Madrassa but with lattes and BMW's in the parking lot. I really hate Paly and mostly because of the types of people who send their kids there. I don't hate the kids because they are just kids. I hate the parents and the teachers at this place. It's the indoctrination of the kids that the left does that I despise so much.
6 posted on 11/05/2008 10:52:51 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: nickcarraway

Stupid Liberal people will always do what they can to corrupt the youth. I talk to my brothers kids about this kind of stuff - it drives my brothers girlfriend (A big closet Lib) mad.

Be a good parent, fight against indoctrination you don’t belive in. You gotta talk to your kids. I don’t have any of my own (That’s probably a good thing LOL).


7 posted on 11/05/2008 10:59:52 PM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: truthguy

might as well get started on hating the kids too because you can see how they’re going to turn out...


8 posted on 11/05/2008 11:02:03 PM PST by steel_resolve (We are living in the post-rational world where being a moron is an asset)
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To: nickcarraway

The kid talking about government ‘defining’ marriage is a moron.

The PEOPLE decide what marriage is. The government enforces the decision of the PEOPLE.

Sheeple idiot.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 11:04:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: nickcarraway
They still have the option of moving to Boston
10 posted on 11/05/2008 11:13:11 PM PST by Nateman (Do not go quietly into the night. Rage! Rage! at the loss of the light!)
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To: truthguy

Agreed — Palo Alto public schools are an indoctrination boot camp. Thank God I made it out of there with some inkling of individual thought left...


11 posted on 11/05/2008 11:49:40 PM PST by sixthousandrpm
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To: nickcarraway
Alex Coblin has the same rights that I do and so this is not an issue of discrimination.

I fail to see where the problem is.

12 posted on 11/06/2008 1:00:16 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE and Help Beat Obama)
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To: nickcarraway
"I think red was chosen because it's a symbol of love and shows the importance of being able to love whoever you want.

Hey Lynne you can love whomever you want, just don't ask the state to give you a special right and legal standing.

13 posted on 11/06/2008 2:00:41 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: nickcarraway
"This is the first time that there's a constitutional amendment to restrict rights,"

Hey Teach, have you ever heard of Prohibition? The Volstead Act? Perhaps you know it as the 18th Amendment.

14 posted on 11/06/2008 2:03:22 AM PST by muir_redwoods (B. O. Stinks!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

For all you foolish straights who support this homosexual agendsa I direct you to something Paul Newman said in the movie Slap Shot.
How are you going to feel when you come home and some old queen is trying to seduce your young son?


15 posted on 11/06/2008 3:15:33 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: CaliGangsta

Anyone know why the Obamas wore red and black? Is there a thread on this. Michelle looked like she was pregnant with the devil’s spawn. And the poor little one all in black. Poor thing. Not good colors for people of color to wear IMHO. Not attractive. oh well.


16 posted on 11/06/2008 4:50:45 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Dilbert San Diego

the california court, drank the kookaid, and said sexual BEHAVIOR was immutable as skin color or genetic oragin.

Immutability equals rights in the eyes of the california courts.

not being able to have your BEHAVIOR recognized means your are discriminated against.


17 posted on 11/06/2008 6:21:29 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nickcarraway

damn, I wore red yesterday. Good thing I wasn’t at home in California.


18 posted on 11/06/2008 2:47:06 PM PST by farfromhome (Let us judge Obama on the content of his character rather than on the color of his skin.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Hey Teach, have you ever heard of Prohibition? The Volstead Act? Perhaps you know it as the 18th Amendment.
Since when can you expect teachers to know history?
19 posted on 11/09/2008 10:08:52 PM PST by dbz77
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