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Russian archaeologists find long-lost Jewish capital
AFP ^ | Sept. 3, 2008

Posted on 09/03/2008 9:26:26 AM PDT by Alouette

MOSCOW (AFP) - Russian archaeologists said Wednesday they had found the long-lost capital of the Khazar kingdom in southern Russia, a breakthrough for research on the ancient Jewish state.

"This is a hugely important discovery," expedition organiser Dmitry Vasilyev told AFP by telephone from Astrakhan State University after returning from excavations near the village of Samosdelka, just north of the Caspian Sea.

"We can now shed light on one of the most intriguing mysteries of that period -- how the Khazars actually lived. We know very little about the Khazars -- about their traditions, their funerary rites, their culture," he said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; khazar; khazaria; khazars; samosdelka
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1 posted on 09/03/2008 9:26:27 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
FReepMail to be added or removed from this pro-Israel/Judaic/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

2 posted on 09/03/2008 9:27:41 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG!


3 posted on 09/03/2008 9:28:22 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette
The Russians then proceeded to sack the village and send all its inhabitants to the Gulag.
4 posted on 09/03/2008 9:28:24 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Alouette
I seem to recall that the Khazars (who CONVERTED to Judaism) were either killed or assimilated with the larger ashkenazic community. I have heard that most Jews from the Crimea are descended from the Khazars, but so much has been said about Khazar geneology that is BS, that its hard to separate truth from fiction.
5 posted on 09/03/2008 9:29:43 AM PDT by Clemenza (Barack Obama: Black and White and RED all Over)
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To: Alouette

How long til the Mohammedans try to lay claim?


6 posted on 09/03/2008 9:29:45 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: Alouette

We can now shed light on one of the most intriguing mysteries of that period......

And which Russian leader killed them all. Before it was the Czars or Lenin or Stalin, it was somebody ruling Russia. Bet on it.


7 posted on 09/03/2008 9:30:31 AM PDT by bpjam (Obama is Black. Stop Asking Questions, Dammit!!!)
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To: Alouette

Does this mean the Russians are sending in the tanks, jets and warships?


8 posted on 09/03/2008 9:34:52 AM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: Alouette

Here’s an interesting site about the Khazars. At the end is a link to pics from the museum.

http://www.dejanlucic.net/The%20Khazars_stiven.html


9 posted on 09/03/2008 9:36:20 AM PDT by itsthejourney
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To: Catholic Canadian

Man ain’t that the case, it will “the Holy City of . . . .” mentioned in some hadith.


10 posted on 09/03/2008 9:38:42 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: wintertime

ping


11 posted on 09/03/2008 9:40:27 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Alouette

.


12 posted on 09/03/2008 9:53:38 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Alouette

this looks interesting...self-ping for later


13 posted on 09/03/2008 10:12:03 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Palin/Cleese '12)
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To: Clemenza

I read that the Khazars performed the same service as Charles Martel. While Martell stopped the Muslims at Tours, the Khazars stopped them from entering Europe from the East. In their day, they weren’t to be trifled with. One of the Khazars was also an emperor of the eastern? empire.


14 posted on 09/03/2008 10:23:27 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Alouette

The Thirteenth Tribe (Paperback)
by Arthur Koestler

http://www.amazon.com/Thirteenth-Tribe-Arthur-Koestler/dp/0394402847/

Product Description:

This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark Ages converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the forces of Ghengis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry.


15 posted on 09/03/2008 10:23:55 AM PDT by Ozone34
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Well what I understand History Channel covered this in Russia Land of The Tsars special Russia was made of country of Viking princes they marry into villagers called Rus through them the Rus assilmated into Viking that what you get Russian people now
There was govt in that part of Russia back in da day very loosely govt lots of political coups and stuff


16 posted on 09/03/2008 11:00:49 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: bpjam

Well what I understand History Channel covered this in Russia Land of The Tsars special Russia was made of country of Viking princes they marry into villagers called Rus through them the Rus assilmated into Viking that what you get Russian people now
There was govt in that part of Russia back in da day very loosely govt lots of political coups and stuff


17 posted on 09/03/2008 11:00:54 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Ozone34
evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry.

Koestler's book is mostly racist BS, and forms the basis for the bogus claims of many anti-Semites that European Jews aren't "real" Jews, but descendants of Khazars.

The DNA evidence indicates the opposite, that European Jews are closer to Middle-easterners and especially other Sephardic and Mizrach Jews than to Europeans.

18 posted on 09/03/2008 11:01:26 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: meatloaf

Nice try. Genghis Khan stopped the Muhammadans from the east.


19 posted on 09/03/2008 11:50:10 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Alouette
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-history.html

Not according to this site. (doesn't seem anti semantic to me either)

Origins. The Khazars were a Turkic1 people who originated in Central Asia. The early Turkic tribes were quite diverse, although it is believed that reddish hair was predominant among them prior to the Mongol conquests.

In the beginning, the Khazars believed in Tengri shamanism, spoke a Turkic language, and were nomadic. Later, the Khazars adopted Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, learned Hebrew and Slavic, and became settled in cities and towns thruout the north Caucasus and Ukraine.

The Khazars had a great history of ethnic independence extending approximately 800 years from the 5th to the 13th century.

The earliest history of the Khazars in southern Russia, prior to the middle of the 6th century, is hidden in obscurity. From about 550 to 630, the Khazars were part of the Western Turkish Empire, ruled by the Celestial Blue Turks (Kök Turks).

When the Western Turkish Empire was broken up as a result of civil wars in the middle of the 7th century, the Khazars successfully asserted their independence. Yet, the Kök kaganate under which they had lived provided the Khazars with their system of government. For example, the Khazars followed the same guidelines as the Kök Turks regarding the succession of kings.

Political power. At its maximum extent, the independent country of Khazaria included the geographic regions of southern Russia, northern Caucasus, eastern Ukraine, Crimea, western Kazakhstan, and northwestern Uzbekistan.

Other Turkic groups such as the Sabirs and Bulgars came under Khazar jurisdiction during the 7th century. The Khazars forced some of the Bulgars (led by Asparukh) to move to modern-day Bulgaria, while other Bulgars fled to the upper Volga River region where the independent state of Volga Bulgharia was founded.

The Khazars had their greatest power over other tribes in the 9th century, controlling eastern Slavs, Magyars, Pechenegs, Burtas, North Caucasian Huns, and other tribes and demanding tribute from them. Because of their jurisdiction over the area, the Caspian Sea was named the "Khazar Sea", and even today the Azeri, Turkish, Persian, and Arabic languages designate the Caspian by this term (in Turkish, "Hazar Denizi"; in Arabic, "Bahr-ul-Khazar"; in Persian, "Daryaye Khazar").

In addition to their role in indirectly bringing about the creation of the modern Balkan nation of Bulgaria, the Khazars played an even more significant role in European affairs.

By acting as a buffer state between the Islamic world and the Christian world, Khazaria prevented Islam from significantly spreading north of the Caucasus Mountains. This was accomplished thru a series of wars known as the Arab-Khazar Wars, which took place in the late 7th and early 8th centuries. The wars established the Caucasus and the city of Derbent as the boundary between the Khazars and the Arabs.

(contradicts the historical chapter of Ghengis Khan's conquest of the Mohammadans)

(much more)

20 posted on 09/03/2008 12:10:42 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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