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Obama's skewer-the-messenger strategy ( Saul Alinsky taught tactics for Community Activists )
worldnetdaily. ^ | August 19, 2008 1:00 am Eastern | Andrea Shea King

Posted on 08/20/2008 9:27:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Socialist and community activist Saul Alinksy taught organizers to ridicule opponents when the arguments of their opponents could not be refuted by logic, evidence or argument. He advocated denying the truth or just plain lying. In Alinksy's world, the end always justified the means.

Alinsky's acolytes on the left have learned the lesson well. Because they dare not address the questions raised, they attack the one asking the questions.

Supporters of Barack Obama are in paroxysms over Jerome R. Corsi's best-seller "The Obama Nation," attacking the 304-page book and its author on minor details contained within its pages, while deliberately ignoring and obfuscating the larger points Corsi makes about Obama's questionable alliances, practices and qualifications for president.

During an interview I did with Dr. Corsi on my radio program Aug. 9, he said there are questions Obama must answer or he won't get elected:

I want the reader to understand that it is not accidental that I'm able to pin Barack Obama down as an extreme socialist or leftist, because Obama gives me enough clues in his own writings that I know exactly what it means.

I tried in "Obama Nation" to write about it in a clear and simple, easy-to-read way so the reader will be illuminated as to what Obama's talking about, what his context is.

It's why Obama won't be able to answer this book because Obama's going to read this book – if he ever does … and say, "OK, Corsi knows what he's talking about." He's going to have to admit that. If he doesn't want to admit that, then he's not being intellectually honest.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; alinksy; barackobama; corsi; democrats; electionpresident; elections; nobama08; obama; obamanation; saulalinsky

1 posted on 08/20/2008 9:27:04 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
Related article by the author:

Tuesday, August 19, 2008
WHO IS SAUL ALINKSY?

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My piece focuses on the Left's tactics, and how they're using them to hammer Dr. Jerry Corsi for the legitimate questions and issues he raises in his best selling book The Obama Nation. I wrote it for the Freedom Journalism Center, following a 90-minute interview with Dr. Corsi on my radio program a week or so ago. While reading The Obama Nation I'd noticed the virulent attacks by the Left on Corsi and his book.

These are the very tactics advocated and taught by the socialist Saul Alinsky, whose students include Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. When you can't defend, attack. Smear. Discredit.

2 posted on 08/20/2008 9:30:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
On the opening page of Rules for Radicals, Alinksy quotes himself saying, "Let us not forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where the mythology leaves off and history begins - or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."
3 posted on 08/20/2008 9:34:35 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BTTT


4 posted on 08/20/2008 9:38:31 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“He [Alinsky] advocated denying the truth or just plain lying. In Alinksy’s world, the end always justified the means. Alinsky’s acolytes on the left have learned the lesson well.”

I am listening and watching Senator Obama very closely....and noticing the astounding number of things he says that confirm the above.


5 posted on 08/20/2008 9:40:57 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: TexasCajun

re: Lucifer

Well at least Alinsky is clear on his own intellectual and moral lineage!! Don’t know if many leftists could be so honest and self-aware as that!


6 posted on 08/20/2008 9:41:27 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama-cons: Trying to fool America, one media dupe at a time!)
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To: SumProVita
“He [Alinsky] advocated denying the truth or just plain lying. In Alinksy’s world, the end always justified the means. Alinsky’s acolytes on the left have learned the lesson well.”

Of course, Alinsky went to his well-deserved reward in 1972, never heard of the internet.

Another behind-the-curve commie.

7 posted on 08/20/2008 9:58:21 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I keep forgetting to add stuff about Alinsky to my FR Home. Also some of the things Mark Levin quoted yesterday from Barack Obama's father. Oh, and his mother Ann Durham. Dang! So many commies, so little time!

From AsiaTimes.com, Feb 26, 2008...

"Naivete" is a euphemism for Ann Dunham's motivation. Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation. "

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

8 posted on 08/20/2008 10:02:41 AM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the ObamaRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: TexasCajun

“did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

That’s the perfect “only a flesh wound” spin! He and his followers were cast out of perfection (heaven), but he “won his own kingdom”! Or maybe Michael Keaton in “Beelzebub”, when his response to having his head shrunken by the witch doctor was “This is a good look for me!”.

How can you argue with this type of logic?

Colonel, USAFR


9 posted on 08/20/2008 10:05:03 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: TexasCajun; jagusafr; jveritas; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; ...
Just found this on a keyword list,,,,FR Thread:

Saul Alinsky (Idol to Barack and Hillary) Pays Homage to the "Original Radical"
Amazon.com ^ | 1971 | Saul Alinsky

AND ....I posted this also...todays news on Obama and McCain Polling

Voters Souring on Obama As Never Before ( Comments on the latest Polls and others Observations )

10 posted on 08/20/2008 10:52:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama needs a descriptive nickname that will become fixed in the American public’s mind, such as Senator Hyperbole.


11 posted on 08/20/2008 11:07:34 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: TexasRepublic

Good Idea....Senator Boy Wonder....Hmmm!


12 posted on 08/20/2008 11:36:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jagusafr
“did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

Some "kingdom," this. It's more like a foreclosed house which he is trashing in spite before the owner takes it back.

And the Owner has plans on the board to bulldoze it and rebuild in a different style anyway. Sheesh.

13 posted on 08/20/2008 1:19:47 PM PDT by thulldud (All your rumor are mong to us.)
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To: jagusafr
"Michael Keaton in “Beelzebub”, when his response to having his head shrunken by the witch doctor was “This is a good look for me!”."

"Beetlejuice," I believe you mean. The scene was one of many memorable ones. Keaton is versatile, to say the least.

14 posted on 08/20/2008 2:15:39 PM PDT by redhead (B-I-NGO...B-I-NGO...)
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To: TexasRepublic
"Obama needs a descriptive nickname that will become fixed in the American public’s mind, such as Senator Hyperbole."

"Good Idea....Senator Boy Wonder....Hmmm!"

LOL! Rush was calling him "The Man-Child" today.

15 posted on 08/20/2008 2:18:10 PM PDT by redhead (B-I-NGO...B-I-NGO...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oops. Sorry, Eatb...forgot to ping you on the above post. My apologies.


16 posted on 08/20/2008 2:19:03 PM PDT by redhead (B-I-NGO...B-I-NGO...)
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To: redhead

D’oh! Sorry! You’re right. My issues with the subject matter notwithstanding, that was just one funny show.

Colonel, USAFR


17 posted on 08/20/2008 2:34:44 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The use of Saul Alinksy tactics/techniques by the Obama camp is on first-hand display in the rabid attempts to demonize Jerome Corsi and his new book, The Obama Nation.

This includes using massive spam e-mailings, employing even manufactured “testimonies” by asserted “Republicans” that they “decry” this “book of lies.”

The Obama Nation offers, for one thing, a huge insight into Obama’s origins and mind-set. These are rather important things to know about a POTUS candidate.

18 posted on 08/20/2008 3:08:33 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Perhaps more voters then I would have imagined can think a bit. And realize the empty suit would be a really bad choice in these troubled times.


19 posted on 08/20/2008 4:18:45 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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