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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: mainepatsfan
It’s like a cocky young hitter coming up against a craft old junk ball pitcher.

Yep,Richie Allen meet Hoyt Wilhelm. This was a knock-out. A strike out that may have won the game!!

1,301 posted on 08/16/2008 6:56:22 PM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: All

Well there it is. Don’t like Mcamnesty or Global warming BS, but bottom line one of these guys is going to be president and... barring a pro-choice VP...I’m in.


1,302 posted on 08/16/2008 6:56:31 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: All

Wow! Good job McCain! I started to warm up to him like I did with Reagan. McCain talked like a conservative.


1,303 posted on 08/16/2008 6:56:40 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Any day above ground is a good day.)
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To: flyfree

Mccain took no prisoners he was powerful.


1,304 posted on 08/16/2008 6:56:42 PM PDT by Williams
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t think that was too big an issue, it is very common among more mature people in civil discussion.


1,305 posted on 08/16/2008 6:56:56 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tennessee Nana

What a GRRREAT! Performance J.M. did tonight! Thoroughly caught me off guard!


1,306 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:12 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: HonestConservative

One “my friend”...One drink....Problem solved...((;O)


1,307 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:13 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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To: rhema

Can someone give me a rundown of the talking heads opinions...I have a wife watching the olympic marathon...(


1,308 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:17 PM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: JDoutrider

Same questions he asked Snowbama, from what I saw.


1,309 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:21 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Today’s request in my mail for money for John McCain was a note from Cindy asking me to wish John a Happy Birthday (with money.) I will definitely return the card with a check. He earned it tonight.


1,310 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:21 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: MHGinTN

It seems you have invented the frinking game for the next “debate”.


1,311 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:27 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: All

prepare for the Dinosaur Media Obamagasms.


1,312 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: txflake

McCain was not my first choice by far. However, there is no rationale that I can think of that we can not choose McCain over Obama.

Picking Lieberman would be dumb for McCain and I share your concern. Trial balloons are thrown around. I wouldn’t worry it. However, even if Lieberman was the VP choice - would the decision to pick McCain over Obama be any less difficult. We would be a lot less happy but I still would arrive at a 0% probability of not picking McCain.


1,313 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:46 PM PDT by TakeChargeBob
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To: STARWISE; Ladycalif

Mention of the protestors

Ladycalif is there protesting

hey Lady you got a shoutout

LOL


1,314 posted on 08/16/2008 6:57:53 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: HonestConservative
My only friend here tonight...

Thank-you for the reality check.

G'night and stay strong!

1,315 posted on 08/16/2008 6:58:02 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Bodhi1

Can’t decide which cry baby channel, CNN or MSNBC? for follow up


1,316 posted on 08/16/2008 6:58:10 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: TornadoAlley3
That pic is a PERFECT commentary on the night! Cheers!!!
1,317 posted on 08/16/2008 6:58:11 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: DeusExMachina05

Campaign Carl - excuses for Obama - vacation, long flight, blah blah.


1,318 posted on 08/16/2008 6:58:22 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: longtermmemmory

Send Obama clean underwear, he’s needing it right now.


1,319 posted on 08/16/2008 6:58:27 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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To: BCrago66

McCain did great but Fox has Ann Lewis on her panel. What the hell is the matter with them... I HATE that woman!!!!


1,320 posted on 08/16/2008 6:58:41 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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