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me ^ | 08/11/2008 | me

Posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:00 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99

I recently recieved a welcome letter from my daughter's teacher. My daughter is going into kindergarden at a catholic school. The letter included the phrase "learning how to help save the planet" which of course means global warming. My wife and I believe that global warming is a hoax built on junk science.

I don't want my daughter brainwashed by this liberal bullcrap. what should I do?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: catholicschools; globalwarming; help; liars
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To: Wiseghy; Big Guy and Rusty 99
Don't assume learning “how to save the planet” means global warming. The enviro lobby has recently succeeded in making these synonymous, but in the past they were not. Learn not to litter, to responsibly recycle (like the old newspaper drives), and to clean up the community (volunteering to clean off old river banks, etc.) are certainly a small part of a good curriculuum.

That was my first thought. "Saving the planet" could also mean spreading the Gospel.

My daughter went to Catholic School from kindergarten through twelfth grade and currently attends a very conservative Catholic College. Like society as a whole, the faculty at the Catholic Schools that my daughter attended were made up of conservatives, liberals, populists, centrists, libertarians, and socialists, and she was never brainwashed into socialist/liberal ideology. In my opinion, the most important aspect of any education is learning how to think critically and objectively. Exposure to divergent points of view and differences of opinion are an important part of this process. Send her to the Catholic School, and with good parenting, you really have nothing to fear.

121 posted on 08/11/2008 12:16:20 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: maine-iac7
No need, nor room for this in the curriculum -

My suggestion to him was to not assume what 'this' was. For all we know, based on what was stated, the person who wrote this meant 'save the world' by spreading God's love. After all, this is a Christian school. The advice was to first find what 'this' means before making the decision.

122 posted on 08/11/2008 12:16:28 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: maine-iac7
Send your little ones into these enemy camps at your = and their = peril.

Private Catholic schools are now enemy camps? Jeeze

123 posted on 08/11/2008 12:17:43 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: I see my hands

05 signup calls an old-timer a troll? That’s rich.


124 posted on 08/11/2008 12:19:50 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Send your daughter to school in a "Nuke the Gay Whales for Jesus" tee shirt.
125 posted on 08/11/2008 12:21:54 PM PDT by OSHA (framing it as though you've magically neutralized any potential negative eventuality)
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To: WayneS

Thanks Wayne. Take care.


126 posted on 08/11/2008 12:22:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: Petronski
The Catholic Church is Biblically faithful.

No, it isn't.

(To those keeping score at home: this is exactly how deep Petronski's pro-Rome arguments get.)

127 posted on 08/11/2008 12:23:07 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

First take a deep breath. Your child will never learn everything in school just the way you would teach it. The only way to guarantee that is home schooling, and I agree that is not for everyone.

BE thankful she is going to a school where Jesus Christ will be the center of what she is taught (if that is not true, find a different school immed)

Then regularly ask her what she is learning, if you disagree teach her your point of view and why you think differently than the teacher. She will have to be exposed to different points of view and learn to make her own decisions. But remember this is kindergarten. I truly doubt global warming or anything else they teach will have any more impact that learning to color between the lines.

Hope this helps. Dont loose the forrest for the trees.


129 posted on 08/11/2008 12:23:10 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: stuartcr
"Why not just let her be a little kid and go along with the other kids? By the time she’s old enough to understand what you are talking about, there will probably be a whole new take on the subject."

You make a good point. No use in overthinking the issue at this early stage of the game.

130 posted on 08/11/2008 12:23:23 PM PDT by Mila
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

It’s more common than you think. I checked out my local Catholic school, good reputation, walking distance, etc. I asked to see the curriculuum and after some demurring (”You’re the first parent who’s ever asked”) I discovered they taught wishy-washy religion, new math, whole language, “environmentalism”, and drug awareness from the second grade.

I inquired how often curriculuum came up for review and what input parents got, thinking I could put up with it in the early grades. The response was: “We like our curriculuum very much, and only teachers and administration have any involvement in these decisions anyway.”

Which, of course, was my cue to turn tail and find a real Catholic school a fifteen minute drive away. It teaches whole Catholicism, real math, phonics, and critical thinking. They even worked out cheaper in the end, as their steep sibling discounts are a considered reflection of Catholic teachings on openness to life.

Our school gets their curriculuum from Kolbe Academy in California, which also runs a homeschooling program.

http://www.kolbe.org/home.php?cat=0


131 posted on 08/11/2008 12:23:39 PM PDT by Eepsy (12-30-2008 +1)
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To: TChris
2) Take an active role in reviewing each day's material with your child, if possible.

Are you laboring under the misconception that this kind of material will come home with her?

It won't. and for the most part, she'll be into another mind-set, like, it's after school, it's play time.

These things are instilled in their young minds subliminally, for the most part.

132 posted on 08/11/2008 12:24:26 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: Herakles

I and another father had a fun way of handling it - right in their face - you don’t teach this to my child EVER or it’s law suit city!
_________

And when you walked away, they laughed at you behind your backs. Deservedly so, from my perspective. Threatening to sue a private/parochial school over what you are paying them handsomely to teach. That’s rich.


133 posted on 08/11/2008 12:25:51 PM PDT by dmz
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To: mnehrling

Fair enough. But the issue is in no way the relative strength of their or my faith, but our respective (and mutually-exclusive) faiths’ basis. In no way am I the issue; the Bible will say what it has always said long after I die, if the Lord doesn’t come first.

The issue of how to answer the question, “How can a man be right with God?” is not a squabble. It is THE question.

The Bible gives one answer, Rome gives its contrary.

That matters — and that’s just one issue.


134 posted on 08/11/2008 12:26:28 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Malacoda; BibChr
Malacoda: I disagree. I don't think that BibChr is hateful. I think he is a person who genuinely wants to save people from eternal damnation. Unfortunately, he is convinced that the Church founded by Our Lord is a sure pathway to Hell. This belief is common among Protestants and Evangelicals.

He's wrong, of course — on that topic, as well as a great many others — but being wrong isn't the same as doing wrong. While I enjoy poking fun at BibChr's stern pronouncements "ex cathedra" here on FR, I just don't see any hatred behind his anti-Catholicism. We should vehemently oppose his mistaken doctrines, of course, but always with good humor and charity.

135 posted on 08/11/2008 12:27:28 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
I would definately do as other FReepers have mentioned by asking the teacher for a copy of the curriculum. You will most probably have questions and to that end....ask them. See if the teacher is open-minded.

If she is obviously part of the 'cult'....then ask....'Well...if you are proclaiming that the science is clear behind Global Warming...is it safe to say you also be teaching Evolutionism and Darwinism this year based on that same kind of science?"

I would want to know! LOL!

136 posted on 08/11/2008 12:27:42 PM PDT by BossLady (People will do anything, no matter how absurd, to avoid facing their own soul. ~Carl Jung)
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To: BibChr
The Catholic Church is Biblically faithful.

No, it isn't.

How is the Catholic Church not Biblically faithful?

137 posted on 08/11/2008 12:27:45 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

I would speak with the teacher and ask her exactly what her curriculum includes. If the teacher wants to teach about conservation and appreciating the earth there should not be a problem. G-d didn’t give us the Earth just so we could trash it, right? It makes sense that we should treat it with respect, as we are stewards of the earth and the life in it. However, if her curriculum does include lessons on global warming. If it does, demand it be changed or switch schools.


138 posted on 08/11/2008 12:28:13 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: Labyrinthos

I would also keep in mind that teachers are constantly put upon by parents who take things the wrong way, often with incomplete information. Most educators, particularly low paid, but highly motivated Catholic educators, try to do a good job and work very hard. Every smart, responsible teacher has learned to be politically correct and at least somewhat balanced in presenting a point of view. There are a few idiots, but only a few in my experience.

Too often, I’ve seen angry parents treat teachers in a very shabby way. They can be condecending too. Usually, their anger is misdirected and misguided.


139 posted on 08/11/2008 12:28:43 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Ask for equal time. If you're not given that opportunity in the classroom, do it at home.

The public schools are far worse and not just on this issue as I'm sure you are aware.

140 posted on 08/11/2008 12:28:46 PM PDT by jennyjenny (Obama is for inflation)
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