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Cigarette Tax Burnout
THE WALL STREET ^ | August 11, 2008 | EDITORS

Posted on 08/10/2008 8:15:52 PM PDT by ricks_place

Politicians in Annapolis are scratching their heads wondering what happened to all those chain smokers who were supposed to help balance Maryland's budget. Last year the legislature doubled the cigarette tax to $2 a pack to pay for expanded health-care coverage. Eight months later, cigarette sales have plunged 25% and the state is in fiscal distress again.

A few pols are pretending to be happy that 30 million fewer cigarette packs have been bought in the state so far this year. As House Majority Leader Kumar Barve put it, fewer people smoking is "a good thing." Yes, except that Maryland may be losing retail sales more than smokers. Residents of Maryland's Washington suburbs can shop in nearby Virginia, where the tax is only 30 cents a pack, and save at least $15 per carton.

The Maryland pols are so afraid this is true that they've made it a crime for residents to carry two packs of cigarettes that weren't purchased in the state. In other words, the state says it's legal to smoke, so long as you use cigarettes that the government can tax and thus become a financial partner in your bad habit. But if you dare to buy smokes across state lines, you can be fined.

Maryland is only the latest state to prove the folly of trying to finance government with a tax on a shrinking pool of smokers. In New York City and State, tobacco taxes have been raised so many times that the retail cost can exceed $9 a pack -- about double the national average. Few budget-savvy smokers in the Big Apple pay that tax...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: govwatch; pufflist; taxes
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States learn a lesson in Economics-101. Law of Supply and Demand is enforced.
1 posted on 08/10/2008 8:15:52 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place
fewer people smoking is "a good thing".

It's a great thing!

2 posted on 08/10/2008 8:20:38 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: ricks_place
they've made it a crime for residents to carry two packs of cigarettes that weren't purchased in the state

I don't smoke, but this is insane. Put me on that jury!

3 posted on 08/10/2008 8:21:51 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ricks_place

Exactly. Socialism: Meet freedom-loving-chain-smoking-capitalists. /sarcasm


4 posted on 08/10/2008 8:22:20 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ricks_place

Arizona seems to have given up on extorting money from smokers. I guess they killed their golden goose. Speeding cameras are the “in” thing here now for “revenue.”


5 posted on 08/10/2008 8:23:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I'm trying to save the planet!" - Nancy Pelosi ..........ROTFLMAO! What a dumbass!)
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To: ricks_place

**States learn a lesson in Economics-101**

Especially when we NY’ers know where the Indian Reservations with the Cheap smokes are. Liberal Morons who don’t seem to understand... SUPPLY AND DEMAND RULE!!!

VIVA LA CAPITALISMA!!


6 posted on 08/10/2008 8:23:38 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I'll never vote for a LIBERAL ... even if they Do have an (R) after their name.)
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To: ricks_place
One word: Chantix.

Smokers have had it and are quitting in droves. It's the best revenge against the clowns who thought we were an endless revenue stream. They can suck eggs now.
7 posted on 08/10/2008 8:24:58 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: ricks_place
House Majority Leader Kumar Barve

Recently pled guilty to drunk driving. No word if he was smoking at the time.

8 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:13 PM PDT by iowamark ("not smart enough to make it as a writer, not pretty enough to model or act")
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I highly doubt the smokers have “quit”. I am sure there is a black market evolving even more than just driving to another state. I am sure there are more than a couple of people selling cigs out of their van.


9 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:54 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Drango
It's a great thing!

Maryland is a tiny state - I suspicion most are simply going to another state for their smokes...

When prices reach the tipping point, anything, people find another way...

This is a prime example of why raising taxes doesn't work...

10 posted on 08/10/2008 8:26:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: Thrownatbirth
They can suck eggs now.

No, they will tax eggs BIG time.

11 posted on 08/10/2008 8:26:51 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: SheLion; Gabz

Ping-a-rooni!


12 posted on 08/10/2008 8:26:55 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: ricks_place
A few pols are pretending to be happy that 30 million fewer cigarette packs have been bought in the state so far this year.

Idiots. They've never heard of "smuggling."

13 posted on 08/10/2008 8:33:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with desire for evil.)
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House Majority Leader Kumar Barve

Recently pled guilty to drunk driving. No word if he was smoking at the time.

We should write him and suggest they raise the state tax on a liter of whiskey to $10.00 a bottle. Obviously people in Maryland are still drinking. :)

14 posted on 08/10/2008 8:37:32 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (A kid at McDonalds has more real-world work experience than Barack Hussein.)
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To: ricks_place

Atlas Smoked.


15 posted on 08/10/2008 8:38:14 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: RandallFlagg

SheLion, died 06/28/2008...may she R.I.P.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2036688/posts


16 posted on 08/10/2008 8:42:24 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: ricks_place
Maryland is only the latest state to prove the folly of trying to finance government with a tax on a shrinking pool of smokers.

Originally, these exorbitant tobacco taxes were supposed to be used to pay for smoking-related health costs. The logic being that if people quit smoking, health costs would go down and the taxes wouldn't be missed.

Yeah, right!

Now cigarette taxes are being used for everything from parks & recreation, children's health care, schools and balancing budgets. Are any of these taxes used for smoking related costs anymore? I doubt it. Needless to say, when people quit smoking (or otherwise evade paying these increasingly exorbitant tobacco taxes) something else is going to have to be taxed to make up for the loss of revenue. How many of those people who supported cigarette taxes wholeheartedly even considered this?

By raising the cost of cigarettes to $4, $5 and even $9 a pack, they've killed the golden goose and either motivated people to quit or sent them to find black market sources. Gotta love the Law of Unintended Consequences. It proves itself true every time.

17 posted on 08/10/2008 8:47:49 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: ricks_place
Maryland is only the latest state to prove the folly of trying to finance government with a tax on a shrinking pool of smokers...this is bizarre, even for government - raise taxes on something to try to stamp it out and finance some program with the income, then puzzle when the income falls because you've managed to stamp out what you taxed - it's a very old truism that you get less of what you tax - maybe those who want to tax the "excess profits" of the oils will learn something from this story - nah.......
18 posted on 08/10/2008 8:52:38 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: AndyJackson
Mel Thompson knew what to do (paragraph 2). May he Rest In Peace.
19 posted on 08/10/2008 8:56:08 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: gwilhelm56
They stopped taking credit cards on the reservations and in NY state they are trying to pass a Sales Tax that would apply on Reservations.

NY Senate passes Indian reservation tobacco tax

20 posted on 08/10/2008 8:58:21 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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