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U.S. moves to strip alleged Nazi's citizenship
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Posted on 07/16/2008 9:48:16 AM PDT by kronos77

The U.S. Justice Department has asked a Seattle federal court to revoke the citizenship of a Washington state resident accused of serving the Nazis.

Tuesday's complaint alleges that Yugoslavian-born Peter Egner, 86, in April 1941 joined the Nazi-controlled Security Police and Security Service in German-occupied Belgrade, Serbia, a Nazi mobile killing unit that participated in the mass murder of more than 17,000 Serbian civilians during World War II.

According to the complaint, Egner has admitted volunteering to serve in the Security Police and Security Service and guarding prisoners as they were being transferred to concentration camps. Egner also admitted serving as an interpreter during interrogations of political prisoners, which sometimes involved severe torture. Prisoners often were executed following their interrogations.

Egner came to the United States in 1960 and became a citizen six years later. The Justice Department asserts that his citizenship should be revoked because he concealed his Nazi service when applying for citizenship.

"The government alleges that Peter Egner served in a notorious Nazi unit that murdered thousands of Serbian Jews and other unarmed civilians," said Office of Special Investigations Director Eli Rosenbaum. "No one who particpated, as we allege the defendant did, in the diabolical Nazi program of persecution is entitled to retain U.S. citizenship.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: doj; egner; nazi; serbia; serbs; warcrime; warcrimes; wot; wwii
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To: kronos77
Yup, while they obviously killed Jews, their first role was suppression of political dissent, through murder. Dissent being anyone not in full support of the Reich. Irrespective of religion.

The US role is simply to get rid of him, if Serbia wants to make a case, I hope they go for it.

41 posted on 07/16/2008 4:03:26 PM PDT by SJackson (I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), roasted grasshopper (crunchy), BH Obama)
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To: kronos77
US dep of justice STILL did not sent any documents, or even charged him.

We're not cooperating with his prosecution in Serbia? This isn't a capital case, I doubt there's any legal conflict other than most European countries have lighter sentencing. Why wouldn't we do that?

42 posted on 07/16/2008 4:06:19 PM PDT by SJackson (I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), roasted grasshopper (crunchy), BH Obama)
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To: kronos77
"As for einsatz gruppen, Serbia suffered 100:1 ratio, like Russia, 100 shot Serbs for each killed German soldier and 50 for each collaborator killed."

I read that Hitler ordered that "100 Serbs shot for every German", personally.

The Serbs were always a thorn in Hitler's (and Germany's) side, because they were in the way of the German Drang nach Osten -- the German drive to control Eastern Europe.

Hitler blamed Serbs for the Germans humiliating defeat during WWI and the even more humiliating effects of the Treaty of Versailles on Germany.

Then at the beginning of WWII, after Prince Paul signed on to allow Yugoslavia as a pass through country for Germany, the Serbs revolted and overthrew Prince Paul to fight back against Germany. Hitler's Operation Punishment bombing of Belgrade cost Hitler valuable time and resources.

A number of historians have cited the Serbs revolting as the reason Operation Barbarossa failed. Too many German troops were tied down in Yugoslavia for too long, delaying Hitler's entry into Russia too long and eventually costing Hitler the war.

Germany didn't succeed in its long dreamed and thrice attempted, Drang nach Osten ("The Drive Eastward") until recently (with US help), wearing its new face -- the EU. But the Balkan players all on the same sides for the third time, once again.

43 posted on 07/16/2008 4:25:28 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: kronos77

“Not really.
US dep of justice STILL did not sent any documents, or even charged him.
By Serbian constitution he cant be extradicted, but will be tried in Serbia.
That is if US Dep. of Justice bothers to mail documents and indictment to Serbia. P.S. WOW you think genocide and barfight are the same thing?”

Rubbish. US officials publicly stated the paperwork had been submitted already. And C. Rice publicly put her comment to that very fact.

Serbia is hiding an ill tempered 6-5 240 pound thug who put another kid weighing 135 pounds in the hospital. And his disgusting mother insulted the kids parents saying they were making a bigger deal of it than it was, WHILE THE KID IS STILL IN THE HOSPITAL.

Classy baby, classy.


44 posted on 07/16/2008 4:43:25 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: kronos77

btt


45 posted on 07/16/2008 7:12:52 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: romanesq
Rubbish. US officials publicly stated the paperwork had been submitted already.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to submit a link to this information?

46 posted on 07/16/2008 9:56:11 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: F-117A

You want a link to the story or a link to the submitted embassy information?
I detect more Serbian obfuscation.

http://wtop.com/?nid=385&sid=1440893

The US has made its protest well known but lacking an extradition treaty, clearly the thug is going to do fine in Serbia. In fact, he just signed up with a local basketball team there.

I guess he won’t be prosecuted there either. And the kid who was half his weight is still laying in a hospital in critical condition.

Meanwhile the thug’s mom blathers about the hospitalized kid’s parents saying the mom is making too much of a big deal about it.

Yeah, we see where this is going.


47 posted on 07/17/2008 5:04:17 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq
You previously stated...

Rubbish. US officials publicly stated the paperwork had been submitted already.

But, I don't see where the article you link to says that! This is what the article says...

Serbian law does not allow him to be extradited, and Serb officials have suggested U.S. authorities hand over the full case file so they can consider whether Kovacevic should be prosecuted in Serbia

Can you show us where the article says that U.S. Authorities have done so? Perhaps you are the one guilty of obfuscation!

Are you Serbian?

48 posted on 07/17/2008 6:59:04 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: F-117A

The request by US officials has been made verbally, written and publicly.
Serbia will not do anything. The thug is playing basketball now in the Serbian league. He’s not hiding.

Meanwhile the poor kid half his size is laying in the hospital still in a coma.

I linked that article as its most recent and shows exactly what is going on now.

I’m American.


49 posted on 07/17/2008 7:17:47 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq

Serbia have not recieved as much as police file.


50 posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:34 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: F-117A; romanesq

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/01/news/Serbia-US-Student.php


51 posted on 07/17/2008 9:51:42 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kronos77
Diplomat to Serbs: Victim's a mess - July 16th 2008 - The American ambassador to Serbia said Wednesday a brutally beaten college student was in grim shape and implored the Serbian government to hand over the hulking fugitive charged in the case. Bryan Steinhauer of Brooklyn "weighs less than 99 pounds and is unable to eat" or speak, Ambassador Cameron Munter said in a stinging statement. "He remains in a coma after 2-1/2 months." Munter was countering recent reports in the Serbian media that suggested Steinhauer, 22, was in good condition after he was pummeled on May 4 at a Binghamton University bar, allegedly by Miladin Kovacevic. "This was not an ordinary bar fight," the ambassador said. "As he lay on the floor, Steinhauer was repeatedly kicked in the face and head, to the point where he had multiple fractures on both sides of his face and his skull." Munter ratcheted up the rhetoric Wednesday, a day after it was revealed Kovacevic, 21, had signed with a Serbian basketball team. The 6-foot-9, 280-pound suspect fled the U.S. for his native country on June 9 shortly after he was released on $100,000 bail into the custody of a Serbian diplomat.
52 posted on 07/17/2008 9:54:30 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kronos77
Serbia have not recieved as much as police file.

What I find interesting is how the point of the thread was about an 86 year-old WWII Nazi war criminal and how it got spun into the recent incident about the basketball player.

53 posted on 07/17/2008 10:27:36 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Why should we extradite anyone to Serbia when criminal Serb officials help a Serb fugitive escape the USA and then the criminal-harboring Serb government refuses to extradite?

Maybe this guy "doesn't trust" the Serb justice system. How can he get a fair trial in a place like Serbia which harbors not just baller thugs, but mass-murdering war criminals as well?

54 posted on 07/17/2008 10:39:32 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Well someone can ask how come so much Nazis ended up in United States...
Not that I imply something...
55 posted on 07/17/2008 11:00:26 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Bokababe
Too many German troops were tied down in Yugoslavia for too long, delaying Hitler's entry into Russia too long and eventually costing Hitler the war.

That's communist propaganda. Tito's lie was the 36 divisions were tied down in Yugoslavia chasing his Partisans when the fact of the matter is that no more than 6 active (and not the best) divisions were around at the same time.

56 posted on 07/17/2008 11:09:11 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: kronos77

Must be the same reason Serbs like Kovacevic come here to the USA. Because the USA is the greatest nation in the world and their homeland sucks. Only after he was forced to flee because of his criminal behavior did he return to Serbia where his brutality is applauded by like minds. Serbia attracts such criminal dregs who are no longer welcome in civilization.


57 posted on 07/17/2008 11:13:12 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic; Tailgunner Joe
"What I find interesting is how the point of the thread was about an 86 year-old WWII Nazi war criminal and how it got spun into the recent incident about the basketball player.

Thinking the same thing, LR -- in spite of the fact that there was already a thread on the basket ball player, which TGJ knows well since he is the one who posted it.

58 posted on 07/17/2008 11:31:26 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Why should we extradite anyone to Serbia when criminal Serb officials help a Serb fugitive escape the USA and then the criminal-harboring Serb government refuses to extradite?

The two cases are separate. I wholeheartedly agree that Serbia needs to extradite this thug posthaste.

But this old Nazi lied on his citizenship application and needs to be booted out of the USA. He should not darken our soil for a single day longer.

59 posted on 07/17/2008 11:35:12 AM PDT by Citizen Blade
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To: Diocletian
"That's communist propaganda.

If it is, then it has infected virtually every military historians view of why Operation Barbarossa failed. Virtually all, except the Croats ones (of course), argue that it was at least one of the main factors, along with Russian summer rain that made it more difficult to carry heavy weaponry.

60 posted on 07/17/2008 11:40:15 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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