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Fighting All the Way - How Long Will Clinton Fight for the Michigan and Florida Delegates?
slate.com ^ | May 30, 2008 | John Dickerson

Posted on 05/30/2008 4:12:08 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

"Is Clinton going to make it easy, or is she going to make it hard?" That's how a longtime Democratic Hill staffer frames the dilemma that will face his party after Saturday's expected ruling on seating the delegates from Florida and Michigan. With the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee set to determine the fate of these rule-breaking states, Hillary Clinton and her campaign have demanded that all of the 368 delegates be seated. The bedrock democratic principle that all votes should be counted is at stake, they have argued. To do anything less risks provoking a November backlash against Democrats in both states.

If the RBC—as it's now the fashion to call it in heated bar conversations—seats all the delegates, Clinton would be 55 delegates closer to Obama, whom she currently trails by 200 delegates. That ruling would also legitimize the popular vote in the two states and thereby Clinton's claim that more people have voted for her than for her opponent.

It would also prove the existence of unicorns. Which is to say that this fantasy outcome, in which Clinton gets everything she wants, is highly unlikely for a number of reasons: Committee rules may not allow the full seating; counting delegates and votes from Michigan would be unfair to Obama, who was not on the ballot in the state; and to seat all delegates would virtually erase the sanctions that were put in place to keep states from jumping ahead in the established order of primaries. There's another bedrock principle at stake here: The rules are the rules.

So, what does Clinton do if the RBC doesn't seat all the delegates? Her campaign advisers won't say, but she has two options.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; fl2008; hillary; mi2008

1 posted on 05/30/2008 4:12:08 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

She knows the longer she hangs in there the better it gets for her.


2 posted on 05/30/2008 4:16:38 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: valkyry1
How Long Will Clinton Fight for the Michigan and Florida Delegates?

...will a pit bull let go of your a$$ if you tickle his nose?

3 posted on 05/30/2008 4:19:15 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is Hillary. I got a twenny sez “bitter end.” BTT.


4 posted on 05/30/2008 4:29:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Clintons will NEVER....EVER let a BLACK GUY BEAT THEM....NEVER!!!!


5 posted on 05/30/2008 4:30:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
She's turning this into a referendum within the Dimm party on how badly they want the Clintons politically gone.
6 posted on 05/30/2008 4:39:40 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: valkyry1

It’s a shame she doesn’t apply her policy here, to jihadis there.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 4:42:50 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: freema

“Fighting All the Way - How Long Will Clinton Fight for the Michigan and Florida Delegates?”

Until she is the nominee.


8 posted on 05/30/2008 4:51:46 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Change the 22nd Amendment so all politicians serve two terms.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Karl Rove must be advising her!:)


9 posted on 05/30/2008 5:00:06 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; valkyry1

As long as it takes!


10 posted on 05/30/2008 5:12:21 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I tell you what, the longer she hangs in there like an obsessed, psychotic Terminator, the more I wish she was on our side.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 5:17:12 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The article did not mention Hillary’s third option, which is she could show the super delegates the video she has of Michelle Obama speaking at her church about “white people”!


12 posted on 05/30/2008 6:43:28 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Free ThinkerNY

She will never quit without a court fight.


13 posted on 05/30/2008 6:46:49 PM PDT by csmusaret (John McCain is the evil of three lessers)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
There's another bedrock principle at stake here: The rules are the rules.

The irony is so thick, you have to brush it away like flys.

14 posted on 05/30/2008 7:31:37 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

5/29...Hillary Clinton-— “you can’t tell how far a frog will jump until you punch him.”


15 posted on 05/30/2008 8:24:40 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
If the RBC -- as it's now the fashion to call it in heated bar conversations -- seats all the delegates, Clinton would be 55 delegates closer to Obama, whom she currently trails by 200 delegates. That ruling would also legitimize the popular vote in the two states and thereby Clinton's claim that more people have voted for her than for her opponent... Committee rules may not allow the full seating; counting delegates and votes from Michigan would be unfair to Obama, who was not on the ballot in the state; and to seat all delegates would virtually erase the sanctions that were put in place to keep states from jumping ahead in the established order of primaries. There's another bedrock principle at stake here: The rules are the rules.
Oh, who is that guy kiddin'? The fact that the DNC allows any challenge or debate about this shows that the Dhimmicratic Party doesn't have any rules per se. What a whitewash job. Or maybe blackwash. Or half-blackwash.

Obama (for the record) REMOVED HIMSELF from the Michigan ballot, which he wasn't required to do, and Hillary didn't remove herself, but didn't campaign either. He's NOT ENTITLED to any Michigan delegates, period.

If the DNC votes to admit the delegation, then -- according to the rules-are-the-rules school of what passes for thought -- the breakdown has to be under their rules, which is to day, Hillary won a bunch of delegates, and the rest are UNCOMMITTED, and can vote for whomever they choose. ANYTHING ELSE is a smoke filled room type deal, and completely corrupt -- IOW, they'll choose ANYTHING ELSE.
16 posted on 05/30/2008 8:39:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

I agree with you 100%. But as Rush said the fix is in.


17 posted on 06/02/2008 4:44:43 PM PDT by dervish (Why is the post-racial candidate drawing 90+ percent of the Black vote?)
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