Gene Disorder Complicates Sect Custody Fight (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread - 4/27/08)

NPR ^ | April 27, 2008 | N/A

[MizSterious]

Gene Disorder Complicates Sect Custody Fight

April 27, 2008 ·
Lawyers for the mothers of 462 children taken from a polygamist ranch in West Texas will ask a state appeals court for relief, but the process is slowed by problems in determining the children's parentage. Texas family law officials continue to investigate allegations of physical and sexual abuse. Wade Goodwyn and Liane Hansen discuss the legal proceedings.

Meanwhile, many of the children in the FLDS group suffer from fumarase deficiency, a genetic disease that causes acute retardation and physical deformation. The disease was spread through decades of inbreeding, according to John Dougherty, an investigative reporter who has written extensively about the polygamist sect.

Link includes audio report with more details.

[MizSterious]

4/26 thread with articles on:

Cost of care for the children of the sect, charges that two kids might be missing, how members of the sect dress, court rejects requests of mothers to stay with children, appeals court cancels hearing, Canadian involved in sect, culture shock for kids, oil drillers last laugh, possible involvement in human trafficking and drugs at Colorado City, Rep. Kay Granger's request to investigate financial ties to USG

4/25 thread with aritcles on:

Courts allowing state to place children in foster homes, legal challenges to the raid, beliefs on polygamy, protests against the raid and removal of children, Warren Jeff's appeal, portions of the Texas Family Code

4/24 thread with articles on:

Seized polygamous sect kids face tough adjustment, articles on how and where the children were placed, Carolyn Jessup on Canadian children possibly at the ranch, legal aid group challenges judge, interview with Benjamin Bistline, 40 women choose to go to safe house instead of back to cult, 25 girls claimed to be adults, now found to be minors.

Currently collecting informative links to include with the daily threads--should appear this weekend.

As always, for the sake of orderliness (and to prevent the pulling of threads and/or messages), let's do try to stay on topic and polite. You can't have a flame war if you don't take the bait.

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[MizSterious]

Daily thread ping!

[greyfoxx39]

Ping to daily thread

[EggsAckley]

“Meanwhile, many of the children in the FLDS group suffer from fumarase deficiency, a genetic disease that causes acute retardation and physical deformation. The disease was spread through decades of inbreeding,”

FINALLY this comes out. *sigh*

[MizSterious]

Eldorado children's fate in hands of little-known process

By Chuck Lindell
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Sunday, April 27, 2008

The fate of 462 children who were separated from their parents in a polygamous sect will be decided in a little-known, highly regimented legal process in the civil court system.

Mandatory hearings will be held on a timetable prescribed by federal and state law — all designed to help a judge decide whether the children will return home or be placed with a relative, adopted by a stranger or made a ward of the state.

That decision must be made within one year of their removal from home, though a judge can grant one six-month extension.

Absent horrific or repeated abuse, state law requires Child Protective Services to work toward reuniting families.

Toward that goal, CPS must offer an array of self-improvement opportunities to parents, including drug and alcohol treatment, job training, parenting classes and counseling.

Excerpt. Read the rest at source: Statesman.com.

[CalvaryJohn]

Inbreeding. I am not surprised.

[MizSterious]

April 26, 2008, 7:24PM

Polygamist sect pleads for Perry's help to get children back

Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle

Acting as a representative for the women and children of the Yearning for Zion ranch near Eldorado, Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leader Willie

Jessop again asked Texas Gov. Rick Perry to "block the separation of our 437 children from their mothers" in a letter sent Saturday.

Jessop noted that the group has sent previous requests to meet with the governor that were ignored.

Calling the removal of the children from the compound "some of the most horrific violations of human rights that have ever been allowed on American soil," the letter accuses Child Protective Services of misrepresenting conditions within the sect and making false allegations against the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a splinter sect of Mormonism that believes in polygamy for men.

"The Texas Department of Family and Protective Services have demonstrated, in a most blatant way, their inability to properly care for, or even account for our children. Many have been left in critical medical conditions, resulting in permanent mental damage through threats, intimidation, and ultimately separating them from their parents," Jessop wrote.

Excerpt. Read the rest at source: The Houston Chronicle.

[MizSterious]

An Unusual Prosecution of a Way of Life

Texas Will Attempt to Show That Polygamist Culture Itself Harms Children

Members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints show strain after spending 11 days in a shelter. Here, they are at the Yearning for Zion Ranch near Eldorado, Tex., which law enforcement raided April 3. (By Tony Gutierrez -- Associated Press)

ELDORADO, Tex. -- The ironic thing is that before the big sheriff's department armored personnel carrier appeared outside the Yearning for Zion Ranch, it was starting to seem as though America had finally figured out how to live with its polygamists.

For more than a century, authorities had alternately persecuted and ignored the groups practicing plural marriage around the West -- splinters from mainstream Mormonism, splinters of splinters. Mostly, they ignored them.

But, in the past few years, officials in some states have begun trying to bring these groups out of the shadows. They offered a deal: Marry however often you want, but don't marry children. A Supreme Court case on gay sex also provided unlikely help.

Then came Eldorado.

Excerpt. Read the rest at source: The Washington Post.

[varina davis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumarase_deficiency

This details the disease.

[deport]

Here's another assertion about the actions of this FLDS group in Eldorado with regards to children.

Meanwhile, parents who have been cast out of the FLDS Church have been coming forward to help establish paternity. Some had no idea their children were in Texas.

"We are hearing from parents who tell us they were forced out of the FLDS, and they believe that their children may now be in DFPS custody," said Rolfe. "We are making arrangements for those parents to submit samples to labs that are close to where they live."

[panaxanax]

Great source!! This is a story from NPR (lefty communist public radio) with no known author(”N/A”).

You Mormon-haters are killing me! It's like mass hysteria with you . “Oh my, did you hear the FLDS were really aliens from another planet?

The “What ifs”, “could be”, “probably”, “well, I heard that...”, “did you hear that....”, “they wear weird clothes”, “the kids all look alike”, “the women have strange hairdo's” quite frankly is getting very old and blowing any credibility you started out with completely out of the water.

You all have become obsessed with this. What are you, a bunch of little old shut-ins with nobody to gossip with? It is truly becoming a joke and I think Jim Robinson would agree 100%.

Here's an idea! Lets all wait and see what the facts are BEFORE we convict people. Duh!

If there were older guys that were raping/forcing underage girls into marriage then, like I've said it before, will purchase the rope to hang them with.

I'll repeat that for the memory impaired:

If there were older guys that were raping/forcing underage girls into marriage then, like I've said it before, will purchase the rope to hang them with.

Be sure to ping all the usual sky-is-falling suspects before you go back to your little hen-party.

[Twinkie]

These things tend to happen when your father is your husband and your children are your half sisters and brothers. - Does that partially explain it? - Let’s call it what it is - ungodly.

[ReformedBeckite]

Meanwhile, many of the children in the FLDS group suffer from fumarase deficiency, a genetic disease that causes acute retardation and physical deformation. The disease was spread through decades of inbreeding,......

Kind of reminds me of the command some where in the New Testament that Christ commands his followers to go out into the world not to hide from the world in some religious culture. Genetically sometimes the best mate you could find to promote Genes is some one from another country.

[greyfoxx39]

There is a FR thread up on this.

An Unusual Prosecution of a Way of Life

[CRBDeuce]

I was interested right up until I read the source...NPR! Think I'll wait 'til this story gets vetted! ...but If certain frequently posted graphics are causing problems on your computer, FireFox browser (and possibly others) can actually block them entirely. Just right-click your mouse, and click on the "block image from..." option.

thanks for the reminder!

[Drango]

This isn’t a better source than NPR but it is an interesting overview...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumarase_deficiency

[UCANSEE2]

Thank you for posting this article.

[greyfoxx39]

You Mormon-haters are killing me! It's like mass hysteria with you . “Oh my, did you hear the FLDS were really aliens from another planet?

ROTF hysterically laughing my butt off! Here is a thread by one of your FELLOW MORMONS. I suggest you try a keyword search for "flds" before you go off on a hateful rant.

Forbidden Fruit (Inbreeding among FLDS cult)

[MizSterious]

I just saw it. Frankly, I am starting to think the whole daily thread thing is redundant.

[UCANSEE2]

Post #5. Very interesting as well.

Thank You for your efforts at coordinating the threads on this subject.

Many talk. A few do the hard work.