Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

But 71% of Americans want abortion kept legal in some form.

That number is absolute crap. Where did you find it, the NARAL website?

15,821 posted on 04/29/2007 9:43:07 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)

To: Reagan Man; Jim Robinson

I’ve asked you not to post to me ever again, Reagan Man. Also, I posted a comment last night that said that I had also registered at Wide Awakes. I have also registered at three other websites; not that it is any of your business. Your continued attempts to smear me, lie about me, and stalk me are disgraceful.

Jim, if you do not say something to Reagan Man now, I will have lost an incredible amount of any respect I ever had for you and this forum.

15,822 posted on 04/29/2007 9:48:00 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)

To: BykrBayb; gpapa; Merry

Don’t you know that when you post absolute undeniable proof, trolls are going to claim it proves the opposite?

Please read the full comment:

From WA 29-Apr-2007 Author Merry CommentTime1 hour ago permalinkReport Post People, we need to get over the FR site and start posting articles and commenting. We have to help WA grow. I know it's hard to find interesting articles because the MSM is treating all Republican candidates with a big yawn, but we need things to discuss besides FR which is getting old quickly.

Where in this post does Merry say "we need to get over to Free Republic and disrupt things there?" As I read it, Merry basically said "we should stop discussing Free Republic and start discussing other things."

15,823 posted on 04/29/2007 9:48:21 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

Most polls I've seen on abortion are in the range of one-third oppose all abortions starting with the day of conception, one-fourth support all abortions right up to the day before birth, and the rest waffle, depending on things such as the duration of pregnancy and whether rape or incest are involved.

Admittedly most of these polls are from MSM sources. But I've never seen a credible poll indicating that a majority of the population supports a total, day one of pregnancy ban regardless of circumstances.

15,824 posted on 04/29/2007 9:49:38 PM PDT by RexTheRunt (The MSM says "Jump, Republican pigs!" and the GOP tugs its forelock and grabs air.)

To: Jim Robinson

Your list is nearly identical to mine. Except that Mitt Romney is in the "overuled out" section of mine as he governed like a liberal as Governor of Massachusetts.

Take a look at THIS DOCUMENT and see what I'm talking about. It's lengthy and clearly demonstrates Romney's liberal record. He's not nearly as bad as Giuliani, but he's FAR too liberal.

Here's more:

The REAL Mitt Romney (YouTube Video)

"I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain it and support it." Boston Globe, Oct. 26, 1994.

"I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose."
Mitt Romney, in a 2002 letter to the National Abortion Rights Action League.

"Mitt Romney supports the strict enforcement of gun laws. He is a supporter of the federal assault weapons ban." Romney for Governor website

15,825 posted on 04/29/2007 9:50:02 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")

>>>>>I assume this means that you want the President to issue an EO banning abortions nationwide.

Sure. I'd go for that. After the appropriate Constitutional challenges were played out, we might be able to control the killings. It might just wake some America's up to whats been happening to the unborn since Roe v Wade became the law of the land. The SCOTUS decision in Roe v Wade was an act of raw judicial power, a judicial fiat. Either case, abortion on demand is an abomination that must stopped now. Nowhere in the Constitution is it written that a woman has a right to kill her unborn child. The Founders never intended such a heinous court decision become law.

15,826 posted on 04/29/2007 9:50:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)

To: Jim Robinson

For the second time—

Please close my account.

15,827 posted on 04/29/2007 9:50:37 PM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)

I assume this means that you want the President to issue an EO banning abortions nationwide.

Sure.

Let's call it the gestation proclamation. ;-)

Would you vote only for such a candidate?

I recognize that there are pro-lifers who have their heart in the right place who do not understand the federalist argument I have outlined.

That said, I am not keen on voting for someone who believes abortion should be decided by the states, and who actually opposes a federal role. We are not a confederacy, and life is a right.

15,828 posted on 04/29/2007 9:50:57 PM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)

To: Brad's Gramma; Oliver Optic; sissyjane; Merry; Txsleuth; annie laurie; jimrob

BG, I think you misinterpreted the thrust of the comments made at WA. The poster indicated that they, the members of WA, should stop posting stuff at FR and instead post them at WA instead. I have no problem with that and hope most of them continue to visit, post and comment on FR as well. On the other hand we know that some who members of both WA & FR are still posting here on this and other threads and mixing it up with other Freepers who support the stated goals of FR. Here is another WA comment on the same post I described in my original posting at FR. For clearity I will include the original WA post as well. At the end I post another WA comment that well describes the underlying issue I am concerned about. I regret that I am unable to ping the poster of that last comment as his/her account has been banned or suspended.

On abt. 29-Apr-2007

Author Merry
CommentTime1 hour ago permalinkReport Post

People, we need to get over the FR site and start posting articles and commenting. We have to help WA grow. I know it's hard to find interesting articles because the MSM is treating all Republican candidates with a big yawn, but we need things to discuss besides FR which is getting old quickly.

Comment
Author Txsleuth
Posted By: Merry
People, we need to get over the FR site and start posting articles and commenting. We have to help WA grow. I know it's hard to find interesting articles because the MSM is treating all Republican candidates with a big yawn, but we need things to discuss besides FR which is getting old quickly.

I noticed that you are walking the walk...I just posted to that thread with the Hillary article you posted...thank you!!!

On abt. 29-Apr-2009 (My comment: the Salt River and Chat categories are closed to non-members; I assume TOS refers to 'the other site' or FR)

AnnieLaurie
CommentTime39 minutes ago permalinkReport Post
Posted By: Merry

People, we need to get over the FR site and start posting articles and commenting. We have to help WA grow. I know it's hard to find interesting articles because the MSM is treating all Republican candidates with a big yawn, but we need things to discuss besides FR which is getting old quickly.

Hi Merry, I think a big part of it is that people need to vent a bit about what happened and circumstances that brought them here, and it usually involves TOS. Some have just arrived here and others have been here a few days or weeks. It's a relief to see old friends on threads and natural to want to touch on what occurred there. That said, I think as new posters settle in and learn their way around, they'll see that the Salt River area and chat are the best places to discuss TOS.

Yes, it can be hard to find good news articles. An alternative would be to post threads with opinion pieces by favorite columnists. I'm pretty computer challenged and never posted a thread on another site but found it quite easy to do so here.

Comments from WA on abt. 29 April

zook Author
CommentTime1 day ago permalinkReport Post
Posted By: Miss Marple
But apparently MadIvan can change how the title appears in the listing, which is good!
Hi Miss Marple! I'm so proud--I just got the formal boot from the trailer park site!

15,829 posted on 04/29/2007 9:52:12 PM PDT by gpapa

To: conservative in nyc; BykrBayb

15,830 posted on 04/29/2007 9:54:05 PM PDT by gpapa

>>>>>I’ve asked you not to post to me ever again, Reagan Man.

This is an open forum and this thread is wide open for anyone to post on. Your falsehoods must be challenged. Your support for Rudy must be exposed. I'm not smearing you and I'm not stalking you. I'm revealing your politics, using your own words. If you don't like that #205, move along.

15,831 posted on 04/29/2007 9:55:00 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)

15,832 posted on 04/29/2007 9:55:53 PM PDT by gpapa

If you post in a public thread anyone has the right to comment on your post. Why does Reagan Man have to ignore anything you choose to say? I think you could ask that someone not send you private messages, but it’s absurd to ask that someone not be able to comment on your public posts.

15,833 posted on 04/29/2007 9:57:43 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)

15,834 posted on 04/29/2007 9:58:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)

Elyse, perhaps you would be so kind as to read through this thread and read the comments made regarding this situation. Also, please feel free to read my posting history regarding Rudy Giuliani. It is NOT absurd to ask someone who is persistently pinging you to rude comments, lies and other unworthy things to stop pinging you. Comment=a ping.

Requesting someone to not ping/post comment to you is not unheard of on this forum.

15,835 posted on 04/29/2007 10:00:09 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)

Buh Bye..........more room for the rest of us.

Woohoo!

15,836 posted on 04/29/2007 10:01:12 PM PDT by Shortstop7

The majority support severely restricting abortion along the lines of the "only in cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother" exceptions.

My argument is with the "we must change hearts and minds" fallacy. The majority of hearts and minds are already closer to the pro-life position than the current abortion of demand culture imposed by Roe and Casey. There never was a pro-abortion majority and the "hearts and minds" argument is made by those brainwashed by the pro-abortion forces and media and too chicken poop to take a position that they wrongly perceive as unpopular on the most important moral issue of the last half century.

15,837 posted on 04/29/2007 10:01:36 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)

To: stephenjohnbanker; Reagan Man

#205 was a link that led to my registration page at the Wide Awakes website. Reagan Man thought he had a “gotcha”.

15,838 posted on 04/29/2007 10:02:09 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)

To: stephenjohnbanker

She was the 205th person to sign up at WA.

And you have FReepMail coming.

15,839 posted on 04/29/2007 10:02:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)

Well, if a Presidential candidate said clearly during the campaign that he would sign the "gestation proclamation" and the voters approved, I don't think I'd have a problem.

If he issued such an EO after taking office and without prior notice, I think we could see a shattering of our federal system.

If you understand that risk and think it necessary when compared to the killing of the unborn, I can respect that position.

Just remember that in 1860 and 1861, there were many fire eaters on both sides who thought that after a brief period of saber rattling, their opponents would give in. They were wrong.

15,840 posted on 04/29/2007 10:02:53 PM PDT by RexTheRunt (The MSM says "Jump, Republican pigs!" and the GOP tugs its forelock and grabs air.)

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