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NYT Plans Exclusive Story on Iraq and Research of Nuke Bomb
the drudge report ^ | 11/2/06 | matt drudge

Posted on 11/02/2006 4:55:43 PM PST by letsgonova19087

NYT PLANS EXCLUSIVE STORY ON IRAQ AND RESEARCH OF NUKE BOMB... NEWSROOM SOURCE TELLS DRUDGE: 'IT WILL LEAD THE PAPER ON FRIDAY... IT SHOULD IGNITE NEWS CYCLES'... DEVELOPING...


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To: mwl1

This is ridiculous. After Clinton gave N Korea the materials for a nuke? Something is wrong in Denmark. NYT and Dems really concerned about Kerry fallout? A "pretend" subject for Sunday's shows?

Now I really wonder what is coming Saturday.


301 posted on 11/02/2006 7:31:03 PM PST by Hattie
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To: mware; jveritas
I know, he's been great. I think what has just happened is this government website and the translations of jveritas have pushed the IAEA to fess up about what was in Iraq in fear that the whole middle-east will become nuclear if anymore is published. The government has been pushing these docs on the websites with a little bit more info each time trying to get the acknowledgment of Saddam's threat but now it's getting to the nitty-gritty and there's obviously some worry to a point where the IAEA is yelling NO MAS, NO MAS!
302 posted on 11/02/2006 7:31:21 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: pollyannaish

Still hoping we get an Osama tape and a Saddam guilty verdict.


303 posted on 11/02/2006 7:31:40 PM PST by mwl1
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To: gb63
Wouldn't it be great if Tony Snow comes out tomorrow and thanks the NYT for finally confirming WMD in Iraq?

Hahaha! That made me laugh out loud because I could just hear him: "Well, I think the first thing I'd like to do is thank the New York Times for finally admitting there were WMDs in Iraq. Are there any questions?

304 posted on 11/02/2006 7:31:51 PM PST by sizzlemeister
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To: mware
This from a post on another thread by jveritas who has been translating documents for months.

I read thousands of documents so far and not a single one "detail" how to build a nuclear bomb. So now the New York Times is interested in the documents but they do not mention the many documents that show Saddam never stopped in working to develop his nuclear program or WMD.

305 posted on 11/02/2006 7:32:05 PM PST by mware
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To: KevinDavis

You'd think they'd be able to come up with something better. "George Bush Feasts on Young Flesh" or "Republicans Torture Animals" or "Bush Administration in Favor of Ethnic Cleansing of Italians"...but this simply defies all logic


306 posted on 11/02/2006 7:32:05 PM PST by letsgonova19087
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To: penelopesire

They will try like heck to spin it but it is an idiotic spin. THe Iranians benefited from this? If that is true, so did every other country in the world -- nothing special about Iran in this context. People will understand that this was Iraqi information and technology, substantiating how dangerous Saddam was and how weak the whole UN inspection nonsense is.

And dollars to donuts that the IAEA frauds leaked this to the NYT before informing us, hoping to pin Iranian nukes on Bush. Political neophytes don't understand what they may have unleashed.


307 posted on 11/02/2006 7:32:22 PM PST by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Well played EQ, well played. I like that scenario very much and think you need to be plugged in with Ken at GOP HQ.
He is as invisible as Howard Dean and has me starving for those classic national ads that slam the Dems right around dinner time.
I have been sensing the surge and we just need that nudge. I thought Kerry might be it, but the Dems are ready to counter with a last ditch effort. We need one more direct hit on Monday. Something that people will go to bed thinking about and waking up ready to vote, even if they have to hold their noses.
It's broken glass time baby. I'm ready for the home stretch.


308 posted on 11/02/2006 7:32:27 PM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: Julliardsux

What moral posture can the Times possibly advocate about non-disclosing documents? The hypocrisy is astonishing.


309 posted on 11/02/2006 7:33:09 PM PST by mwl1
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To: cajungirl

Hey, look, I'm the only conservative there, they hate me for a freak in this university town; I'm not calling third shift to get the low down on the low down times, they'd lie to me anyway!


310 posted on 11/02/2006 7:33:11 PM PST by dangerfield
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To: letsgonova19087; All

Worst Hit Piece on Bush Ever....


311 posted on 11/02/2006 7:33:27 PM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: oceanview
And the theory isn't much of a secret either. I'm willing to bet a google search would get you the theory of how to trigger a nuclear weapon.
312 posted on 11/02/2006 7:33:28 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Global Warming Fears will do for the world what over population fears did for Europe.)
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To: KevinDavis

Sarc???


313 posted on 11/02/2006 7:34:04 PM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: mwl1

That would be quite a busy weekend. And a heck of a "surprise."


314 posted on 11/02/2006 7:34:16 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: letsgonova19087

Okay, so NYT's November surprise is confirming that Bush was right all along - Iraq had hot nuke tech...

Now, pardon me while I try to swat this pig flying around my house...


315 posted on 11/02/2006 7:34:39 PM PST by LikeLight (RYMB)
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To: pollyannaish; All

This is the Worst Hit Piece Ever....


316 posted on 11/02/2006 7:34:43 PM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: jveritas

Jveritas, I hope that Tony Snow recalls your discussions with him about the document you translated. Maybe you will get a call.


317 posted on 11/02/2006 7:34:49 PM PST by mware
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To: JerseyDvl

Thanks JerseyDvl! I expect we'll see a thousand more before next Tuesday.

Now for that Kewpie doll........LOL!


318 posted on 11/02/2006 7:34:55 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: KevinDavis

Well see when I read it, but at this point it seems inept. Not that I mind!


319 posted on 11/02/2006 7:36:29 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: mware
Move America Forward is conservative, not like moveon.org.
320 posted on 11/02/2006 7:36:35 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Global Warming Fears will do for the world what over population fears did for Europe.)
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To: cajungirl

Thanks girl, hey, I've lived in SoCalif for 30 odd years, but I am 100% pure bred Cajun from SW Louisiana.


321 posted on 11/02/2006 7:36:43 PM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: mware
Move America Forward is conservative, not like moveon.org.
322 posted on 11/02/2006 7:36:56 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Global Warming Fears will do for the world what over population fears did for Europe.)
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To: letsgonova19087

Times Story http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?hp&ex=1162530000&en=1511d6b3da302d4f&ei=5094&partner=homepage


323 posted on 11/02/2006 7:37:18 PM PST by bunnyfoofoo
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To: cardinal4
Hello,

LOL! Either there is more (spin) to the story, or the NYT has gone totally can't-think-at-all-nuts. Even further than they have gone before, which is pretty far.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
324 posted on 11/02/2006 7:37:26 PM PST by MOgirl (The Great Pumpkin did arrive....and he brought a PRESENT!!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I agree w you. I also think it's a bit *curious* that Stretch Pelosi (who had an Amber alert issued for her by Rush) and Dingy Harry have been almost totally silent for sometime now and, all of a sudden, they send a letter to the President today about the military. Coinky dinky - possibly, but call me cynical.

Don't know if this has anything to do w the NY Slimes (hit) piece, but this could also prove to be interesting:

MAF To Make Major Announcement Sat. Morning
Move America Forward ^ | Move America Forward

Posted on 11/01/2006 7:40:42 PM PST by AVNevis

This Saturday, November 4, 2006 Move America Forward will be making a major announcement pertaining to America’s foreign policy. Because of security concerns we cannot divulge the facts involved before Saturday morning - 7:00 AM Pacific // 10:00 AM Eastern.

We will need your help in getting this major news story told throughout the nation, so please be sure to check in Saturday morning here at our website - www.MoveAmericaForward.org
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730449/posts


325 posted on 11/02/2006 7:37:31 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: elhombrelibre
Move America Forward is conservative, not like moveon.org.

Yeah I know. I think perhaps they are going to do some sort of rebuttal of the NYT's article, or another interpretation of the information, much like we are doing right now.

326 posted on 11/02/2006 7:38:11 PM PST by mware
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To: dangerfield

Well, it is on Drudge now.

The NYT just attempted to slam the govt as incompetent in revealing Saddam's plans for the big bomb on the govt webstie.

They hope we won't notice and comment,,,What plans? What bomb?


327 posted on 11/02/2006 7:38:43 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: pollyannaish

--I can understand the spin they are trying to put on it, but if it is as it appears...wow. This should be interesting.--

Not only that; there were oodles of info on Iraq - AlQaeda links on that site (many repeated thanks to JVeritas for the translations!).

NYT is trying to SPIN the nuke aspect of the pre-war docs only. The MSM will be exposed as the partisan idiots they are, for ignoring the Iraq - terrorism links on the site. That's an even STRONGER rationale for the Iraq invasion.


328 posted on 11/02/2006 7:38:53 PM PST by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Julliardsux
Even better, IF Iran was using the site, then the IP addresses of the computers used to access it were being recorded by our government!!

Set up web site maybe. No way our people would put out something that wasn't carefully checked or maybe planted there for a reason with false info.

329 posted on 11/02/2006 7:40:12 PM PST by Hattie
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To: cajungirl

hell, the leftist media has the sheeple believing that iraq didn't even have a can of Raid in the entire country before the war - much less WMD and nukes.


330 posted on 11/02/2006 7:40:15 PM PST by oceanview
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To: tobyhill
Only a halfwitted beaureaucrat like Mohammed El Baradei and his sidekick, Hans Brix, could believe that keeping old Iraqi bomb documents off the web would prevent the Persians from concentrating all their efforts to build 60 year old technology. Here's proof:

The Bomb Assembly Building on Tinian: Navy Commander Frances Burch, senior officer in charge of bomb assembly, paints the "L-11" insignia on the "Little Boy" uranium bomb as Dr. Norman Ramsey, attached to Project Alberta, looks on.

My point is simple: this is sixty-year old techology. The notion that Iran could somehow have taken a shortcut by looking at Iraqi documents is foolish.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

331 posted on 11/02/2006 7:41:34 PM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: All

Yes...there is a slight aroma in the air...do I detect a whiff of a now-out-of-control sequence of unfolding events re the great NYT? The story must out, but lo the surprise awaiting beyond yon door. The NYT opens the door, the trap is sprung! Do you think....? ( I know, not great prose, but can you forgive me if I gloat a little?).


332 posted on 11/02/2006 7:41:42 PM PST by gb63
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To: steveo; letsgonova19087
Posting in all caps makes people run about, jump down and up... you know...

I know. It's very annoying and rude. Ususally folks who do this are about 200 years old.

the kids post in all lowercase and do not use any punctuation. thats because their mindset is focussed on instant messaging and often don't know the difference between their and there or theyre or to two or too

333 posted on 11/02/2006 7:41:52 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: bunnyfoofoo
...Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away...

Yeah, this really hurts...

the Dems!

334 posted on 11/02/2006 7:42:16 PM PST by LikeLight (RYMB)
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To: mware

I don't think the info that the IAEA is worried about had been published,,,,,,,,,,,,yet.


335 posted on 11/02/2006 7:43:05 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: bunnyfoofoo
Link in Drudge Statement

That link helps to explain why the government set up the program to release documents.

336 posted on 11/02/2006 7:43:22 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Global Warming Fears will do for the world what over population fears did for Europe.)
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To: mware

Great minds think alike ;-) I posted a link to this before I got to your post


337 posted on 11/02/2006 7:43:46 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: matt1234

Yes it did:
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NYT and IAEA slam Bush in pre-election meaneuver



Not for the first time, the IAEA is teaming up with the New York Times to embarrass Bush on the even of an election. I seem to recall that the International Atomic Energy Agency (a United Nations Agency known by the acronymn “IAEA”) had previously tried an election eve gambit (also with the cooperation of the NYT) . Specifically, the IAEA claimed that negligence on the part of the US led to the looting of tons of high explosive in Iraq. Supposedly, under US guard, these explosives had gone missing. The Pentagon was later able to deflate this “expose” by showing that the Hussein regime had already moved this stockpile of explosives before the invasion by coalition forces. Back then, the UN was accused of meddling in the US Presidential election; now it and its partner The New York Times is once again attempting to influence American elections by casting aspersions on the competency of a Republican Administration.

U.S. Web Archive Is Said to Reveal a Nuclear Guide

By WILLIAM J. BROAD

Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war. The Bush administration did so under pressure from Congressional Republicans who said they hoped to “leverage the Internet” to find new evidence of the prewar dangers posed by Saddam Hussein.

But in recent weeks, the site has posted some documents that weapons experts say are a danger themselves: detailed accounts of Iraq’s secret nuclear research before the 1991 Persian Gulf war. The documents, the experts say, constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb.

Last night, the government shut down the Web site after The New York Times asked about complaints from weapons experts and arms-control officials. A spokesman for the director of national intelligence said access to the site had been suspended “pending a review to ensure its content is appropriate for public viewing.”

Certainly there’s no love lost beween the Bush Administration and Mohammed El-Baradei, the feckless leader of the IAEA, that the Administration had hoped to replace after his term expired. The New York Times, true to form, has used its franchise for partisan purposes.

Ed Lasky 11 2 06





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338 posted on 11/02/2006 7:43:48 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: Cobra64

From Move America Forward site:

Major Announcement This Saturday:
7:00 AM Pacific // 10:00 AM Eastern

This Saturday, November 4, 2006 Move America Forward will be making a major announcement pertaining to America’s foreign policy. Because of security concerns we cannot divulge the facts involved before Saturday morning - 7:00 AM Pacific // 10:00 AM Eastern.

We will need your help in getting this major news story told throughout the nation, so please be sure to check in Saturday morning here at our website - www.MoveAmericaForward.org


339 posted on 11/02/2006 7:43:56 PM PST by Danette ("If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: letsgonova19087

Note to NYT: Nice try at hijacking, but no, we are not playing along this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5polbXf7-Q


340 posted on 11/02/2006 7:46:00 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: section9
I agree, I don't really believe it's Iran they are truly worried about because Iran has been developing a nuke way before the website but maybe someone like Hamas?
341 posted on 11/02/2006 7:46:51 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: cajungirl

I ask again. The NYT has the nerve to question others about releasing sensitive information?

This is almost a political gift to come right back to the wiretap disclosure!


342 posted on 11/02/2006 7:47:22 PM PST by mwl1
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To: oceanview
hell, the leftist media has the sheeple believing that iraq didn't even have a can of Raid in the entire country before the war - much less WMD and nukes.

No- just the opposite. The media has tried to get people to believe that the thousands of drums of precursor chemicals found throughout Iraq and in its military bases was just roach spray.

343 posted on 11/02/2006 7:48:22 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: mware

bttt


344 posted on 11/02/2006 7:48:34 PM PST by petercooper (Polls Schmolls.)
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To: cajungirl
"They hope we won't notice and comment,,,What plans? What bomb?

Here's hoping the fence sitters have some smarts, but that seems a little optimistic at this point.

And the Dem partisans will crow, despite all our mocking at the contradiction.

There's such little time left now, they make a big splash, and hope for no clear analysis.

345 posted on 11/02/2006 7:48:51 PM PST by dangerfield
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To: the Real fifi

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?ei=5094&en=1511d6b3da302d4f&hp=&ex=1162530000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print


346 posted on 11/02/2006 7:51:38 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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Check out this dig:

"Some intelligence officials feared that individual documents, translated and interpreted by amateurs, would be used out of context to second-guess the intelligence agencies’ view that Mr. Hussein did not have unconventional weapons or substantive ties to Al Qaeda. Reviewing the documents for release would add an unnecessary burden on busy intelligence analysts, they argued."


347 posted on 11/02/2006 7:52:52 PM PST by Starman417
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To: letsgonova19087

Just getting home. Did the NYTs print a story saying that Saddam was close to building a nuke in 2002?


348 posted on 11/02/2006 7:54:54 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: piasa
I think the sporkweasels just stuned you with their hugh beeberlike devices.

Yea ...I keep seeing neo-cons everywhere

349 posted on 11/02/2006 7:54:55 PM PST by woofie (If not this war then which one?)
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To: All
"The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?ei=5094&en=1511d6b3da302d4f&hp=&ex=1162530000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

Again, I personally read this kind of information years ago in a publication telling how to make a bomb. Big Deal. Let's see you make one now.
350 posted on 11/02/2006 7:55:04 PM PST by gb63
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