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Archaeologists Challenge Link Between Dead Sea Scrolls and Ancient Sect
NY Times ^ | August 15, 2006 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Posted on 08/15/2006 5:09:35 AM PDT by Pharmboy


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The Dead Sea Scrolls were found in caves near the Qumran ruins.

New archaeological evidence is raising more questions about the conventional interpretation linking the desolate ruins of an ancient settlement known as Qumran with the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were found in nearby caves in one of the sensational discoveries of the last century.

After early excavations at the site, on a promontory above the western shore of the Dead Sea, scholars concluded that members of a strict Jewish sect, the Essenes, had lived there in a monastery and presumably wrote the scrolls in the first centuries B.C. and A.D.

Many of the texts describe religious practices and doctrine in ancient Israel.

But two Israeli archaeologists who have excavated the site on and off for more than 10 years now assert that Qumran had nothing to do with the Essenes or a monastery or the scrolls. It had been a pottery factory.

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Dr. Magen and Dr. Peleg said that, indeed, the elaborate water system at Qumran appeared to be designed to bring the clay-laced water into the site for the purposes of the pottery industry. No other site in the region has been found to have such a water system.

By the time the Romans destroyed Qumran in A.D. 68 in the Jewish revolt, the archaeologists concluded, the settlement had been a center of the pottery industry for at least a century. Before that, the site apparently was an outpost in a chain of fortresses along the Israelites’ eastern frontier.

“The association between Qumran, the caves and the scrolls is, thus, a hypothesis lacking any factual archaeological basis,” Dr. Magen said in an article in the current issue of Biblical Archaeology Review.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; deadseascrolls; epigraphyandlanguage; essenes; godsgravesglyphs; israel; pottery; qumran; religion
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1 posted on 08/15/2006 5:09:37 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; aculeus

Dusty site ping...


2 posted on 08/15/2006 5:10:23 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy

Fascinating stuff. Bump for later reading.


3 posted on 08/15/2006 5:11:05 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Pharmboy
It had been a pottery factory

Maybe that's why they hid them there. The Romans would not bother looting/rummaging through 18,000 pottery jars...

4 posted on 08/15/2006 5:16:39 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Pharmboy

There are theories that as Jesus traveled and honed his message for the world, he lived briefly with the Essenes. Some of their writings discuss "the enlightened one."


5 posted on 08/15/2006 5:17:18 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Pharmboy

bump for later


6 posted on 08/15/2006 5:21:34 AM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
There are theories that as Jesus traveled and honed his message for the world, he lived briefly with the Essenes. Some of their writings discuss "the enlightened one."

The Essenes were apostate Jews.

7 posted on 08/15/2006 5:21:56 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"...honed his message..."

Yeah, right.


8 posted on 08/15/2006 5:23:17 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: AmericaUnited

Excellent thought...makes sense.


9 posted on 08/15/2006 5:23:32 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy
"Sparticus, it's just a bunch of heavy worthless pots... let's go."


10 posted on 08/15/2006 5:28:04 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Pharmboy

Monks made distilled spirits to support their monestary.

How about Essenes making pottery to support their enclave?

Study and Industry are not mutually exclusive.


11 posted on 08/15/2006 5:34:02 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Keep watch for the Mahdi...... he's coming on 22 August!!)
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...that Qumran had nothing to do with the Essenes or a monastery or the scrolls. It had been a pottery factory.

A pottery factory? There? Way up on a mesa (transportation cost + related breakage) and so far from its customer base down in the villages and cities...and its competitors for said customers??

12 posted on 08/15/2006 5:48:37 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: fortheDeclaration
The Jews themselves were apostate, as evidenced by John the Baptist and Jesus preaching. Matt 21:24 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you by what authority I do these things. 25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him? 26 But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet. 27 And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.

The Jews had lost authority and sound doctrine.
13 posted on 08/15/2006 5:54:06 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: bert

Agreed. That may also explain why Jesus referred to pottery several times in his teaching. Referring to his people as clay that is formed by the potters hands and as vessels to be used as God wills.


14 posted on 08/15/2006 5:54:35 AM PDT by Montana4Jesus
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To: Pharmboy

I will read this later.


15 posted on 08/15/2006 5:55:29 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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The Essenes also followed very strict ritual purifying practices (including frequent bathing), so I am not surprised at all to find that there was a great system of water supply.


16 posted on 08/15/2006 6:00:45 AM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: yankeedame
I think you have some good points as far as customers. This is not a resort area, unless you go to Death Valley on vacation.
I don't agree that Qumran is on a mesa though, it didn't seem like it was much higher than the road that ran along the Dead Sea.
17 posted on 08/15/2006 6:01:17 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Pharmboy

Just when you think you've got some ancient history down pat, here come some smarty pants archeolgists with another--and maybe better--theory.


18 posted on 08/15/2006 6:02:40 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

This is how academic careers are made...


19 posted on 08/15/2006 6:08:32 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: AmericaUnited

Yeah, and Vito Corleone ran an olive oil import store in Little Italy.


20 posted on 08/15/2006 6:09:44 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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