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Hawkish Gloom
NRO ^ | August 08, 2006, 5:31 a.m. | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 08/09/2006 10:12:16 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0

Call me a gloomy hawk. It’s not just that I’m a hawk who’s disappointed with the course of fighting in the Middle East. My concern is that our underlying foreign-policy dilemma calls for both hawkishness and gloom — and will for some time. The two worst-case scenarios are world-war abroad and nuclear terror at home. I fear we’re on a slow-motion track to both.

No, I don’t think our venture in Iraq has gotten us into this mess. I think this mess has gotten us into Iraq. And the mess will not go away, whatever we do. Our Islamist enemy has proven himself implacable — unwilling to relent in the face of either dovish or hawkish policies. That means we’re facing years — maybe decades — of inconclusive, on/off (mostly on) hot war, unless and until a nuclear terror strike, a major case of nuclear blackmail, or a nuclear clash among Middle Eastern states ushers in a radical new phase.

Castro

Let’s take a moment to think about Castro. Castro is the master and pioneer of ornery third-world defiance. We need to appreciate the immensity of Castro’s achievement in preserving Cuba’s Communist dictatorship for 17 years after the collapse of his chief patron, the Soviet Union. It’s remarkable that, absent any great-power protection, and even after becoming, without Soviet subsidies, a permanent economic basket-case, Castro’s regime has not collapsed.

Let that be a lesson to those who wait for the collapse of regimes in Iran, North Korea, or Palestine because of long-term economic failure and/or economic sanctions. Yes, popular uprisings happen (as in Iran against the Shah). Yet it’s also clear that a posture of anti-Western defiance, combined with nationalism, ideology, and dictatorial rule is perfectly capable of sustaining a miserable, poverty-stricken, failed system far, far beyond the point that Westerners would consider tolerable or believable.

If you are willing to kill yourself — if you are willing even to impoverish, immiserate, and let die much of your country, you can accomplish a great deal. Hezbollah’s gains in its war with Israel stem from its ability to define success as mere survival, even as the country around it is destroyed. This is no mere clever public-relations spin, but the reflection of a profound reality: the growing independence of terrorist organizations from states, and the willingness of Islamist terrorists to sacrifice all in pursuit of fundamentally non-material goals. With military success (accurately) framed as the near-complete destruction of terrorist forces, decisive military victory is virtually defined out of existence.

Democracy?

This is why the United States has turned to democratization. The stick of military force combined with the carrot of democracy was supposed to have provided a way out. Unfortunately, democratization of fundamentally illiberal societies cannot happen quickly. Real democratization requires a great deal of time and deep, painful, expensive underlying cultural change, almost impossible to bring about without an effectively permanent military occupation.

Even a long-term military occupation cannot promote democratization in the absence of social peace. The Iraqi resistance’s greatest victory came with the very start of their campaign. By creating sufficient insecurity to bar Western civilians from Iraq, the real key to democratic change was blocked from the start. If advising an Iraqi bureaucrat, working with an Iraqi entrepreneur, or teaching at an Iraqi college had become career-making occupations for an ambitious generation of young American civilians, we might have had a chance to build genuine democracy in Iraq. Once the rebellion made that sort of cultural exchange impossible, the democratization project was cut off before it could begin.

I’ve made these points about the problems of democratization since before the invasion of Iraq (See my “After the War” and “Democratic Imperialism.”) In those pieces, I even “predicted” the sort of trouble we’re seeing now. Yet, despite that gloom, I was, and remain, a hawk. I am hawk because I believe that the danger of nuclear terror and nuclear blackmail remain real, and because I am convinced that negotiations from weakness, grand bargains, and unilateral retreats are powerless to defuse these threats. In short, I am a gloomy hawk because I believe that neither hawks nor doves have any viable near-term solutions to the problem we now face.

Technology

Globalization, economic advance, and technology are at the root of our dilemma. It is remarkable that 9/11 meant more civilian casualties from a foreign foe than this country had ever experienced at a blow. Without the movement of Middle Easterners to Europe (to learn our languages, take our classes, etc.), without our modern mastery of building technology and air travel, 9/11 could not have happened. Recall that the plan of the first, failed blast in 1993 was to topple one World Trade Center tower into the other, bringing both down on surrounding buildings for a possible total of 200,000 dead. This was the approximate combined total of dead at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The 1993 terrorists were consciously focused on that precedent, wanting to inflict nuclear-level damage on the United States.

The destruction of the World Trade Center raised the possibility that a rogue state might supply terrorists with a nuclear bomb, or enough material to make such a bomb. Already, there was an alliance between a state (Afghanistan) and a terrorist organization. But in the war between Israel and Hezbollah, we’ve seen a further step toward the feared pattern. Hezbollah rockets have already inflicted far more damage and disruption on Israeli civilians than attacks in any previous Middle Eastern war. That is because military technology is getting ever cheaper, more advanced, and more available, and because of a military alliance between a supplying state (Iran) and a terrorist organization.

So we are already seeing a terrorist-executed proxy war against the West using advanced technology supplied by a rogue state. It only remains for a nuclear device to replace the cheap rockets. Iran is working on that. This is why Europe, led by France, is moving into the American corner. The internal Islamist terror Europe had hoped to avoid by distancing itself from the United States is happening anyway. And Europe fears that a terrorist-supplied Iranian bomb, a nuclear-armed Iranian missile, or an Iranian attempt to corner the world’s oil supply through nuclear blackmail, pose direct threats to the continent itself.

Iraq

Our attack on Saddam was the easiest way to create a credible threat of force against Iran and North Korea, while also cutting out Saddam’s own capacity to build or buy (from Korea and/or the A. Q. Kahn network) his own nuclear weapons. For this reason, it needed doing. Given the immense dangers faced by the West, and compared to our sacrifices in World War II and Korea, 3,000 casualties is not an excessive cost (tragic as these losses are). Yet our domestic divisions, and our inability to pacify Iraq have largely (although not, I believe, entirely) canceled out the deterrent message of the invasion.

Without a credible threat of force (and maybe even with a credible threat), there is simply no way that negotiations, “grand bargains,” or unilateral withdrawals will accomplish anything. Israel had about as credible a threat as anyone could. Given its foes’ rejection of a reasonable American-brokered deal, Israel tried unilateral withdrawal instead. Now look what’s happened. The depth of the Moslem world’s failure to adjust to modernity, the profundity of its need for scapegoats, the seeming boundlessness of its willingness to accept the death and destruction of its own in exchange for the “honor” of “revenge,” are difficult for Americans to acknowledge. Read “A Middle Way” (by David Warren in the Ottawa Citizen) and you will see that the Western public is systematically sheltered from the sort of news that turns people into gloomy hawks.

Wishful Thinking

At Newsday, typically dovish Middle East Studies professor Fawaz Gerges says, “Hezbollah has risen to fill a social need.” I find Gerges’s vision of a solution in the Middle East utterly naive. He pretends that Hezbollah is not standing as a proxy for Iran, and acts as though a little bit of forceful negotiating can prod Hezbollah into disarming, and Israel and its Arab foes into a comprehensive settlement. But Israel has already made the sort of gestures that ought to have created momentum for peace. Instead, it’s gotten more attacks, and the persistent calls for its destruction so chillingly described by David Warren.

On one critical point, however, Gerges is right. If liberals are lost in wishful thinking about the prospects of negotiated settlements and nuclear containment, conservatives are naive about the possibility of ending terror by a decisive military blow. Gerges is right that Hezbollah is not some finite terror force, but the expression of the will and aspirations of a massive portion of the Lebanese people. As such, it is unlikely to be bombed out of existence.

Gerges makes the doves’ favorite point: bombing and war only breed more terrorists. True enough, but only because the underlying cultural dilemma of Muslim modernity has created a need for scapegoats. War ought to produce the realization that peaceful compromise is the way out. Instead it produces the opposite. Gestures for peace fare no better. Withdraw or attack, the results are the same: more hatred, more terror, more war. Compromise and settlement have been ruled out from the start by a pervasive ideology, an ideology that is a product of the underlying inability to reconcile Islam with modernity.

New Israel

This means that the entire Western world now stands in a position roughly analogous to that of Israel: locked in an essentially permanent struggle with a foe it is impossible either to placate, or to entirely destroy — a foe who demands our own destruction, and whose problems are so deep they would not be solved even by victory.

We can leave Iraq, as the Israelis left Lebanon. But we’ll likely be back, there or somewhere else, before long. Some say our army should wait among the Kurds, striking selectively in the rest of Iraq, only when al Qaeda returns. That’s a plan. Yet its likely to end up where Israel is in Lebanon, especially if al Qaeda starts kidnapping American soldiers with cross-border raids into the “Kurdish entity.”

Meanwhile, short of a preemptive war, Iran is bound to get the bomb. No grand bargain or set of economic sanctions can deter it — especially now that Iran is convinced of its success in creating havoc for the West, and in consolidating popular support through its proxy attacks on Western interests. As Ian Bremmer reports in “What the Israeli-Hezbollah War Means for Iran,”

Iran is convinced it’s winning, while America and Europe are increasingly convinced that a nuclear-armed Iran would be an intolerable danger to their interests. “Imagine...how much more dangerous the war in Lebanon would be if Iran had a nuclear weapon.”

Collision Course

The West is on a collision course with Iran. There will either be a preemptive war against Iran’s nuclear program, or an endless series of hot-and-cold war crises following Iran’s acquisition of a bomb. And an Iranian bomb means further nuclear proliferation to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, as a balancing move by the big Sunni states. With all those Islamic bombs floating around, what are the chances the U.S. will avoid a nuclear terrorist strike over the long-term?

You don’t believe that dovishness and negotiations will fail? Just wait till President Hillary tries to buy off the Iranians with a “grand bargain.” Just wait till a nuclear Iran is unleashed to make further mischief. A seemingly futile and endless occupation of Lebanon once split Israel down the middle, breeding an entire generation of Israeli doves. Now Israel is a united nation of gloomy hawks, transformed by the repeated failure of every gesture of peace, and by the reality of their implacable foe. (See “Praying for Hummus, Getting Hamas.”) I’m betting that someday we’ll all be gloomy hawks, too. As for me, I’m already there.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
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Yikes....

Where is the good ol Reagan optimism when you need it?

1 posted on 08/09/2006 10:12:17 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0
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To: isaiah55version11_0

"The horror....the horror!"

2 posted on 08/09/2006 10:15:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: isaiah55version11_0

Good gosh, buck up man. The nation has faced and overcome tougher times and adversaries than these and prevailed.


3 posted on 08/09/2006 10:17:05 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: isaiah55version11_0

Good grief. Doom and gloom. He must spend too much time reading the NY Times.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 10:17:52 AM PDT by pissant
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To: isaiah55version11_0
Yet our domestic divisions, and our inability to pacify Iraq have largely (although not, I believe, entirely) canceled out the deterrent message of the invasion.

A very blunt and honest analysis. It seems correct to conclude that the momentum and resolve of the US in the war on terror has waned since we toppled Saddam. Truth be told, I think Bush has gone limp on the entire effort.

5 posted on 08/09/2006 10:18:43 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: isaiah55version11_0
While an optimist, Reagan was also a realist.

He knoew the only way to defeat International Communism was through power. However, THAT foe was relatively reasonable and held a worldview of generally peaceful coexistence. Mostly the Russians just wanted what we all want, peace and freedom to enjoy life and family.

Our new enemy wants nothing less than our subservience or our death.

6 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:02 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: pissant

Gloom, despair and agony on me
Deep, dark depression
Excessive misery
If it weren't for bad luck
I'd have no luck at all
Gloom, despair and agony on me


7 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Couple of months back, a poll was released showing that republicans were more likely to be afraid of terrorism and I thought that was utter nonsense. Now, if Kerry had won in 2004, then you better believe I'd be afraid, but with the right(no pun, I swear) guys in office I believe there is nothing to fear. Looks like the pollsters must have gotten hold of a couple of sissies like this guy.


8 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:44 AM PDT by NYCynic
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To: dfwgator

I think I'm gonna kill myself
Try a little suicide
Stick around for a couple of days
What a tragedy if I died


9 posted on 08/09/2006 10:24:34 AM PDT by pissant
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To: isaiah55version11_0
We're all gonna die!!!!

10 posted on 08/09/2006 10:25:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: pissant

That sounds like every song Morrissey ever sang.


11 posted on 08/09/2006 10:25:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: isaiah55version11_0
More hysteric whining and hand wringing for the Know Nothings. Would be nice if they are going to waste our time they at LEAST have a grasp of reality.

Counter Terrorism is NOT Conventional Military Operations. To try and force the 1st into the form of the 2nd is idiotic. "Gloomy Hawk" Panic stricken Chicken Sh%^ would be more accurate
12 posted on 08/09/2006 10:27:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: isaiah55version11_0
Yikes indeed. How about this quote from NRO's The Corner by everyone's favorite Squidward, I mean pessimist, John Derbyshire (posted 8/9/06):

Stanley Kurtz ROCKS. If you didn't read his "Hawkish Gloom" piece on yesterday's NRO (from which all the above quotes are taken), go read it now. Then, read it again. Read the links too.

Stanley's notion of the Israelization of the West — the slow change of opinion here from deep dove-hawk, lib-con differences to a glum, grim, pessimistic consensus, is spot on.

I only wonder — as of course I would — if Stanley is gloomy enough. There is a nightmare here, lurking just out of sight behind all the thoughts and articles of the gloomy-cons. The nightmare is so appalling to any civilized person I cannot bring myself to mention it. I'll just call it the g-word. Us or them. Please may it not come to that. I need a cup of coffee.

It's coming up on five years since 9/11: Iran, Syria, and North Korea are still out there. Lots of people want to see the U.S. fail. It could be a long, hard war for years to come.

13 posted on 08/09/2006 10:28:00 AM PDT by Tancred
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To: isaiah55version11_0
Where is the good ol Reagan optimism when you need it?

Reagan 'optimism' decided to get out of Lebanon.

The best thing to be said about Lebanon since is that it hasn't been our troops in the middle of that mess, let's keep it that way.

14 posted on 08/09/2006 10:28:07 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: My2Cents

A very absurd hysteric analysis by a panic striken chicken know nothing.


15 posted on 08/09/2006 10:29:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: isaiah55version11_0
"As such, it is unlikely to be bombed out of existence."

Wrong.

One simply has to bomb until one has killed a massive portion of the Lebanese people. They are very hard headed, but if they are dead, they will no longer be a problem for us or Israel. If our positions were reversed, they would kill all of us in a heartbeat, therefore, we need to be at least as ruthless as they are to defeat them.
16 posted on 08/09/2006 10:30:37 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: My2Cents
Nice you have feelings. Such a pity that feelings are not facts.

Did any of the Always Whining EVEN for a second even bother to consider that MOST of the people fighting and dying ON OUR SIDE in the War are Muslims? These hysteric Patton wannabees would make all those current allies enemies. That would be an utterly stupid self defeating strategy

17 posted on 08/09/2006 10:31:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: Mariner

When you hear their words that they will not give up the right until the world turns to Islam, you know it is not going to be easy.


18 posted on 08/09/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by mel
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To: isaiah55version11_0
"The West is on a collision course with Iran."

The West, or at least the non-decadent part of it, the USA, is on a collision course with militant Islam. If we do not wipe them out, they will enslave us.
19 posted on 08/09/2006 10:35:42 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: MNJohnnie
Did any of the Always Whining EVEN for a second even bother to consider that MOST of the people fighting and dying ON OUR SIDE in the War are Muslims?

Yes, but are we killing them faster than they can replace themselves. How many children do you have or are planning to have?

20 posted on 08/09/2006 10:37:08 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0 (For His Glory)
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