Posted on 10/18/2005 12:50:27 PM PDT by laney
Part of my family still lives in Roswell, and so I felt obligated to check out the museum, and yes, they are pretty even handed (altho it's pretty hokey). My Mom lived in Roswell when the crash supposedly happened, and she said she had never heard a thing about it until the 70s or 80s (whenever it became a *thing*).
And Roswell is a nice little town, altho it seems the crime rate is climbing.
susie
Please abduct me!
Good question.
Maybe the IRS is after them?
Oh no, I have leaving cookies and milk out in hope of alien sex, well anykind really.
We all have a raelian moment during the course of a day..:)
Around the same time, Harvard Medical School started investigating the research methods employed by Pulitzer Prize-winning psychiatrist John Mack, who used hypnosis to retrieve memories from people who claimed to be alien abductees. (The school decided not to censure Mack, who was struck and killed by a drunk driver in London last year.)
IIRC, Mack never really took a position on the abductions, but instead reported his findings as objectively as possible. On the other hand, Susan Clancy seems to be playing the role of debunker, i.e. she is approaching the issue with a preconceived point of view.
Kongka La is the low ridge pass in the Himalayas (the blue oval in the map). It is in the disputed India-China border area in Ladakh. In the map the red zone is the disputed area still under Chinese control in the Aksai Chin area. The Chinese held northeastern part is known as Aksai Chin and Indian South West is known as Ladakh. This is the area where Indian and Chinese armies fought major war in 1962. The area is one of the least accessed area in the world and by agreement the two countries do not patrol this part of the border. According to many tourists, Buddhist monks and the local people of Ladakh, the Indian Army and the Chinese Military maintain the line of control. But there is something much more serious happening in this area.
According to the few local people on the Indian and Chinese sides, this is where the UFOs are seen coming out of the ground, According to many, the UFO underground bases are in this region and both the Indian and Chinese Government know this very well..
Recently, some Hindu pilgrims on their way to Mount Kailash from the Western pass, came across strange lights in the sky. The local guides while in the Chinese territory told them that this was nothing new and is a normal phenomenon from Kongka Pass area - the tensed border region between India and China. This strange lighted triangular silent crafts show up from underground and moves almost vertically up. Some of the adventurous pilgrims wanted to look into the site. They were first turned back by the Chinese guard posts as they were refused entry from the Chinese side. When they tried to approach the site from Indian side, the Indian border patrol also turned them down in spite of their permit to travel between the two countries.
The pilgrims at that stage started quizzing the Indian border security personnel. The security personnel told them that they are ordered not to allow any one near the area of interest and it is true that strange objects come out from under the ground with amplified and modulated lights. Indias Special Operations Forces and the intelligence agencies are in charge of that area.
The locals start laughing in that area when they are asked about these UFO sightings. They get surprised why the Governments are so eager to hide these obvious facts. According to them the extra-terrestrial presence is well known and is in deep into the ground. They believe neither the Indian or Chinese Governments do not want to expose the fact for some reason. When they bring up this matter to local Governments, they are told to keep quiet and forget the same. This is the region where the Euresian plate and the Indian plate have created convergent plate boundaries. Convergent plate boundaries are formed where one plate dives under another. Consequently, this is one of the very few areas in the world where the depth of the earth's crust twice as thick as in other places. The opposite is found in hot spots like Yellow Stone National Park in America where the earths crust in thin.
The double thick earth-crust allows the creation of underground bases very deep into the tectonic plates.
Kongka La has beautiful rocks and granites. For some strange reasons neither the Chinese nor the Indian authorities ever excavate, dig or mine in this area. The area is pristine and untouched.
Recently, both India and China have moved forward to solve all border disputes and start the Sino-Indian relations all over again. The Aksai Chin area is still disputed. But interesting while negotiations both the Governments are indifferent on this area. India and China as shown in the accompanying maps have huge border areas along the Himalayas and they are negotiating on all these regions. Though India claims that Aksai Chin is part of India, the common belief in the Government is that it is not a show stopper. On the other hand, Chinese after winning Aksai Chin from India in 1962 war, built a strategic military highway. Now they are using an alternate highway not to bother with the area in Kongka La.
Recently in the local school, young children of the area entered into a drawing contest. More than half of the drawings had to do with strange objects in the sky and some coming out of the mountains. Many of them even know what and when to look for.
Many UFO researchers believe that there are hidden UFO bases under the ocean and deep under the ground. Kongka La is experiencing some strange phenomenon and suspicious objects coming out of the inaccessible huge mountains (Himalayas) and both the Governments refuse to come out and say what these are.
The other alternative is that it is an underground strategic Air Force base of some one. Then why will either country allow the base on the official no mans land in the highly sensitive disputed border area? Why is this region continuously reporting UFO sightings from various kinds of people?
Africa is a land where magic is real. You would be amazed at the things that happen every day there.
I believe I was abducted by aliens when I entered the 9th grade. My mother told me not to worry - I was in a public school. I haven't changed my mind.
Perfect!
I had the opportunity to drive across the continent and see the sights in 2003. I stayed there for a couple of days- I thought about staying there- but didn't expect that there'd be a lot of IT work there for me to do.
I'm sorry to hear about the crime. It seemed like one of those places where locking the doors is optional.
Mack's work gave Clancy an idea: Wouldn't it be easier to test her theories if she could be certain that her subjects' memories were not real? As Clancy and McNally interviewed the abductees, they started to find some common threads. Many of them, for instance, described the terrifying experience of waking up and being unable to move, certain that an intruder was lurking in their room.
To the Harvard psychologists, it was obvious that their subjects had suffered an episode of sleep paralysis -- a state of limbo between sleep and being awake, sometimes punctuated by hallucinations.
Now there's some great science. Things that lack scientific proof are, by default, proven to be false. Therefore, she immediately and without effort has just proven that nothing of what these wackos tell her actually happened.
>>Wouldn't it be easier to test her theories if she could be certain that her subjects' memories were not real?<<
After such an easy dispatch, she stampedes on to her pet pedophile and sleep paralysis theories, with the rock-solid axiom that phenomena that share certain aspects with other phenomena ARE those phenomena - HEY - science is fun!! With these axiomatic hatchets in hand, she slashes through all the annoying wack job stories of UFO's, greys and abductions.
She could be the next Carl Sagan - he of the great principle of "If we don't know how to get there - obviously they wouldn't know how to get here". Hopefully, she will use the same devastating logic and razor-sharp scientific method to decimate all the nutcases that talk about telepathy, apparitions and religious visions.
Most of them are probably lefties. I'm usually up late at night and sometimes listen to George Noory. These UFO abductees often spout off environmentalist or anti-war stuff. You know, the aliens have come here to warn us that rampant capitalism is raping the environment and the U.S. military is threatening the whole universe. Sometimes they also attack traditional morality. The family unit "enslaves" people and we need to be practice "free love" like they do back on the planet Ogalandoo, or whatever.
In fact, I was listening to Noory's show the night he reported that UFO enthusiast John Mack had been killed in London. One of Mack's associates came on to eulogize him and he went on and on about how strongly Mack opposed George Bush.
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