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Ebonics suggested for district
San Bernardino County Sun ^ | 17 July 2005 | Irma Lemus

Posted on 07/18/2005 10:25:14 AM PDT by 45Auto

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To: sfimom

Not bad.


242 posted on 07/18/2005 12:09:04 PM PDT by CollegeRepublicanNU (All Your <insert object here> belong to us)
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To: martin_fierro

Where to do you find that stuff? Fierro - you are about the most resource person on the web! LOL!


243 posted on 07/18/2005 12:11:28 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: MissEdie; mhking

Black students do not need this crap to learn and achieve. They need the same thing other students do, parents who emphasize the importance of school, administrators who will not tolerate discipline problems, and good teachers who care about the students and what they do. Don't tell me black students can't achieve just because their parents are poor either, I've seen it myself in the public school I teach in.
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Also, keep in mind that if they are too poor to move, the parents of these children don't have a choice where their kids go to school. How many of them would actually choose to send their kid to a school that teaches ebonics?

Thats why Charter Schools legislation is so important to be enacted and, IMO, should be the number 1 priority of african american political leaders:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm

I'd bet my last nickel that those proposing this ebonics stuff don't support charter legislation.


244 posted on 07/18/2005 12:16:42 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm)
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To: johnb838
You hear a lot of talk about making English the official language of the U.S. Well, we all know that's not going to happen. But I have a question. How long do you think it's going to be before it is a requirement to speak Spanish?

I don't know, but take a look at the top stories on the Republican National Committee's official website's News page:

July 18, 2005 :
RNC Alcanza Otro Récord de Recaudación de Fondos en un Año en que No Hay Elecciones Presidenciales

July 18, 2005 :
RNC Sets Another Fundraising Record For A Non-Presidential Election Year

July 14, 2005 :
Statement By RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman On The Passing Of Arthur A. Fletcher

July 14, 2005 :
Declaraciones por el Presidente del RNC Ken Mehlman sobre el Fallecimiento de Arthur A. Fletcher

I checked the DNC's site, and they go whole hog: they have a complete, separate Spanish version of their website (as far as I can see).

245 posted on 07/18/2005 12:18:41 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: 45Auto
Yeah, get those under-achieving kids through school and into the work force where they can really fail!

Dumb Ba$tard$!

246 posted on 07/18/2005 12:20:31 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: LibertyThug
You sound more surprised than you should.

This is my favorite line:

"I'm afraid that now that we have this the Hispanic community, our largest population, will say, 'We want something for us.' Next we'll have the Asian community and the Jewish community (asking for their own programs). When will it end?'

Have I missed the noisy lobby of Jewish people demanding that Yiddish be taught in elementary schools?

I also find that the Asian community assimilates quite nicely by comparison. Something tells me they won't follow suit here, they're probably smart enough to see the positive correlation b/w assimilation and success in this country. They've done remarkably well without affirmative action handouts...who'da thunk it possible?
247 posted on 07/18/2005 12:22:06 PM PDT by Akira (Experience is a hard teacher, but fools will have no other.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Thanks very much, but naaaaah.


248 posted on 07/18/2005 12:22:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 45Auto
Anyone who pushes this nonsense should be taken by the hand and walked off a cliff. Maybe the fall will knock some sense into them.

A cry in the black education wilderness

249 posted on 07/18/2005 12:23:48 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MissEdie

You are quite right. All students can learn. Perhaps they learn at different rates, but everyone can become a productive citizen - if they are taught by teachers who care AND who understand how people become "educated". That said, not everyone has the ability to become a brain surgeon. The world needs professionals in both blue and white collar jobs. I've worked in both.


250 posted on 07/18/2005 12:25:15 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto

This says black kids cannot achieve in the real world, so we have to give them pap, a language no one except drug dealers and pimps use on a daily basis. This is a racist mentality condemning kids to poverty or jail.


251 posted on 07/18/2005 12:25:26 PM PDT by hershey
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ping


252 posted on 07/18/2005 12:26:16 PM PDT by Honcho
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To: MarkL
pretty much guarantees that the next few generations of black students will keep these moron sociologists employed and making stupid suggestions for years to come

These morons keep lowering the bar so that every student learns less. Everyone suffers in the end.

253 posted on 07/18/2005 12:28:14 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 1L

>> And my cat is much more intelligent. <<

LOL!!

A friend gave me a shirt yesterday that has 'My Dog is Smarter Than Your Honor Student' on it.


254 posted on 07/18/2005 12:29:41 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Islam is a death cult. Mohammad was an insane, war mongering, ignorant pedophile!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
At least we won't be competing with these folks for jobs.

I know a Hispanic just got elected mayor of Los Angelos. Are the Hispanics in charge of San Bernadino too? Could this be some sick racist strategy to keep the blacks at the bottom of the economic heap? /removes tinfoil hat

255 posted on 07/18/2005 12:29:45 PM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Larry Lucido
SANKOFAI?? Geez, they could have at least come up with a real acronym.

Actually the word "sankofa" is a Swahili word meaning essentially "go back and get it."

Don't get me started on this mess...

256 posted on 07/18/2005 12:30:37 PM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: 45Auto

No half measures. All blacks must be taught using Ebonics, no exceptions.


257 posted on 07/18/2005 12:31:14 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: 45Auto

I'd like to see a DU thread on this. Guarantee they would be singing its praises and that only evil conservatives could be against this because they want to keep blacks stupid and poor.


258 posted on 07/18/2005 12:35:54 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: 45Auto

So tell me, how is this going to help those kids succeed in life?


259 posted on 07/18/2005 12:36:27 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: 45Auto

I say, "right on" and the teachers should be required to wear long, baggy shorts with the waist down to their privates. And , oh yeah, they should sport basebal caps on backwards or ski caps even in summer. Female teachers should be referred to as "ho's" and males as "pimps". And no "White" subjects like Math or English or History. Yeah, that's the ticket.


260 posted on 07/18/2005 12:36:45 PM PDT by Inwoodian
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