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12,000-Year-Old Bones Found in Kansas
AP (via Yahoo) ^ | Feb 15, 2002

Posted on 02/15/2005 4:44:02 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

GOODLAND, Kan. - Scientists say mammoth and camel bones unearthed in northwest Kansas that date back 12,200 years could be part of "one of the most important archaeological sites in North America."

The bones, found last June in Sherman County near the Colorado border, were alongside a piece of stone that archaeologists say was the kind used in tools that humans once used to butcher animals.

Archaeological geologist Rolfe Mandel of the Kansas Geological Survey said carbon-14 dating completed last week shows the bones are between 12,200 and 12,300 years old, which could mean humans lived on the Great Plains 1,300 years earlier than previously thought.

Mandel said if excavations this summer verify the finding of the stone tool, it would make the archaeological site among the oldest in the New World.

"It would be one of the most important sites in North America," he said.

Researchers initially found mammoth bone and stone-tool flint next to each other in soil dating back 11,000 years at the site. Below that, they found mammoth and camel bone that were fractured in a way that they say could only have been caused by people who shattered bone with stone to either make flaked bone tools or get to the marrow.

"Some scientists won't be convinced that the older bones got here because of human hunters," said Mandel, who is leading the team that found the bones. "I'm not convinced, either. But I'm 75 percent convinced. There are few other ways the bones could be broken naturally the way they're broken."

Ancient and more modern stone-age hunters sharpened their butchering tools alongside the bodies of the animals they killed, flaking flint off dulled stone-knife blades and leaving traces of their sharpening work beside the bones.

Mandel said he's absolutely positive about the layer of 11,000-year-old bones and stone artifacts, which he said make the Sherman County dig the oldest site of verified human occupation and activity in Kansas, and among the oldest in North America.

The dig began after a landowner in the area found a mammoth tooth in 1976 and contacted the Denver Museum of Nature & Science. In the 1980s, a paleontologist who found animal bones there noted that the fracture patters on the bones were unusual.

Based on mammoth-kill sites in western North America, scientists previously dated the earliest confirmed evidence of humans on the Great Plains at 11,000 to 11,500 years ago. Mandel said the new evidence will add to the debate over when humans inhabited the Western Hemisphere.

Conventional wisdom has been that people came across the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago. But Mandel said the northwest Kansas dig means "we're rethinking not only when people arrived, but where they came from."

Mandel said material at the site indicates a small family of nomads likely used it as a campsite. Those people would have drifted across the land, following herds of animals, he said.

"It would have been a very rough lifestyle," Mandel said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: archaeology; bobdole; clovis; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; kansas; preclovis; precolumbian
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1 posted on 02/15/2005 4:44:03 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

"small family of nomads likely used it as a campsite"

Think they were Indians? If not, look out for trouble.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 4:47:52 PM PST by tbird5
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To: Mr. Mojo

Where was Ted Kennedy at the time and was he driving?


3 posted on 02/15/2005 4:47:56 PM PST by mnehring (cBS- Fourth Column, Fifth Estate, Disinformers)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Mel Brooks go home.


4 posted on 02/15/2005 4:48:20 PM PST by dts32041 (When did the Democratic party stop being the political arm of the KKK?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Wow! They swung even then!

5 posted on 02/15/2005 4:49:41 PM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Mr. Mojo

2,000 years, 12,000 years; what's the diff...


6 posted on 02/15/2005 4:51:01 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Am I misreading the article, or is the title wrong?


7 posted on 02/15/2005 4:51:52 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: mnehrling

Teddy hit Bob Dole once upon a time.......ok, sorry Bob, I love ya......


8 posted on 02/15/2005 4:52:24 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Mr. Mojo

"Conventional wisdom has been that people came across the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago."

Let's think outside the box: Maybe people migrated "from" the Americas over the Bering Strait, going "to" Asia. Why is it always assumed that people came from Asia to the Americas?


9 posted on 02/15/2005 4:52:39 PM PST by foofoopowder
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To: Mr. Mojo
Conventional wisdom has been that people came across the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago. But Mandel said the northwest Kansas dig means "we're rethinking not only when people arrived, but where they came from."

One if by land and two if by sea?

10 posted on 02/15/2005 4:54:59 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To: Mr. Mojo

The cheech and chong article was posted yesterday...besides , I doun't think even tommy would do a 12,000 year old bone, after all, a man's got to have some boundaries.


11 posted on 02/15/2005 4:55:29 PM PST by pipecorp (I am, therefore, I think...so, what happens when I'm done thinking ?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I was wondering why I hadn't heard from my mother in law in a while.


12 posted on 02/15/2005 4:56:01 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


13 posted on 02/15/2005 4:57:02 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


14 posted on 02/15/2005 4:57:17 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Back to my same old dreary song... It would have been easier for early man to have walked (hunting and fishing) across the Atlantic ice sheet from "Europe" to North America than from "Russia" across "beringa" to north America. And it would have been about 5-6KY earlier.

The fact that the Atlantic was 300 miles narrower, and the seas 300' lower, seems to escape academia.

15 posted on 02/15/2005 4:57:51 PM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

There is another thread on this. Someplace


16 posted on 02/15/2005 4:59:17 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think some of the bones are mine.


17 posted on 02/15/2005 5:06:20 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: Mr. Mojo

Ha! They found my knees..........


18 posted on 02/15/2005 5:07:48 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: Mr. Mojo

More info here as well as photos:

http://www.kgs.ku.edu/General/News/2005/kanorado.html#PHOT


19 posted on 02/15/2005 5:09:16 PM PST by elli1
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To: Mr. Mojo

Buried by 12,001 year old dog. That's old in dog-years.


20 posted on 02/15/2005 5:16:43 PM PST by aroostook war
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