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STATE OF THE UNION -- 2005 [Live Thread]
2/2/05

Posted on 02/02/2005 3:43:44 PM PST by Timeout

The pre-spin: Bush will spend about 1/2 the speech on foreign policy, 1/2 on domestic, with heavy emphasis on Social Security reform. It's said he will provide a detailed tutorial on the SS system and its problems with a few details on his personal accounts proposal.

Laura's guests are said to be an Afghan voter and an Iraqi voter (too bad there's no Ukrainian wearing an orange hat!).

Should we start a drinking game on how many times the pool camera swings to Hillary? Hmmm. Probably not...it would likely hamper out typing ability.

Word on the blogs has it that the closing part of the speech is a hum-dinger. Set your VCR's.

Report here on outrageous MediaCrat spin before AND after the SOTU. Pictures and screen caps welcome.


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To: Joe Hadenuf
"Seems you missed the point here, and the speech.

No, Joe. I think you speak for people, who you don't *represent*. I NEVER want to be included in your *our*.

You live in a different universe.

4,421 posted on 02/02/2005 10:07:23 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Shortstop7

Great idea! Ron, jr is Nancy's child and she adores him obviously..I would never get between a mother and her cub.

I just hate the fact he is only allowed on TV because he is who he is and is so overtly anti Bush. I hate it because I honor his father.


4,422 posted on 02/02/2005 10:09:24 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

listen......there were two women who were kind of insulting her and after a couple of posts I simply asked them why they were still posting on her after a week.......that is all......and her history is very pro Republican and conservative.....just last week Larry Kudlow and another Repub were talking about how they disagreed with her comments but how wonderful and supportive she has been over the years and espeically after 9/11.....in my life I would like to be judged on my whole life then on the stupid small things that occured in it


4,423 posted on 02/02/2005 10:09:54 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: jennyjenny

LOL>......that she does!


4,424 posted on 02/02/2005 10:11:08 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: All
From the link at post #4385 above:

David Frum: Bush at his Best [SOU Reaction]

It’s too often assumed that flowery rhetoric is powerful rhetoric. The reverse is more like it. A determined message delivered in clear, unmistakable words packs more punch than a namby-pamby message wrapped in fine phrases.

4,425 posted on 02/02/2005 10:11:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Diverdogz
He just hugged me and said: ‘You’ve done your job, mom. Now it’s my turn to protect you.’”

That's where I almost lost it. I was in the car, listening to ABC Radio. The news guy came on after the speech and said that the sustained applause was when Sgt. Norwood's mom stood up to acknowledge the President, and the Iraqi woman got up and hugged her, and they were both crying. THEN I lost it.

4,426 posted on 02/02/2005 10:11:51 PM PST by My2Cents ("I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: LUV W
Oh my. I'm reading the Washington Post article by Michael A. Fletcher and Peter Baker.

See if you spot what's wrong with THIS paragraph:

The emotional highpoint of last night's event came near the end when Bush introduced the parents of a U.S. Marine from Texas, Sgt. Byron Norwood, who was killed in the assault on Fallujah, Iraq. As Norwood's mother tearfully hugged another woman in the gallery, the assembled senators and representatives responded with a sustained ovation, and Bush's face appeared creased with emotion.
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Did you catch it?

(WHO did she hug?)

4,427 posted on 02/02/2005 10:12:06 PM PST by Timeout (Dems have been saying no for 10 years. Now they can SCREAM it.)
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To: NorCalRepub

There will always be those on FR who come to the defense of those "loyal republican...LOL" who seek to destroy this president. I've been on this board for a long time, and I can remember a woman who was once here, who used to defend every "republican" who spoke up against this president. She defended them all. One particular night I got into with her about Bill Krystol who she was defending.


4,428 posted on 02/02/2005 10:14:43 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: No Blue States

Agreed. Michael is more like Ronald Reagan than Ronnie Jr. is. Both of Ron and Nancy's children are off-center. Both of Ron and Jane Wyman's children turned out better.


4,429 posted on 02/02/2005 10:15:01 PM PST by Swede Girl
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To: lawgirl
What did she give her?

Maybe this has been answered (I'm still working my way through the thread), but Mrs. Norwood gave the Iraqi woman her son's dogtags.

4,430 posted on 02/02/2005 10:15:05 PM PST by My2Cents ("I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: MEG33
Agreed. I honor his father also....that's what made me think it would be a great thing to bring Laura and Nancy together. Plus, it would drive the Dims nuts....... How can they possibly trash that?
4,431 posted on 02/02/2005 10:15:10 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: NorCalRepub
Her behaviour over the long haul is a hell of alot more positive and consistent than a couple of poorly thought out episodes

Maybe she just did like we all do a lot of the time--her thoughts just didn't make it to the keyboard like they were in her head! I would give her the benefit of the doubt unless she continues to go off on the Prez! Then......!!!!!!

4,432 posted on 02/02/2005 10:15:31 PM PST by luvie ("THE ROAD OF PROVIDENCE IS UNEVEN AND UNPREDICTABLE-YET WE KNOW...IT LEADS TO FREEDOM!"GWB 2-2-05)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Read way back. I was referring to the Iraqi people as a whole, all but standing on the side lines while we fought their fight.

Yes, way back. That was then, this is now;

72% of the population came off the sidelines and participated by voting in the election. 100,000 security forces are now training. 272 representatives have now been elected.

They are all risking their lives for their new found freedom. They are all fighting their fight.

4,433 posted on 02/02/2005 10:17:19 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks :)

My baby turned eight today & we were out to dinner..her choice.


4,434 posted on 02/02/2005 10:18:34 PM PST by lainie
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To: Timeout
Yeah, I got that--and Bush's face appeared to be creased with emotion! APPEARED!!!! These people wouldn't know genuine emotion if it slapped them--which I would be glad to oblige!
4,435 posted on 02/02/2005 10:18:51 PM PST by luvie ("THE ROAD OF PROVIDENCE IS UNEVEN AND UNPREDICTABLE-YET WE KNOW...IT LEADS TO FREEDOM!"GWB 2-2-05)
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To: FreeReign; Joe Hadenuf
This was posted on The Corner at NRO. It's directly responsive to your discussion:
A friend who was watching the SOTU with an Iraqi friend writes during e-mail correspondence to me tonight:
He's been ecstatic for days now. it's hard to explain what life is like for iraqis right now. i think it's full of overwhelmingly emotional moments like that one [the hug]. he told me of some of his aunt who lives in a very bad (read: terrorist-infested) area of Baghdad. she is a widow (and a Sunni)- her husband was killed by Saddam. All night the imam at the mosque was broadcasting not to vote, how it is against islam to vote. in the morning she got up and went to her neighbor's house and told her friend she was going to vote. These two women left together. When they came back with their blue fingers they could see their neighbors peeking out from behind curtains. Soon after, people started streaming out of their houses and soon everyone from their neighborhood went off to vote.

he told me also how iraqis who before had been terrified of being identified as pro-American and therefore hadn't so much as looked up when passing soldiers on the street were suddenly handing out candies to them. they now get why we're there. i don't think they believed it before. so yes- the hug was amazing- and an important symbol of what is happening.


4,436 posted on 02/02/2005 10:19:21 PM PST by Timeout (Dems have been saying no for 10 years. Now they can SCREAM it.)
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To: Petronski

This guy just grows the longer he's in office. Amazing.


4,437 posted on 02/02/2005 10:19:44 PM PST by My2Cents ("I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: lawgirl
ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world

including in Washington

4,438 posted on 02/02/2005 10:20:00 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: NorCalRepub

Are we supposed to hold hands now?

Good grief.


4,439 posted on 02/02/2005 10:20:15 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: A Citizen Reporter

haha.....ya I wonder who these people are.....again you are not getting it.....I came to defense of not judging her for those comments but to look at her whole life in politics. And you are right, there are many here that only go with the party line........that is not me....I've criticized the Pres over immigration and his over spending...I've sided with McCain (who many don't like here) when I thought he was right. In fact, the thing I hate next to the liberal haters and name callers are those on here that do exactly the same thing against anyone that is not a the conservative they think they should be......calling everyone RINO's or traitors.........that crap is narrow minded intolerance and I hate that as much as the DUmmies


4,440 posted on 02/02/2005 10:20:28 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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