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Science in the Light of Faith: A Valuable Perspective
BreakPoint with Charles Colson ^ | Charles Colson

Posted on 03/08/2004 1:33:06 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

One subject I enjoy reading about is the intelligent design movement and its arguments against natural origins. And believe me, there's a lot to read. Recent years have seen an explosion of books, articles, and websites on the subject of intelligent design. Scientists, philosophers, and theologians have all contributed valuable insights to the debate.

But I think I can safely say that, with all of this reading, I've never read a book by an eminent scientist and intelligent design advocate that ended with a presentation of the Gospel -- never, that is, until now.

Henry F. Schaefer's book SCIENCE AND CHRISTIANITY: CONFLICT OR COHERENCE? does exactly that. As his book's title indicates, Schaefer, a five-time nominee for the Nobel Prize, has spent a lot of time studying and teaching about the relationship between science and faith. So his writing is clear and compelling not just on intelligent design, but also on a whole range of other issues that are of interest to both people of faith and people of science. But I think his treatment of the intelligent design issue is one of the best parts of the book, because it shows Schaefer meeting nonbelieving scientists on their own ground and using their own observations to undermine their arguments.

Schaefer quotes the brilliant scientist and agnostic Stephen Hawking, who wrote that a good theory "must accurately describe a large class of observations" and "must make definite predictions about the results of future observations." While acknowledging the strengths of the "standard evolutionary model" in the first area, Schaefer points out that it has serious weaknesses in the second area. He writes, "Over the past 150 years evolutionary theorists have made countless predictions about fossil specimens to be observed in the future. Unfortunately for these seers, many new fossils have been discovered, but the interesting ones almost always seem to be contrary to the 'best' predictions." Schaefer then contrasts the theory of evolution with other theories, such as the atomic theory and the theory of gravity, which are able to make precise predictions of future events, such as when Halley's Comet would appear -- predictions, Schaefer says, that turned out to be true in his lifetime.

So, contrary to what many believe, the theory of intelligent design isn't just something people believe because the Bible tells them so. It's something we believe because it makes sense and describes the real world far better than the alternative theory.

As passages like this demonstrate, Schaefer's book is a wonderful resource for the high school or college student interested in studying science. In fact, it's ideal for parents to go through with their high school or college-age kids. Schaefer's own story of coming to faith in Christ, his descriptions of many other prominent scientists who are Christians, and his desire to share his faith will be an encouragement to kids who are wondering if their love of science is compatible with their commitment to God. And his exploration of issues like intelligent design will not only demonstrate to them how God has manifested Himself through nature, but also provide them with an excellent example of how their own gifts can be used for God's glory.


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1 posted on 03/08/2004 1:33:06 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: agenda_express; BA63; banjo joe; Believer 1; billbears; Blood of Tyrants; ChewedGum; ...
BreakPoint/Chuck Colson Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my BreakPoint Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

2 posted on 03/08/2004 1:34:09 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
bump...
3 posted on 03/08/2004 1:34:48 PM PST by danneskjold
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To: Mr. Silverback
Schaefer quotes the brilliant scientist and agnostic Stephen Hawking

The Vatican finds him a good enough Catholic to invite him to conferences of Roman Catholic Scientists.

Does Schaefer know something the Pope doesn't, or is this the edge of one of those fundamentalist protestant 'Catholics are not really Christians' viewpoints?

So9

4 posted on 03/08/2004 1:40:57 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the 9
Stephen Hawking's agnosticism is self-documented. You can draw your own conclusions about the Pope's knowledge or motives, but there are ample alternatives that don't require delving into Catholic-baiting. For example, the Pope could be as concerned about this one man's soul as he would of any other lapsed Catholic, and inclusion is one way of reaching out to him in the spirit of Galatians 6:1.
5 posted on 03/08/2004 1:51:52 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Mr. Silverback
Yawn.....

Those who haven't figured it out by now never will....

6 posted on 03/08/2004 1:53:11 PM PST by narby (Who would Osama vote for???)
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To: Servant of the 9
What conferences of Roman Catholic Scientists are you referencing?
7 posted on 03/08/2004 1:55:06 PM PST by Varda
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To: PatrickHenry
Ah-Ten-shun!
8 posted on 03/08/2004 1:57:26 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: Mr. Silverback
Recent years have seen an explosion of books, articles, and websites on the subject of intelligent design.

Apparently, "Explosion" is a relative term.
9 posted on 03/08/2004 1:58:59 PM PST by whattajoke
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PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]
10 posted on 03/08/2004 2:00:38 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
From the article: "He writes, 'Over the past 150 years evolutionary theorists have made countless predictions about fossil specimens to be observed in the future. Unfortunately for these seers, many new fossils have been discovered, but the interesting ones almost always seem to be contrary to the 'best' predictions.'

I can't seem to find any webcites that provide an actual list of the "interesting" fossils that Mr. Schaefer says "almost always seem to be contrary to the 'best' predictions." Nor can I find any information about how these fossils "seem to be contrary."

Can you help out?
11 posted on 03/08/2004 2:04:44 PM PST by atlaw
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To: Mr. Silverback
It's something we believe because it makes sense and describes the real world far better than the alternative theory.

Perhaps someday Mr Colson will be so kind as to post some predictions made by Intelligent Design. Perhaps someday Mr Colson will post any prediction made by Intelligent Design. Perhaps Mr colson will explain how properties of the designer are reflected in the design. Lastly perhaps Mr Colson will explain how Intelligent Design explains shared errors.

12 posted on 03/08/2004 2:07:43 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Mr. Silverback
So, contrary to what many believe, the theory of intelligent design isn't just something people believe because the Bible tells them so. It's something we believe because it makes sense and describes the real world far better than the alternative theory.

I guess Colson proves the old adage, "once a liar, always a liar." ID is NOT even close to being a theory, and there are no "alternative theories." There are "alternative ideas" however; everything from hundreds of religionist creation myths to that crack addicts ideas about pink elephants creating the earth.

This article is ridiculous.
13 posted on 03/08/2004 2:08:37 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: Doctor Stochastic
From the article:
Recent years have seen an explosion of books, articles, and websites on the subject of intelligent design.

Yes. There is also an "explosion" of books, articles, etc. on subjects such as crop circles, pyramid power, ancient astronauts, psychic phenomena, spoon-bending, UFO abductions, astrology, and many other worthy "science" topics. But not in serious scientific literature.

14 posted on 03/08/2004 2:13:56 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist.)
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To: Servant of the 9
***one of those fundamentalist protestant 'Catholics are not really Christians' viewpoints?***

Any Catholic/Protestant/Orthodox/Whatever who hasn't:

1. repented of their sins,
2. turned their lives over to Jesus as their Lord and,
3. been miraculously changed in their heart by the Spirit of God

...isn't really a Christian.

That is the truth with is written all over the New Testament.
15 posted on 03/08/2004 2:14:09 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the ping!
17 posted on 03/08/2004 2:22:33 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Silas Hardacre
In any case, Hawking is a man who expects to find a cause for every result.

I don't think so. Causality breaks down at the quantum level. Hawking is clear on his agreement with this in his books. If he is agnostic, it may be a simple extension of physics into theology. Some things are inherently unknowable.

So9

18 posted on 03/08/2004 2:23:58 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Even the theory of evolution is in constant evolution!
19 posted on 03/08/2004 2:58:56 PM PST by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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